I’m open to correction but I don’t think Owen Keegan was involved in any of those decisionsQuote:
Originally Posted by Kingswood Rover
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I’m open to correction but I don’t think Owen Keegan was involved in any of those decisionsQuote:
Originally Posted by Kingswood Rover
Just listening back to the latest episode of LOI central and they’re talking about the Icelanders (very valid) comments about Oriel. Dan McD mentioned that at the time of installation Dundalk opted against installing a bounce pad (one of the under layers) for their Astro. So disappointing to hear that. Not having a proper sprinkler system basically means your Astro will be rubbish but when you’re not even installing the necessary layers you’ve got no hope.
In any case, Ireland has one of the best climates in the world for natural grass so fai should just ban all these crappy astros in LOI stadia once and for all.
That makes no sense at all. Just because someone puts in a crap version of something doesn't mean that EVERY version of it should be banned. Particularly as the governing UEFA body doesn't ban artificial surfaces, and they continue to grow in number in lots of places.Quote:
Originally Posted by Philosophizer
A much more sensible approach would be to have decent minimum standards/requirements for artificial turf included in the licensing process. There are good versions of artifical pitches out there.
In agreement with Philosophizer. Astros should be banned from LOI. As someone who has scraped water off the pitch in Finn Park, and faces a regular battle to have a pitch playable at the start and end of season, I'd take that all day over horrible artificial surfaces.
Sand based pitches are thankfully becoming more common in Ireland, and LOI clubs should be looking at building them over artificial surfaces, as they're much more durable, can take a decent amount of traffic, and when built and drained properly can take a fair amount of water and still remain playable.
There are some decent versions out there - I know plenty of Nordic and Russian teams use them well. But that’s because their climate gives them no other option. Uefa could hardly ban astro when teams like Bodo Glimt are inside the arctic circle.Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
No LOI team has ever had an astro that’s suitable for high level professional football.
Even a properly built astro with all necessary under layers and integrated sprinkler system is inferior to a natural grass pitch, which our climate is perfect for.
I’d like to see the fai with their new strategic plan work with LOI clubs to bring their training facilities etc up to a level where they don’t need astros in the main pitch any more.
There's also the question of fairness. If a 10 team league has, say, 4 artificial pitches, then any team which has one will play 2/3 of their matches on artificial. Whereas a team with grass will play fewer than 1/4 of their matches on same.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
This disadvantage is even more marked for Cup games, i.e. whether you're drawn Home or Away.
Quite honestly, I don't think there's any excuse for any Senior LOI club not having grass - I mean, it's not as if a club risked going to the expense of installing a grass pitch, then found themselves relegated out of the LOI to a league where artificial is allowed. While additional clubs introduced to the LOI like eg Kerry FC should be granted 3(?) seasons to move from artificial to grass.
And I think the same principle should apply in the IL too. And to allow for Promotion/Relegation, any team with an artificial pitch which gets promoted to the top two tiers should be required to install grass after their 3rd(?) successive season at Senior level. (Obviously should they get relegated out of the IL before then, they could stick to artificial.)
Eamonn Deacy Park is a full sand carpet constructed in 1995 and still in great conditionQuote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Has more that 100 games per year and rarely has a game postponed in one of the wettest area of the country properly looked after and managed grass pitches are better performing
What is the story with that new stand in Tallaght? I heard before the game last night that there is an issue for the fire officer with the exits. Any truth in that? Looking at the stand up there last night it’s noticeable how smaller the entrance/exit in the seating area is compared to the other three stands.
Those two green seats have been there in their own now for a while.
Before you construct a new building you need to submit a FSC (Fire Safety Certificate) to the fire service where a load of fire safety guidance is proposed, reviewed and finally granted. Where there may be a issue is where it was not designed and/ or constructed in compliance with the granted FSC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yossarian
Aerial and pitch-side drawings of the new 8,000 capacity Dalymount Park.
Planning to be lodged in the coming days.
I tried to copy the photos but couldn't get them across. Look for yourselves on twitter or X
I think it looks terrible. FCKU all squared behind one goal and about 200 behind the other goal.
With the sell on for Evan Ferguson expected to be so big Bohs should be self investing and future proofing the stadium.
It will look terrible like this.
Why can’t we just build proper 4 sided stadia
I mean that sounds like an incredible stupid idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shinkicker
I still think it’s painfully squat. Can’t understand why they haven’t shown a bit more ambition and aimed for 10-12K.
Bohs will outgrow that capacity/design within 10-20years of it opening. Guaranteed.
If an AIL happens within that period, they'll outgrow it even quicker.
Is there a suggested timescale for work starting and ending on it?
How did you get the photos across.?Quote:
Originally Posted by joey B
From the original site, you can right click on an image and "Copy image address"
Then here, use the [img) [/img) tags (with a square bracket at the end) and put the link in between the two tags. Should work then.
Cheers, it wouldn't let me copy them. I'll keep tryingQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
That third picture looks the absolute image of Markets Field if you extended the stand the full length of the pitch. Even has a similar church behind the goal!
Image at the top of this article for reference: https://www.stadiumjourney.com/stadi...ts-field-s2999
Looks nice compared to what is there now, but agree the capacity should be set at 10k minimum. Was the Tramway end (Philip Greene radio commentary) the opposite goal to the school end (Des Kelly)?
I don't might the slightly less ambitious 8k capacity for the new Dalymount. The 6k on the initial plans was definitely a little light but think 8k is a decent size for them in the medium term.
The way things have gone in the past couple years it's reasonable to forecast rovers, bohs and maybe more would regularly attract 10k+ but it's still early days on the leagues new path.
I personally don't see it happening but the arse can come out of it just as fast so being on the conservative side is probably the right move over the long term.
If they are selling out the 8k stadium at the same rate they are their current set up over a couple of seasons then they can try and access some form of expansion if/when that time comes.
Would be essential for the design of the new stadium to enable future expansion if required. The problem with the previous design was not just that it had a capacity that was too low, but also that it seemed to preclude future changes.Quote:
Originally Posted by yurt
Whats going to happen with the other end of the ground where part of the old pitch is? It seems creative but rather limited..
I agree that 8k is fine for now but I do worry that we will need more and I’m not sure if/how it will be able to be expanded. Not sure you can add anything to either of the open ends given property lines and the two stands look single stand traditional roofing set-up… it looks to me like it locks us in at 8k.Quote:
Originally Posted by yurt
More problems for Harps at Stranorlor:
Finn Harps must raise €700,000 for new stadium work
A fundraising committee and a 'main fundraising initiative' will be set up in the coming weeks as Finn Harps look to address a significant funding shortfall for the development of the Donegal Community Stadium in Stranorlar, as rising costs have taken the cost to €7.3m
More here: https://www.donegallive.ie/news/socc...dium-work.html
Any local Sugar Daddy, American Business, Oligarch or Sheikh in Donegal able to help! :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen
I thought Harps always had to raise €700k for the stadium? Or is this a new/increased sum?
They should do a deal with the contractor whereby they effectively cover Harps' £700k (or a portion of it) and then the club pays it back to them over time plus interest, with a legal charge on the ground until it's cleared. That way the work goes ahead for the contractor, and they also keep earning from the site after the build-out is complete. And Harps benefit from getting their new stadium.
We always had to raise matched funding. There's nothing new about this. The only new part is the rising costs, which is unfortunate.
The article above has come from a stadium update posted on the club website and article in match programme from Waterford game.
https://finnharps.ie/new-stadium-upd...om-ian-harkin/
It will require a massive fundraising effort, but that's already well underway. Would be ideal if someone came in to help with a big bulk of costs, however.
How much of the 700k has been raised to date?
No idea. I tend to not ask such questions of the board. I'm not even sure many of them have an accurate figure either, to be fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract
There's been a number of fundraising activities already undertaken though. A golf event and dinner hosted by Shay Given and London Donegal people, in London, a stadium draw, and a few other smaller bits and pieces have already been done.
One in the hand…Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Bit like most Pats fans with the improvements to Richmond. If them pesky councillors agreed to the Richmond Arena we would be in it now. Instead it’s the same empty site it was when our plan was rejected that’s Ireland in a microcosm but.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
I know before we finally moved to Bishopsgate in 1993 we spent guts of a decade tryin to finalise the move and there were financial issues that held it back so I can identify Harps pain.Hopefully they will get over the barriers soon!
Ah yeah, of course. We’re blessed to be in this position all things considered.Quote:
Originally Posted by ger121
I do agree with your post regarding the future but it will be good to have a modern stadium with nearly double the current capacity.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
If you build, they will come!
LoI stadium development thread, click on a link and get a 'Please try again later' message - quite apt really!Quote:
Originally Posted by nr637
Some progress on the new stand at Tallaght.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F7M0VG2W...jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F7M0VG3X...jpg&name=large
Looks great. I'm assuming that it'll be the new season before we can expect Rovers fans to be in there. Will be interesting to see how often it will sell out next season?
You'd imagine both games against Bohs and maybe a champions league fixture should it be against a bigger team. Would they expect any other of the Dublin Derbies to attract 10k+?