Why are Drogheda United being looked after?

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Originally Posted by cheech

You will end up been hated with that attitude.

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You seem to be referring to this as something that could happen in the future. The anti-Drogs bile on this forum has been there ever since we dared to win a trophy.
Even the title of this thread says it. A pop at Drogs not the FAI not being even handed. Why is the thread not about Cobh being discriminated? Or about Cork signing players when they haven't paid thier back pay. Or about Fingal mysteriously going from nothing to full time. Or Dundalk getting a huge grant to do their pitch. Or Finn Harps struggling badly and still ploughing on about a new stadium. Or Pats sacking Johnny Mac to go part time then staying full time. Or Waterford taking Dundalk's place in the premier a few years ago. Etc etc

BTW - its a joke that Cobh were not helped out

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Originally Posted by Celdrog

BTW - its a joke that Cobh were not helped out

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They should prove that they have tried to help themselves before being helped out. In Drogheda the supporters proved the support base is there to give a reason for helping a club? Is it in Cobh?


Have the cobh supporters mobilsed to help their club and the FAI being asked to buy the ground as a last resort?

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Originally Posted by Celdrog

Or about Cork signing players when they haven't paid thier back pay. Or about Fingal mysteriously going from nothing to full time. Or Dundalk getting a huge grant to do their pitch. Or Finn Harps struggling badly and still ploughing on about a new stadium. Or Pats sacking Johnny Mac to go part time then staying full time. Or Waterford taking Dundalk's place in the premier a few years ago. Etc etc

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sshhhhh - not suppose to talk about these

The reasons given to Cobh by the FAI as to why they couldn't help us are the exact things the FAI are doing to help Drogheda thats why people are complaining and incensed by what going on and there is no Drogs bias, it's really anger toward the FAI for their double standards!

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Originally Posted by Celdrog

Or Finn Harps struggling badly and still ploughing on about a new stadium.

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Yes, damn those clubs with realistic development plans that don't depend on 5000 houses being built.

Absolute disgrace.

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Originally Posted by rambler14

Justice for Ramblers!:

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/cobhramblers/

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some big hitters have signed tha one already i see

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Originally Posted by SMorgan

The topic is not Drogheda United. Its the FAI's uneven and unfair dealings with one club. LOI fans should be given an explanation as to what exactly is going on.

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Oh dear. You've outdone yourself here. How about reading your own posts. When people don't agree, you crawl back into your (biscuit) tin. Im dissapointed in you, i expected more.

Yes the cobh issue is wrong but this is a typical Irish mentality. See someone getting help and spite them for it. Drogheda United has nothing to do with Cobh. Work on your own issues lads without pulling other clubs into the mess to prove your point. Help being given to the club should not be the cue for a mass amount of abuse towards said club. And celdrog....ssssshhhh!

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Originally Posted by SeanDrog

The FAI bought Utd park in the early 80's. So continue to make up things by all means about vat and bar etc etc it still wont make the FAI buy your ground to bail you out.

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Most certainly was not early 80's! For a non indexed linked amount i believe was £30k(i shall stand corrected on the figure) which Drogheda could purchase back at a future date. The fact that the deal wasnt index linked is what made Drogheda an 'attractive' investment as they could purchase back their asset for peanuts etc. Was a super fair deal even at the time (early '90s)
It does seem that people are aiming their frustration at Drogheda rather than the FAI and their lack of even handedness, dont believe that it is personal just simply that Drogheda currently represent what is wrong with the administration of the league. Clubs do need to show sustainability and this is not having the governing body stepping in buying your ground to bail you out, only for again to get into debt pay a fraction of what you owe for the governing body to step in and do the remedial work to preserve an undeserved place in the Premier Division, all while other clubs need help too. All or nothing should be the policy.

Old Boys Network.

Vincent Hoey is in it and friends with Delaney Snr for years.

Cobh don't have anyone 'connected' unfortunately for them.

It is the way football has always worked on this island. North and south.

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Originally Posted by cheech

Old Boys Network.

Vincent Hoey is in it and friends with Delaney Snr for years.

Cobh don't have anyone 'connected' unfortunately for them.

It is the way football has always worked on this island. North and south.

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Isn't Michael Cody, a Cobh Ramblers man, not one of the ten-men on the FAI Board of Management - I think he's the FAI Secretary.

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Originally Posted by harps1954

Isn't Michael Cody, a Cobh Ramblers man, not one of the ten-men on the FAI Board of Management - I think he's the FAI Secretary.

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What does he do on the Cobh management committee?

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Originally Posted by cheech

What does he do on the Cobh management committee?

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That's up to Cobh Ramblers as to what involvement he has on their committee. If Cobh don't like it, they should elect someone else to represent them at FAI level and maybe they could work their way up to the level Michael Cody is now at. However, it is because of Cobh Ramblers that he has a seat at the FAI top table. He's Cobh's man within the FAI and he has worked his way up to being FAI Secretary.

At the end of the day, if he's a Cobh Ramblers man, he should be able to at least talk to the "right people" on behalf of your club.

If Cobh feel they are so hard done by, they should be using every connection they have to make their feelings know to the FAI. Michael Cody classes himself as a Cobh Ramblers man.

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Originally Posted by cheech

What does he do on the Cobh management committee?

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about the same as hoey and the drogheda comittee.

United pk was bought by the FAI almost 20 years ago for 30k (a different era)
DUFC invested big and won big (no financial aid from FAI)
DUFC fought their way out of examinership (no financial aid from FAI)
FAI may or may not spend E25k to improve their own ground, Is this the first time the FAI have payed for ground improvements?

It amuses me that DUFC have become the whipping boy for disgruntled LoI fans.

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Originally Posted by mr.untitled

about the same as hoey and the drogheda comittee.

United pk was bought by the FAI almost 20 years ago for 30k (a different era)
DUFC invested big and won big (no financial aid from FAI)
DUFC fought their way out of examinership (no financial aid from FAI)
FAI may or may not spend E25k to improve their own ground, Is this the first time the FAI have payed for ground improvements?

It amuses me that DUFC have become the whipping boy for disgruntled LoI fans.

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Well it takes the focus, conspiracy theories, delusional ranting and paranoia off Bohs - which is a good thing

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Originally Posted by SeanDrog

The FAI bought Utd park in the early 80's. So continue to make up things by all means about vat and bar etc etc it still wont make the FAI buy your ground to bail you out.

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Originally Posted by Nesta99

Most certainly was not early 80's! For a non indexed linked amount i believe was £30k(i shall stand corrected on the figure) which Drogheda could purchase back at a future date. The fact that the deal wasnt index linked is what made Drogheda an 'attractive' investment as they could purchase back their asset for peanuts etc. Was a super fair deal even at the time (early '90s)

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Originally Posted by mr.untitled

United pk was bought by the FAI almost 20 years ago for 30k (a different era)

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No made up stories SeanDrog! Be careful before you dismiss someones post as fabrication;) I bear Drogheda no ill will just consistency from the powers that be. Cobhs beef is that the FAI set precedence by purchasing grounds they didnt want or need. (and i have nothing to do with Cobh either)

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Originally Posted by mr.untitled

DUFC fought their way out of examinership (no financial aid from FAI)

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I thought they gave you a donation? That's a genuine question btw.

Drogheda aren't really the issue here anyway, of course they're going to accept an offer from the FAI to upgrade their ground and guarantee themselves a Premier licence.

The issue is that the FAI are on one hand telling Cobh that they can 'do nothing which helps or hinders a club in the licencing process' while on the other hand are clearly providing DUFC with help in their licencing process.

There's also the whole issue that in general, financial insanity, although it hurts the league, the creditors and the other clubs, does not seem to have any real consequences for some clubs, yet other far more minor offenders get transfer embargoes, vetoed budgets and whatever. It's a question of whether the FAI are serious about promoting/enforcing a culture of financial competence and proper planning. Currently the answer seems to be the same as always- they'll start doing it soon.

I could see your argument if the FAI didnt offer ramblers 25k to help their ground meet licencing standards or if the FAI bought united park for 500K last week. Your not arguing like with like here.
AFAIK the FAI offered us great assistance during the examinersship period but they didnt financially bail us out.

The 'typical FAI' and 'sher what would you expect' rhetoric on this site is unreal sometimes.

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Originally Posted by Mr A

There's also the whole issue that in general, financial insanity, although it hurts the league, the creditors and the other clubs, does not seem to have any real consequences for some clubs, yet other far more minor offenders get transfer embargoes, vetoed budgets and whatever. It's a question of whether the FAI are serious about promoting/enforcing a culture of financial competence and proper planning. Currently the answer seems to be the same as always- they'll start doing it soon.

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because examinership is a walk in the park?

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Originally Posted by mr.untitled

I could see your argument if the FAI didnt offer ramblers 25k to help their ground meet licencing standards or if the FAI bought united park for 500K last week. Your not arguing like with like here.

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I don't think you can dismiss the issue because the numbers aren't exactly the same. £30k twenty years ago is probably worth E100k now, so it's a significant sum of money.

But the issue is that the FAI clearly stated that they didn't buy St Colman's Park because they couldn't be seen to be helping Cobh with their licence, while they are putting seats into Drogheda's ground because they have to help clubs with their licences. Which doesn't make sense. It's either one or the other, not pick and choose as you want.