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The FAI had a hefty price increase on moving to Croker which they won't be going back on so they'll make more money in the new Lansdowne than they did in the old stadium too.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
No chance, the place wouldn't have been even half full for the Poland game without away fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Torn-Ado
Tickets were already sold though, so it made no difference to the FAI coffersQuote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
They were sold because they were grouped with the previous qualifier. If the qualifier is in 50,000 capacity Lansdowne, they'll never sell the other 22,000+ tickets to fill Croker.Quote:
Originally Posted by BaZmO*
I know, that's what I said in my previous post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
Good financial business by the FAI IMO and i have no complaints because I try to go to all the home games anyways.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
If friendlies were sold on their own, i think for the vast majority they would be lucky to get more than 35k. I remember plenty of friendlies at LR in recent times against decent opposition with crowds just around the 30k mark.
they may make more in the new stadium than the old but both the irfu and fai have done very well from the move to cp. if my memory is right in the 1st year of rugby in cp the irfu made its first profit in years. the fai too effectively increased its capacity for competitive matches from 34k to 70k+ which equates to about an additional €2m in additional gate receipts alone. if cp is available for a match like holland 01 id say its a pretty sure bet it will be played in cpQuote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
A motion has all ready been passed at the Clare County Convention. A vote will be taken at congress in april to make the exsisting arrangement permanent.Quote:
Originally Posted by janeymac
I would hope the FAI would not move such a game.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
The atmosphere at such a game would not be the same at Croke Park.
I think once Lansdowne is ready it will become a permanent home and thus a real home venue.
Good riddance if you ask me. Even though I live nearbye I won't be sorry if I never had to watch a footie game in there again.
agree but with premium seat sales for the new stadium very slow the fai will look to cash in anyway they can. agree 100% about the atmosphereQuote:
Originally Posted by gspain
False economy though if we fail to qualify.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
Most international stadiums have running tracks around them. No one complains about been miles from the action at these venues. I can gaurentee you if we are still in with a shout next october when the italians come to town there will be no lack of athmosphere in croker.
I have been going to both venues for many years and landsdowne road is no different to croke park and only on a handful of occassions has the crowd been really vocal in landsdowne yet we are 10 times more vocal at away games.
Always will be this way......it's the hard core fans that travel at great expense and effort, and are usually hugely outnumbered (with the exception of Paris!!) so they put the passionate effort into vocally supporting the team.........usually assisted by 2 or 3 days drinking which helps to wipe out any inhibition:)Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperDub
IF, and I stress a massive if, this was a viable deal on the table there would have to be serious changes to existing contracts.
Issues such as the ban on promoting the LOI etc on the big screens, removal of flags may seem trivial, but they are symptomatic of the mindset.
The quicker we are out of there the better.
Brehony mentioned it in the indo alright about opening croker.Hes obsessed with stirring it and the fianances of the GAA.No point using Croker,poor atmosphere and would only fill for maybe 2 games of the qualifiers,epecially if we are out of the running mid way through a group.
Most don't actually. Even those that do you seem closer to the action.Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperDub
The atmosphere has been rubbish at every football match in Croke Park except maybe when Bohs played there 100 years back. The Poles did put on a show and fair play to them but the atmosphere was still poor. It hasn't been a patch on Lansdowne.
Ditto for rugby with the exception of the england game
It may well be for GAA but it is a GAA stadium and the crowd is on top of the pitch there.
In order to make Croke Park financially attractive to the FAI and IRFU following Lansdowne Road completion, they would need to be fairly sure of selling the extra 20k seats (remember the seats mean Croker's capacity is reduced) and the rent would need to be considerably less than it is at the minute.
Can't see it happening. Nor would I want to.
But I'm enjoying the Gah-heads coming over all benevolent now there's a recession.
Croke Park stopped us having to play abroad but like Maribor and GSpain I can't wait to get back to Lansdowne.
That doesn't make a lot a sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
There is no indication that previous opponents of opening up Croker are now advocating more openness.
Actually, in a poll conducted by the GPA of it's members, some 95% wanted Croker to be opened up, (at the very least) while Lansdowne was being renovated. That was long before the word recession entered the common vocabularily.
It is common knowledge that there would be a later debate on opening up by those in the GAA who want to dump rule 42.
The debate is being promoted by people who want to ditch rule 42.
The argument for Croker though has little economic merit once new Lansdowne is opened.
There is another picture, a few of the county boards that might well have voted against relaxing the rule 42 but have decided (so reluctantly) to accept their share of the rent revenues might well be more open to supporting moves to rent out facilities/or renovate facilities up to a standard for renting out.
Well a few stadiums i have been to in the last few years have running tracks around them for example Tehran, Yokahama, Nigata, Paris, Stuttgart, Tbilisi, Tirana, They are a few that come to mind also bari and sofia have them too.Quote:
Originally Posted by gspain
QUOTE=gspain;1084215]The atmosphere has been rubbish at every football match in Croke Park except maybe when Bohs played there 100 years back. The Poles did put on a show and fair play to them but the atmosphere was still poor. It hasn't been a patch on Lansdowne. ..[/QUOTE]
Yes and why is there a lack of atmosphere because the fans cant be bothered to get behind the team as you say the poles made an effort, so there is no reason why we cant. We certainly make ourselves heard at away games.
Hopefully the proposed singing section in the davin stand will make a difference and maybe we might get a few new songs to sing as the songs we have are tired and outdated.
Comprehensively put to bed in today's IT.
We're on our way........