Yeah, but we're not talking about Rovers - what about Celtic :DQuote:
Originally Posted by drinkfeckarse
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Yeah, but we're not talking about Rovers - what about Celtic :DQuote:
Originally Posted by drinkfeckarse
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Originally Posted by Conor74
:D :D :D :D
Who's making excuses like?? The vast majority of Celtic fans I know have long realised that we have exceeded expectations and are aware that as long as Celtic are in a poor league like the SPL, then there is only so far you can go.Quote:
Originally Posted by A face
What do you mean by "taken in with all this sh!te"? Is there something wrong with supporting your team?
I reckon fair play to GCFCs marketing guy for roping in so many 'fans'. Thats just good business.Quote:
Originally Posted by A face
I just dont understand these die hard celtic fans who wouldn't know a real live game of football if it bit them in the ass.
By that do you mean the "armchair fans"? Because every team has them. The fans that go and watch the games are no different than anyone else, they pay their money so what's the problem?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary
Do you think that by watching an EL game makes you any different to them??
It doesnt make me a better person, but i cant for the life of me understand how a person could have any affinity to a club with which they have no connection.
Like many people, I enjoy sitting down to watch a match, sometimes even head to the pub to do so, but it always make me laugh with sympathy to see grown men down the pub, wearing 'their' teams colours to watch a game.
As far as I see it, Celtic is a bandwagon- which Irish people are only too happy to jump on.
In an utterly apalling twist of fate, I was actually bitten on the ass the day after last summers Celtic vs Fulham friendly. :( I can fully vouch that the two experiences were quite different and there's no mistaking one for the other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary
Well you're certainly old enough and your maturity is :eek: :D
KOH
What about the other Irish team in Europe last night , great result for the Paddyniathos against Arsenal.
Because they're Scottish. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by davros
Also they wouldn't be allowed a la Wimbledon.
It wasnt celtic as celtic didnt play in hoops when they were formed.Quote:
Originally Posted by davros
My anger last night was that RTE showed that match. The champions league on and who do they show? Two crap teams who have no chance of winning the competition. Why didnt they show Inter v valencia which was obviously the match of the night.
As for the night before that giving us a liverpool team with no chance against ao ff form La Coruna. Surely the match to show was Juve V Bayern Munich. Nedved wont live forever and i want to see him as much as i can.
Do any of you bitter EL boys realise that it is precisely your 'us and them' attitude that stops alot of people from wanting to go to a game at home. Smallminded people who in another era would be spouting IRA propaganda.Don't see the harm in wanting to support whoever ya like in whatever country,after all it is the people's game.
On the Celtic thing,MON has worked wonders given the resources and if any of you EL fans honestly think that youse could get to a UEFA final with that sort of backing:" :ball: Yer havin' a laff"
There are planty in the last few years who have gotten that far or won the competition recently with less resources than Celtic of GlasgowQuote:
Originally Posted by Docboy
Feyenoord, Alaves and Salzberg are three that spring to mind.
I am worried! For the first time in my life I find myself agreeing with someone for Cork!Quote:
Originally Posted by A face
You have summed it all up perfectly! The best post I have read since joining.
i'll be totally honest here and say i used always checked celtics results................but i even forgot about the game last night.
they are sh!t club going nowhere and thats thanx to mr.desmond
in a real world it would take at least 10 million to replace larrsson...............but they get camara on loan
mr.desmond puts on the poor mouth constanly
champions league the last couple of years,uefa cup run to the final, 60,000+ at parkead(celtic pk) every 2nd week and they are broke
my b0llox
he has a fortune amassed thanx to thick ignorant irsh people that think celtic are irish
get a life
i got out in time ;)
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Originally Posted by Gary
So what about the vast majority of Irish people that support e.g. Liverpool or Man Utd? Are they all mad too for supporting a team that they have no affinity with?
If anything it's understandable that so many Irish people support Celtic, the first thing that drew me to them was whenever I saw them on telly when I was young, I always saw loads of Irish flags at the games. That is naturally going to please any young Irish man who loves their country. You don't see too many of them flying about in the Premiership so what draws people to support them?
I personally don't give a sh!te about the argument about whether they are an "Irish" or "Scottish" club, all I know is that any club that celebrates it's links to Ireland is ok in my book.
If that makes people think that I jumped on the proverbial "bandwagon", then look a bit closer to home and ask yourself why you support some Premiership team on the side.
Superb post dfa. I couldn't have put it more succinctly myself, so I'll not bother trying. :D
:) PP
I doubt Barcelona or Milan would see the other two teams in the group as particularly strong. Not having a go at Celtic here, just looking at who they've brought in. Henri Camara from Wolves is hardly a big Euro star, is he?Quote:
Originally Posted by davros
Well, apart from the fact that he's African, I'll take your point. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Duncan Gardner
I'm under no illusions where Celtic are concerned, btw. By failing to invest properly in the playing squad of the club, the board have overseen a step back in footballing terms. Our squad is paper-thin and Wednesday night showed just how thin.
:( PP
As usual, a thread on Celtic turning into an argument, never. :D
This argument about Celtic is ridiculous. I have a soft spot for FC Barcelona - I'm not Spanish (sorry, Catalunyan). So what if Celtic play in Scotland? So what if Celtic have a huge following of Irish supporters! Does it really matter? What's wrong with you all!!!
Why don't we do the club or country argument next - just to change the tune a bit!
The only ones 'celebrating' Celtics 'Irishness' are misguided Irish people who think that GCFC give a fúck. All they care about os the money that you blindly spend on a flawed product.Quote:
Originally Posted by drinkfeckarse
I dont support some premiership team on the side. I watch a few games here and there.Quote:
Originally Posted by drinkfeckarse
Bit tired to be honest of your patronising attitude. When I mentioned our teams playing in the SPL obviously I didnt mean playing on the same level as the Old Firm. The fact that this has to be pointed out to you sums you up. Also you and docboy love calling us, the real fans, bitter.Quote:
Originally Posted by davros
If you want to call us "bitter muppets" for supporting real Irish teams instead of english ones so be it. You claim we are ignorant and need to learn our own history. I am fully aware of Irish culture outside Ireland and I dont need to read any book to clarify this. I'm well travelled and have lived abroad. Lost count of the Irish abroad who did nothing but slag off anything and everything Irish. Sound familiar?
Let me make it real clear what a real fan is. For somebody in THIS country it is supporting your local team FIRST. IF somebody wants to follow the fortunes of manure, celtic or whatever AFTER that fine.
But I cant understand how "fans" here, and these are the real muppets, who refuse to support an Irish team and yet spend a lot of sterling "supporting" an english team. Witness an english team coming over playing an Irish one and the Irish team getting booed onto the field by these wannabee english ****s. Witness these same MUPPETS foaming at the mouth when the english national team are playing. Best of the lot is when you point out the hypocrisy :eek:
Might I suggest you take your head out of the clouds or your arse, come home and take a game in without the chip on your shoulder.
KOH
what a wonderfully balanced and informative assessment of Celtics financial situation and indeed that of Scottish football.Quote:
Originally Posted by thecorner
I really would be ignorant on these things if it wasn't for foot.ie
bravo - keep it up.
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Originally Posted by NY Hoop
hahahah the old 'Real fan' argument. Once again an EL fan enlightens me as to what a REAL fan is, oh what would we do without you.
Every club sells a product and it's up to the public to buy it. What about the merchandising machine that is Manchester United?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary
Cork City sell a product whether you accept it or not. The "Rebel Army" is rolling so to speak, encouraging fans to come along and City's fanbase has increased considerably in the last few years due to the marketing push.
The funny thing is, if a fella for instance from London is over in Cork some weekend, takes in a City game and gets hooked, what you do say to him then if he keeps coming over to support City thereafter? Tell him to get to f**k?, support your own local team? Methinks not, he would be made more than welcome which is exactly the case for Celtic supporters.
The vast majority of Celtics fanbase are Scottish but if you're not then you're welcome to support the team anyway.
What's the problem???
You're quite right, the commitment shown by people going to the pub to watch English teams never fails to inspire me and I only wish I could manage the same level fandom as them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Junior
The difference being is that the London guy wont have started supporting City because of their 'Catholic Roots'.Quote:
Originally Posted by drinkfeckarse
Another difference being that this guy wont be supporting City because its a socially accepted norm to do so.
Most Irish Celtic 'Supporters' have never been to Parkhead once, let alobe regular visitors.Quote:
Originally Posted by drinkfeckarse
:D very good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
As explained earlier, I started supporting Celtic because the fact that I saw loads of Irish flags at Parkhead impressed me which will be the case for a lot of Irish fans, not because it's the socially accepted norm. The supporting them because they're a Catholic club theory is misplaced and dated considering a number of the team are Protestant. In days gone by that might've been relevant and even then only in Glasgow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary
Most foreign fans of any club have never been to a game involving their side, in most cases it probably boils down to financial reasons which is fair enough.
I'm not going to call him any less of a fan just because he can't go to a game than say the fella who lives next door to the stadium and is a company director somewhere.
What you are basically suggesting is that Irish Celtic fans support them for the sole reason of it being "cool" to do so or because of religion.
A very uneducated generalisation IMO. Just because you're not a Celtic supporter yourself and can't understand it doesn't mean you should pidgeonhole people who are.
I don't understand how you support Cork City but I don't question it or have a problem with it ;) ;) :D
Think you need to re read my last post. Maybe I do need to check out my local library to see who these shams are :pQuote:
Originally Posted by davros
You've been to a few games at home. Did you feel the need to spread your knowledge of the "diaspora" when you were at the games cos after all EL fans are ignorant?!!
It's up to the directors of the club to concentrate their energies on getting Tallaght up and running. You think arsenal fans are building emirates stadium?! :o
KOH
Be a barstooler and go down to a pub to cheer on a foreign team?! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Junior
KOH
sorry to ruin your theory - but I happily spend large amounts of my hard earned cash and time supporting Celtic and Ireland. However I tend to refrain from going on ego trips telling the world they are 'thick', 'barstoolers' ' not a REAL fan' etc. look at me I support my local team yadda yadda yadda........Quote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
Blue Peter badge for that man - woo hoo
So only if you support an EL team would you know this? What about the coach and plane loads of supporters who regularly make the trip to glasgow to support their team - are these REAL fans? I guess not, because they are supporting a foreign club yadda yadda yaddaQuote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
Walk into Tom Lynchs on Barracka, and you will see that my 'generalization' uis quite accurate. IRA tattoos with Celtic jersies. Great fashion statement there.Quote:
Originally Posted by drinkfeckarse
Okay, I do take the point that a guy can be a genuine GCFC fan, while living abroad.
Wha??? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by drinkfeckarse
Only ignoramus' call us shams. Dont know who these ROVERS' fans are that are happy with that title.Quote:
Originally Posted by davros
I'm not paranoid. Ultimately people will do what they want. Dont take any notice of barstoolers generally. Their senses cant be dulled. They are already brain dead. Why do you think they all follow manure or liverpool?!!They know about as much about the game as the gum on my shoe. If andy gray said drink paint they would do it :D
Undoubtedly the EL is a lower level than the CL and the EPL but on a par with the SPL, bar the big 2 of course.
And I have absolutely no problem with the GAA.
KOH
I believe the term is Ignoramii!!! :p ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
Wha??? :confused:[/QUOTE]Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary
Just joking Gary, should've put "why you support" instead of "how you support" and it would've came across a bit better.
Basically, each to their own I suppose is the moral of the story!!
LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary
Now where's my blue peter badge yadda yadda yadda?! :rolleyes: :D
KOH
The point is there's no difference between the Celtic fans and the EPL "barstoolers". I've no problem with people supporting foreign clubs, if you want to do that than that's fine, nobody is obliged to support anybody, but don't try and tell me some random foreign club is more "Irish" than another. They're all the same. You can fly all the Irish flags you want at CP and be formed by whoever you want, it doesn't change a thing. Now, I wont be daft enough to say that as a result of this celtic fans aren't "real" fans, all I'm saying is there's no difference between them and the rest of the people who follow foreign clubs.Quote:
Originally Posted by drinkfeckarse
Someone mentioned how Celtic have connections here due to the fact that so many Irish support Celtic. Well I'd say the most popular club over here is Man U, not Celtic, and at least nobody trys to claim anything about how "Irish" or not they are.
And to the person complaining about RTE showing the celtic game over the other CL games, get yourself Sky :D Watched Milan V Barca myself, absolutley cracking game. Two teams who simply have world class players all over and oddly enough the Italians actually left their own half at times in the match, wouldn't suprise me at all if thsoe two clubs contested the final if that's possible.
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Originally Posted by Slash/ED
I think you'll find there's no difference between the Celtic barstoolers and EPL barstoolers not the Celtic fans Slash. That was my point about every Celtic fan being pidgeonholed with the same stigma.