Shay Given woud be the only player with any kind of chance of making the squad, never mind the starting team.
Darren Fletcher at left back? Are you serious?
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Shay Given woud be the only player with any kind of chance of making the squad, never mind the starting team.
Darren Fletcher at left back? Are you serious?
I agree with your points re Moloney, Fletcher, Caldwell and Mcgeady. However, Given as a maybe? Come off it. None of the other keepers alligned to the five national teams come close to him.
In addition, Robbie Keane would at least make the bench. There is no Scottish,or Northern Irish striker ahead of him...and the only English strikers better are Rooney and Owen...though Defoe wouldn't be far behind. As for Bellamy, he'd make my squad
---------Given
----Dunne Ferdinand Terry
Fletcher Carrick Lampard McGeady
---------Gerrard
----------------Rooney
On an historical note, something similar to a "Lions" side was picked in 1973 to commemorate the accession of the UK, ROI and Denmark ("The Three") into the Common Market ("The Six").
The manager of "The Three" (Sir Alf Ramsey) will doubtless have been under pressure to make sure his selection was truly representative of all five international teams he could select from, yet he was always very much his own man (including hating the Scots!)
I'd guess Jennings, Giles and Lorimer fully justified their selection, but I'm surprised at (Scot) Colin Stein getting a look in, despite his goal. Don't know enough about Jensen (and Sub. Olson) to comment. No Taffs, mind.
As for Helmut Schon's "Six", with the exception of the Belgian keeper (Piot), the Frenchman Beretta, and the Luxembourger Pilot (did he actually play?), that was a hell of a team.
The predominance of Dutch and Germans at the expense of French and Italians shows where the power lay in Europe in the mid 70's (unless the best Italians weren't available/interested).
03/01/1973, London (England), Wembley, 36500
NEW ECM 2 (Henning Jensen 47', Colin Stein 69')
OLD ECM 0
New ECM: Pat Jennings [Northern Ireland], Peter Storey [England], Emlyn Hughes [England], Colin Bell [England] (John Steen Olsen [Denmark] 74'),
Norman Hunter [England], Bobby Moore [England], Peter Lorimer [Scotland], Johnny Giles [Ireland], Colin Stein [Scotland], Bobby Charlton [England], Henning Jensen [Denmark] (Alan Ball [England] 60').
Old ECM: Christian Piot [Belgium] (Dino Zoff [Italy] 46'), Marius Trésor [France] (Wim Suurbier [Netherlands] 46'), Franz Beckenbauer [West Germany] (Ruud Krol [Netherlands] 46'), Horst Blankenburg [West Germany], Berti Vogts [West Germany], Wim van Hanegem [Netherlands] (Herbert Wimmer [West Germany] 46'), Günter Netzer [West Germany] [c], Johan Neeskens [Netherlands], Jürgen Grabowski [West Germany], Gerd Müller [West Germany], Georges Bereta [France].
Referee: Norman Burtenshaw (England).
Coaches: New ECM: Sir Alf Ramsey (England).
Old ECM: Helmut Schön (West Germany).
Note: It is also reported that Louis Pilot [Luxembourg] played instead of Herbert Wimmer [West Germany].
http://www.cantab.net/users/nfm24/football/1973oth.html
Given
Finnan Carragher Ferdinand Cole
Walcott Scholes Gerrard Giggs
Rooney Doyle
Think a Doyle Rooney partnership would work much better than Keane Rooney - see Heskey Rooney. I think Doyle is a better all round player than Heskey
---------------------Given-------------------------
Hutton-------Terry------------Dunne----------Bridge
-------------------Hargreaves----------------------
-----Gerrard-------------------------McGeady------
------------Bellamy-----------Rooney---------------
----------------------Keane------------------------
Possibly the most attacking formation known to man. Especially with those full backs. Poor Hargreaves is gonna have to get through an amount of work covering for those fellas ahead of him when he gets back from Colorado!!!:o
Given (no question)
Finnan, Ferdinand, Terry, Cole
Ireland, Gerrard, Carrick, Barry
Rooney, Agbonlahor
Subs
James
Bridge
Carragher
Scholes
Giggs
Keane
Doyle
have not really seen s,ireland in last 5/6 games but before that was impressed.
Given is dead cert imo fantastic goalkeeper
Chris Iwelumo is Scottish, not Welsh. And he's crap. Also to make this authentic we should only pick players who actually play internationals, so no Almunia or Carragher or Giggs, etc.
My team:
Given
Bale
Ferdinand
Terry
G Johnson
A Young
Gerrard
D Fletcher
Beckham
Bellamy
Heskey
On current form, all those guys are well worth their place, despite some of them not having great reputations per se. OK, so Bale's having a bad season, but the alternative's Ashley Cole and there's no way I'm giving that greedy ******* a place :D
It is tough to pick:
Given
Hutton Dunne Ferdinand Ashley Cole
Gerrard Barry Carrick Duff
Rooney Doyle
Subs:
Keane
Terry
Owen
Steven Reid
McGeady
Joe Cole
Evans
I can only hope that this guy was taking the mick, it´s the only way to explain that selection apart from certified insanity. However, it´s followed closely by the (many) people who think Dunne would make the starting eleven, the few who consider Aiden Mc Geady a better player than Ryan Giggs, and the guys who wouldn´t pick Ashley Cole because they don´t like him. Good craic though, and a genuine insight into how much some people on this forum actually know about football!!! ;)
Here´s mine anyway, so it can be criticised...
Given
Brown, Terry, Ferdinand, Cole
Gerrard, Barry, Lampard, Giggs
Rooney, Heskey
I opted for eleven players rather than ten Rambler14 ;)
pathetic thread!
Only considering current internationals:
1 Given G
2 Brown RB
3 A. Cole LB
4 Terry CB
5 FerdinandCB
6 Carrick CM
7 Gerrard RM
8 Lampard CM
9 Doyle CF
10 Rooney CF
11 J. Cole LM
12 James
13 O'Shea
14 Barry
15 McGeady
16 Keane
17 Heskey
---------Given
----Dunne Ferdinand Terry
Fletcher Carrick Lampard McGeady
-- Gerrard------Giggs
---------Rooney