It works both ways like when loads of NI people cross the border for their fuel and stuff.
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It works both ways like when loads of NI people cross the border for their fuel and stuff.
What is patriotism? Is it as Kennedy said ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country? What does that mean? Does it mean making sacrifices for all the people or does it mean doing so for what Madison called "The Wealth of the nation?
So do the ordinary joes make sacrifices for the business class, the select few who pull the strings, or do they try and live as best they can and maybe organise to fight back while they're at it?Quote:
Originally Posted by James Madison
Given the majority of the money is going to large British multiples wherever you shop, the only difference is who gets the tax. I can't say I lose too much sleep at night about the money I'm keeping from the Government to fritter away on extra layers of management in the HSE.
As for the jobs argument, retail jobs are invariably part-time, low hours & aimed at students & mothers. No big loss IMO.
Whatever the topic of the argument, patriotism tends to come out when every other point has been rubbished.
patriotism has nothing to do with the state, unlike revenue, gdp etc.
I'm mildly amused that there are people who will kill for the right to live here, but if it's cheaper to shop from the auld enemy...
Patriotism is overrated.
Wrong. Patriotism has everything to do with the state, patriotism being a feeling of loyalty to ones state. Whereas nationalism is loyalty to ones nation. A subtle but important difference..
I shop in Newry all the time. I consider Newry to be a part of Ireland though and the people there to belong to the same nation as me..
Is shopping in Newry unpatriotic in terms of the state I live in? Yes. Is shopping in Newry anti-nationalist in terms of the nation which I belong to? No, it is not.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...910422683.htmlQuote:
AA Roadwatch reported long tailbacks on roads into Newry and other Northern Border towns at the weekend as shoppers from the Republic availed of cheaper prices on many items.
The normal journey time from Dublin to Newry doubled on Saturday to over three hours and the car parks of the main shopping centres in the town were filled to capacity.
Some political and business leaders have called on shoppers in the Republic to show "patriotism" and shop locally. Others have warned of significant job losses in the retail trade after Christmas due to the financial crisis and cross-Border shopping.
As others have said, if you're shopping in the large multiples it makes little difference. If you were shopping for the sustainability of the country you'd be skipping the supermarkets altogether in favour of local shops/ stalls.
Including the north in the National Development plan wasn't seen as unpatriotic was it?
Also, the types of tailbacks that Ringo highlights will do more to discourage it than any whinging will do.
On sunday morning I could see there were at least a dozen people waiting outside Sainsbury at 12.10 and the shutters wee half down, now bearing in mind that the store will only let them in at maybe 12.30 they were standing in the freezing cold to get into a supermarket :confused: Are they insane ?
On my last visit to Sainsbury I thought there must of been some sort of conventon on as every fat person with their fat kids from a 30 mile radius had decended on the store
we used to head to enniskillen too and get shopping when i was younger, but not that often in fairness and it was more to do with the sugar-free stuff we could get in boots which you couldn't get in ROIreland at the time.
superfrank, im not understanding much of what you are saying to be honest. Are you suggesting that in an airport in Ireland it would have 3 euro equivalent of £2?! Its strong when selling the stronger currency than buying it obviouslly, but I still cant imagine getting .66 + 2/3p for a euro in a shop.
Price gap: Newry benefits while Dundalk suffers
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/en...-14087405.html
I have a dentist appointment in Enniskillen tomorrow morning at 11.00 so am going to leave Monaghan at 8ish and get 2 hours shopping in Asda before my appointment and hopefully it will be that little bit quieter!
I love shopping.
Aw but it will be followed by 2 hours in the dentist chair and later that night some painkilling in the form of the cheap booze I have picked up in Asda! Works hand in hand!
working in strabane at the minute and the bypass is currently blocked with traffic entering/leaving asda, a lot of it heading from/for lifford. hope it clears by the time i finish at 6.
Its a 24 hour one though so wouldnt hold my breath Shanty!