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03/10/2008, 8:52 AM
gspain

Reds United were a breakaway from Shelbourne that went back again.

The Drumcondra in the Leinster league are a different club and were formed in the 1980's. Home Farm took Drumcondra's place in the league but there was a lot of bitterness afterwards from the Drums people as they believed agreeemtns weren't honoured.

Cork united started 48/9 season and went out in November I think.

Were St Francis known as Fingal St Francis - news to me? Can't remember that at all. I know they merged with Pats and broke away again.
03/10/2008, 8:59 AM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by gspain

I know they merged with Pats and broke away again.

They didn't merge. A merger was proposed and agreed in principle by some offcials on both sides. As the proposal was a couple of weeks before the start of the season St Francis decided to pull out fo the league while negotiations continued. Negotiations broke down and St Francis re-applied to the Leinster Senior League. They were never known as Fingal.

Home Farm were known as Home Farm Everton and Home Farm Fingal towards the end of their LOI tenure
03/10/2008, 9:18 AM
drummerboy

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Originally Posted by gspain

Reds United were a breakaway from Shelbourne that went back again.

The Drumcondra in the Leinster league are a different club and were formed in the 1980's. Home Farm took Drumcondra's place in the league but there was a lot of bitterness afterwards from the Drums people as they believed agreeemtns weren't honoured.

Cork united started 48/9 season and went out in November I think.

Were St Francis known as Fingal St Francis - news to me? Can't remember that at all. I know they merged with Pats and broke away again.

It is the same Drumcondra as the LoI club. The have the deeds to prove it.
03/10/2008, 11:22 AM
gspain

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Originally Posted by Dodge

They didn't merge. A merger was proposed and agreed in principle by some offcials on both sides. As the proposal was a couple of weeks before the start of the season St Francis decided to pull out fo the league while negotiations continued. Negotiations broke down and St Francis re-applied to the Leinster Senior League. They were never known as Fingal.

Home Farm were known as Home Farm Everton and Home Farm Fingal towards the end of their LOI tenure

I stand corrected.
03/10/2008, 11:29 AM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by gspain

I stand corrected.

If we ever meet, don't bring up this subject. I'll bore you to tears, and still probably smack you. :)
03/10/2008, 1:41 PM
Mr A

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Pioneers
I 1922-26 (4)

These guys sound interesting. I wonder if they disbanded after becoming drunk on their own success?
03/10/2008, 2:27 PM
gspain

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Originally Posted by drummerboy

It is the same Drumcondra as the LoI club. The have the deeds to prove it.

Do you have any more details on that? Did they get them from Home Farm? What are the "deeds" anyway?

The Drumcondra club as run by Sam Prole would have given the lease on Tolka to Home Farm and agreed some sort of merger to form Home Farm Drumcondra. The term Home Farm Drumcondra was only used for the remaining games of 72/3 season that HF took over. I'm pretty sur eit was dropped in the summer of 1973.
03/10/2008, 2:44 PM
Partizan

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Thurles Town played in the league. Hadn't heard about Sporting Club Thurles

Oh and Frank, are you sure about Bray Unknowns? Thought they were completely seperate. Waterford is seperate (they say otherwise). Galway was strictlya change of name

this should clear it up for you Dodge.

1982 - Waterford AFC changed name to Waterford United FC.
03/10/2008, 2:45 PM
Dodge

Wow, an internet post...

Hi partizan, welcome to the thread ;)
03/10/2008, 2:56 PM
Partizan

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Wow, an internet post...

Hi partizan, welcome to the thread ;)

cheers, anyway glad you're not a C/\wkie
03/10/2008, 3:04 PM
Dodge

Not as glad as I am...
03/10/2008, 3:42 PM
Longfordian

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Originally Posted by Mr A

So where are Frankfort from? And Brideville and Brooklyn for that matter?

Not 100% sure where Frankfort are from. Northside I think, maybe Baldoyle/Clontarf kind of direction, that's where the lad I know who plays with them is from anyway.
04/10/2008, 2:09 PM
HarpoJoyce

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Originally Posted by gspain

Reds United were a breakaway from Shelbourne that went back again.

The Drumcondra in the Leinster league are a different club and were formed in the 1980's. Home Farm took Drumcondra's place in the league but there was a lot of bitterness afterwards from the Drums people as they believed agreeemtns weren't honoured.

Cork united started 48/9 season and went out in November I think.

Were St Francis known as Fingal St Francis - news to me? Can't remember that at all. I know they merged with Pats and broke away again.

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Originally Posted by drummerboy

It is the same Drumcondra as the LoI club. The have the deeds to prove it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gspain

Do you have any more details on that? Did they get them from Home Farm? What are the "deeds" anyway?

The Drumcondra club as run by Sam Prole would have given the lease on Tolka to Home Farm and agreed some sort of merger to form Home Farm Drumcondra. The term Home Farm Drumcondra was only used for the remaining games of 72/3 season that HF took over. I'm pretty sur eit was dropped in the summer of 1973.

When I hear about displaced peoples and deeds, I first think of the Palestinians.

I'm not one to promote a Journalist. But maybe Brian De Salvo can add to the discussion with anecdotes. He gets a bit of mileage out of playing in Shelbourne - Drumcondra game in the early seventies.

Short meander on the Shels website.
http://www.shelbournefc.ie/features.php?id=52

He wrote an article 'Green Fingers' about the game for When Saturday Comes (General English Fanzine) when that publication asked on articles about the LoI (Bord Gais?) around 1991. I believe I have seen that article elsewhere since.
06/10/2008, 11:07 AM
A face

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Originally Posted by Partizan

cheers, anyway glad you're not a C/\wkie

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Not as glad as I am...

Corkies for the most part like lthat fact that we look down on the rest of the country, so everyone is glad ;)
06/10/2008, 11:13 AM
Dodge

hurrah for everyone
07/10/2008, 7:37 AM
Bluebeard

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Originally Posted by Dodge

hurrah for everyone

Everyone has won, and all are to have prizes.

Walking with Alice in a League of Ireland Wonderland....
14/10/2008, 12:51 PM
historynut

Frankfort & other ex league members

As per the Junior Football section in the Evening Herald last week, Frankfort founded in 1908 and celebrating their centenary this year.
For their one season as LOI member,1921/22, they played at Richmond Hill (?), Dublin.
Other grounds used by ex-league clubs as follows -
Anglesea Road - Dublin United & Shelbourne United 1922/23
Ballinlough, Cork - Fordsons 1924/24-1928/29
Beech Hill, Dublin - Dublin United 1921/22
Bellevue Lodge , Dublin - Olympia 1921/22
Carlisle Grounds Bray - Unknowns 1929/30-1942/43, Transport 1948/49-1950/51
Chalgrove Terrace Dublin - Brooklyn 1923/24-1924/25
Claremont Road Dublin - YMCA 1921/22
Dolphin Park, Dublin - Dolphin 1930/31-1931/32 & 1934/35-1936/37
Green Lanes Dublin - Brideville 1939/40
Greyhound Stadium Cork - Cork Bohemians 1932/33-1933/34
Harolds Cross Dublin - Brideville 1929/30, 1930/31 - 1931/32, Dolphin 1932/33-1933/34, Transport 1951/52-1961/62
Milltown - Shelbourne United 1923/24, Reds United 1935/36
Rathmines Park Dublin - Rathmines Athletic 1922/23
Richmond Park Dublin - Brideville 1925/26-1929/30
Rutland Avenue Dublin - Jacobs 1921/22-1931/32
Strand Road Dublin - Pioneers 1922/23
The Thatch Dublin - Midland Athletic 1922/23-1923/24, Pioneers 1923/24-1925/26
Tolka Park - Dolphin 1935/36-1936/37
Turners Cross Cork - Cork Bohemians 1933/34
Woodbrook Dublin - Bray Unknowns 1924/25-1928/29
14/10/2008, 1:43 PM
Schumi

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Originally Posted by historynut

Beech Hill, Dublin - Dublin United 1921/22

There's a Beech Hill beside Belfield where there's a plaque saying that the first GAA final was played there. I assume it's the same place?
20/10/2008, 11:21 PM
BohsPartisan

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Originally Posted by Schumi

There's a Beech Hill beside Belfield where there's a plaque saying that the first GAA final was played there. I assume it's the same place?

There you go. UCD could buy the "deeds" then change their name to Dublin United and they could mop up all those ex Dublin City fans!
21/10/2008, 10:39 AM
ifk101

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Originally Posted by Schumi

There's a Beech Hill beside Belfield where there's a plaque saying that the first GAA final was played there. I assume it's the same place?

Just out of interest, but where's Beech Hill in relation to the campus?

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