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I think most of our ire is directed, not at Celtic, but at the barstool brigade over here.
What are Celtic's PR people supposed to do - make themselves unappealing to thousands of Irish fans? Fair play to Celtic, if we could get a quarter of their marketing acumen, we'd have no complaints.
Basically we moan about the barstool brigade, but basically our Pr/ marketing has been pathetic, so its hardly surprising that this monster has been created [the barstool fan, not Celtic!]
So what's the Irish league like then - Is the quality good - How many teams compete.
I thought there was a bigger demand for the Gaelic sport.
Is that the case??
its hard to say
for instance if you're a hardcore fan , like basically ppl who post on these message boards than watching your beloved UCD slug it out to a glorious no score draw with league champions Bohemians may be the best thing you've seen football wise but a neutral watchin the same game would go "eh this place is a dump, theres no fans, why are those players murdering that football?" etc etc
basically the quality is hit and miss with the general media perception here being that it has suddenly improved dramitaclly in the last 2 years (which is basically untrue as the standard has always been ok its just no-one in the media gave a f.uck before)
Brian Kerr managed Ireland to a win over scotland recently and whatever about his track record in youth football he's basically a product of the league of ireland scene and is still closely related to saint patricks athletic
once he made it to the ireland job people started to have more "respect" for their own homegrown league and the media are definitely less inclined to dismiss it out of hand as they did pre brian kerr.
The current Irish asst manager, noel o reilly coached Saint Pats to a league win as recently as 1998 so people are beginning to acknowledge that the quality of our homegrown football people can be world class at times
the players now are full time in nearly half of the prem clubs and all clubs will probably follow this route now.
in europe
recent times v scots
pats drew with celtic 0-0 parkhead
bohs knocked out aberdeen
shels got a result v killie and scored 3 v rangers!
so irish teams would fancy having a go at even the biggest of scots clubs
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Any team that beats Rangers is OK with me!!!
Aberdeen are pants - they used to be really good - 80's winning Europe etc...
Killie - Pretty boring - Just like alot of Scottish teams.
Some good young Bhoys coming through in Scotland and hopefully that can help the Scottish game.
Motherwell has McFadden - Have you seen him play?? - Exciting.
He's a wee bit of a hot head but should come good.
Maloney, Smith, Crainey - These are all Celtic players.
Hopefully the Scottish league can get interesting, although I cannot see in the near future - Who knows with the current climate finicially!!
If not then the Scottish National team MUST get better as they are pants at the moment.
I'd like to see a Scottish/Irish league - I think that would be good - Don't know if it would work though.
I don't want Celtic to move to the Premiership.
I think a European league sounds good.
Maybe Irish teams could get in that as well.
Just a pity Scotland and Ireland 2008 fell through - what a party that would have been!!!
Thanks
$hel$ scored 3 against rangers............but they didn't win!
rangers won 7-3 on aggregate.
I'd love to see Colin Healy play for the Hoops again.
He's a very good player and I think with Paul Lambert could link up well - Celtic's midfiled is lacking a playmaker - I know Colin Healy is not a playmaker but in my opinion merits a start over Neil Lennon.
Ireland has some great players and Scotland has none apart from prospects.
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ireland has some great players but far to often there not irish enoughh for my likeing. there grandparents are irish.I f my grandparents were english i wouldnt consider my self playing for england. in time hopefully more loi players will play for there country.
how is liam miller doing over. us corkonians like to watch our fellow corkmen are doing over the sea
welcome!
The reason i dont like celtic is because of all the irish who go over to scotland and support a scottish team and they think that makes them more irish. you dont get many scotish celtic fans coming over here to watch matchs and fair dues why should they?
AS for scottish people being British, it was actually the scotch who made the english accept the term British. The english refused the first act of union because they didnt want to be known as British! The English are Anglo-saxon/Germanic while the Scots, welsh and Cornish are British Celts. The word Briton actually has nothing to do with engand - its actually a celtic term
The reason I can't stand Irish people supporting Celtic is simply because they do so over Irish teams. When City played Celtic a few years ago there were thousands of Cork people in the ground wearing Celtic jerseys, that makes no sense to me whatsoever.
Another reason is that I hate the youngfellas (and old fellas in certain cases!) who go around in Celtic jerseys spouting IRA rubbish in order to appear like a hard man and impress their friends. They think that it makes them proud Irish men when, in truth, it does the exact opposite.