Sacked for doing what? they are doing better in the league than last season. Managers can only do so much with the players they have at their disposaleQuote:
Originally Posted by renovater
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Sacked for doing what? they are doing better in the league than last season. Managers can only do so much with the players they have at their disposaleQuote:
Originally Posted by renovater
Just saw 2 articles in the Mayo News + Con Telegraph about the sacking of O'Connor as Westport Manager
He really feels hard done by what happened and by reading the article he has every reason to be
Read the Mayo News one myself, seems 4 players spoke on behalf of the team to get rid of him. I see Brian Kennedy was not answering his phone, does that mean he is 1 of the 4??
A disgrace really, cannot see any manager jumping at the chance to take them over now, players over managers!!
I read the report online here in Athens. It would surely spark a debate amongst the Westport faithful. It wouldn't be the sort of story to advertise the club with.
Dont be suprised if a certain D Kilkelly was to take over!!!!!!! You heard it here first. He has a bee in his ego sorry bonnet about the U-20s at Celtic:pQuote:
Originally Posted by irishyop
Wait I saw a pig flying over the car there ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by swift
Swit swoo, trying to make us all jealous are ya now :D Enjoy the holidayQuote:
Originally Posted by swift
is he not the new Oscar Traynor head coach???Quote:
Originally Posted by swift
as i said all along the committee wouldnt know a football if it hit them between the two eyes.was this done to save money for the new ground ???Quote:
Originally Posted by jackd
You think maybe the commet teee are trying to blame use the players as an excuse?
Well said! One rule for one guy....Quote:
Originally Posted by taztkblue
Jesus, whats going on here? Theres prob a lot more to this than meets the eye. Whats the new guy goin to think?- win the league and im still sacked! Is this westport or real madrid!!!!:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by jackd
:eek:Check Mayo Thread. 2 more gone at Town :mad::eek:
its a smoking gun my friendQuote:
Originally Posted by the dude
If you think that's bad enough poor old nickicy as fallen out with hard man furgal ford of Ballina, and has parted company,last SundayQuote:
Originally Posted by hardcore
I have to say that your spelling is nothing short of disgraceful. How did you get renovator right?. Just like your comments you make no sense at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by renovater
Look beyond the results, Westport won the title and cup in a league where the standard has dramatically dropped. Ballina would have won it if their squad had been bigger. Westport have been playing shakily all season with the ball spending more time in the air than on the ground, our pass and move football is gone due to it not being coached in the players, we spend more time trying to win back posession than attacking, I dont remember the last time the goalkeeper did not take a long goal kick ,if a team are going to training and just having a jog and a kickabout with no coaching of set piece work, the results are evident on the pitch. If the manager is not drilling a system of play into the players in training ,then the team goes into games playing haphazardly.
If the team continue to play to the level that they have been playing the team will get slaughtered in external competitions, and will be found out.
Brendan had one of the most talented sides in the country and if you cant acheive something (even with injuries, there were a few replacements in the B squad but he never went to the B games, he should have - Chris Ryder - as Cam was injured, Ronan OMalley- as Gerry is in OZ , and Busty - their best player this season, comes to mind) there is no hope for you.
So you are one of the famous 4 then are you? You obviously play with Westport United do you? So whats the players slant on the depart of BOC?Quote:
Originally Posted by Leveller
one of the hang men....explain yourself.... your really are a joke
So which one of the 4 are you???Quote:
Originally Posted by Leveller
Westport were the team with lots of injurys all season and not Ballina Town.If you look at the results they got and just checked Soccerbot there and if you add the cup games they won 22 games from 26.Also best Definsive record in the league and scored a lot of Goals too
Not a bad run from a decimated squad all season.
He was at a few of the B games and from what i hear did get regular reports from the B team management on players as couldnt travel down to all games from Galway like
Who in the B team was better than the players he picked for the A team as a matter of interest
Would you have played 2 very inexpierienced players on the wings as in R O'Malley + C Ryder??
Busty was there best player probably but is he a better full back than Joe Lawless or Colin Navin or a better Centre half than Lovejoy,Eoghan,Peter,Austin
Sure the games they played they easily created chances in double figures every match and it was due to poor finishing - is that the Managers fault??
Sure he achieved a league + Cup double and nearly a treble with an injury hit squad - what would he achieve with a fully fit Squad then??
this really makes me laugh,its just like the chelsea & "the special one". all chelsea players liked "the special one" bar 2,and the 2 helped get him the sack.just like westpost!!. chelsea won lots playing not the most attractive football (but still WON), just like westport!!!. chelsea now want to play like spurs(but they have WON f**k-all)..just like westport!!!.
i bet the other 9 teams in the super would like BOC to manager them and win both & league in one season..
the infamous 4 hang your heads in shame !!
What players were missing through injury. I know that 3 lads went to Oz, but who was missing all season that would have made a difference over the players that were available.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackd
I would say eight.Quote:
Originally Posted by the grape vine
ok. maybe 8 :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Closing Time
Utd had one of the one of the most talented squads in the country, but players form & attitude changes (as seen in the AIB Cup Final), especially after winning the holy grail. Westport supporters think that the team should be palying the way they did in 2005 and have the same team for ever more, but that is dream land. The reality is that Utd have not added enough quality players to the this squad and once they are missing 3/4 players they start crying that they can put out their best team (always going back to 2005), instead of bringing on the young talent at the club. Look at all the players that were not available to Celtic since 2005 and I dont see us whinging about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leveller
I saw your B squad this year good team but did not see one player good enough to make your A team or would have made a difference.
who going to take the hot seat? will k.c or p.b make the running or will it be nickie or D. Killkelly, even though they are x Celtic.Would there be to much Humble Pie to sallow.
What happened to the Van!! and the free phone
Gentlemen, Brendan OConnor was manager for Westport United, a role which he got paid for and was sponsored a van. At the end of each season his contract is up for review, this was agreed with him when he first took up the position. Westport United, as an employer (or any employer) have the right not to renew his contract once it expires, and, they chose to exercise this right and not renew it.
With regard to the team/ committee moaning etc, Brendan chose to speak with the papers about the issue, not the club or the players, the matter should have been kept internal. As regards the number of players involved, dont believe all that you read.
The players were not happy with regard to the way the team was run in comparison to the way it was previously, and they, have the right for the good of the club and the team to voice their concerns, I am not condoning player mutiny in any way but opinions have to be taken on board.
Jack D, We have the best defensive record, and rightly so, because we have the best defenders, in the league, and lots of them, if there was one thing we should have been doing is defending. Considering we had at least seven of them on the pitch at once for most games.
As for the B team players the three I have mentioned have been playing regularly, so they are hardly wet behind the ears, as regards physicality I am sure they would endure as good a kicking in the premier as the super league, one of them at least could have been on the bench for some of the games and brought on in the second half, Busty is as good as Alan McLoughlin or Ray (when fit).
Ronan OMalley could have been brought to the bench instead of Colm Keane and Chris Ryder could be brought on and let Colin Nevin go back to left full where Austin has been playing, which is not his best position. Westport have been lacking the creative players out wide all season.
These lads could have been brought on and need to be, the manager was told who was playing well (they must be, look at their league position) and, as manager he chose not to, that was his choice but not now. These lads will be given opprutunities to prove themselves now, and they will step up to the plate.
He had a fit squad against Heatmerchants who were a very average team last season and how did he do?
Closing time: If you did not have players available since 2005 there was no crying from you guys, you didnt have to, GD got former LOI players and players from other mayo league clubs to fill the gaps in your squad, and you still could not win the Connacht or the Junior Cup. I have to say Athenry played some great football that day.......
The Westport United Passion Wagon is probably getting shined up at Tim Hastings as we speak. Did he have a phone? I didnt know that.Quote:
Originally Posted by renovater
What a load of ******....so your saying the players got the manager sacked ? You agree with this ? B team players...you won the league ! what more do you want....i'd put money that you won't win it next season
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Originally Posted by billyc
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You must have a crystal ball? We will be back for our title and we will win by a greater margin than last year. Bet on it.
Billy C, there is another reason why he was sacked, but I wont be allowed to post it on the site, all the players know and they do not want him back.
It was very serious and went beyond his duties as manager. It is not a laughing matter.
The news is around The Port as to why he was sacked and it will take a few days to filter through. Everyone will understand. He had to go.
Well lets get on with the football, We have a massive game tomorrow against S + F which we have to win.
anyone any idea of possible starting team
are Danny + Gerry going be far off the first team with coming back yesterday from australia
any idea on a permanent manager
Your'e right Jack, it is a massive game tomorrow, I am expecting the lads will have something to prove considering the events of the past week, I think what has happened will galvanise the team. We will see a different Westport tomorrow.
As regards Gerry and Danny, I think once they start training again with the team they will be gradually introduced, they are badly needed.
The job is advertised, so we will have to wait and see, hopefully one of the ususal suspects who have been recently been made jobless will take the post.
I think once the real truth is out to why BOC was removed from his duties (only half the story is public knowledge), they will look at the situation differently, if they are reading this, talk to the club and dont believe all the media coverage.
See you at the game!
I enjoyed your thread Levy, I hope his psi and contributions are in order, as you described as Westport were the Employers.
However, I do agree don't believe what was written about B.O.C. that he was stabbed in the back.I think local poeple know why he was removed, only to say it was a moral one rather than a football one.J.L. would no what moral grounds are.
Once you cross the line, you no longer have control of the dressing room.
From my point of view from what I have learned, The Club had no Choice but to relieve him of his dutys.Shame on him B.O.C.
I hope he has learned his lesson.
Thanks for that Reno, the word is out and people know what the story is as regards his departure. It has been a long 10 days for some people at the club, people at the club and team members took alot of flak on the chin during this time trying to do what was right. Its time to get on with playing football and get back to basics.Quote:
Originally Posted by renovater
I was at the match today against S&F they put in a spirited performance, we played terrible but managed to grind out a result from a Peter Burke header which came from a corner, Dessie OMalley had a penalty saved, we were lucky. Busty made a second half cameo and Dave Cameron played the whole game. We will take the result but will need to improve.
yes i also was at the match, westport were'nt terrible, S&F didnt let them play and made them look very average. westport dont like to be under pressure or hit hard which S&F done, maybe its a less to be learnt for other teams, put them under pressure and they crumble. westport are a good side dont get me wrong, but they are nothing special. thought burke had a very good game for westport with alan mcdonnell, gerry gaughan and john jordan standing out for s&f. its a pitty s&f hadnt that team out all year. they wouldnt be where they are now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leveller
Yes Utd will be the team to beat again next year, about a greater margin will depends on Celtic and if they will use the U-20 playeres . Celtic will have to decide which league to go for SL or Eircom U-20. As far as I am aware it will be the U-20 league and this should leave the SL wide open for Utd. If Celtic used all the players availabe to them I think the league would be close and a hard one to call.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leveller
Lever as for you point about Celtic signing outside players yes GD did bring in a number of players some good some not so good but Celtic will always be happy to sign players from other clubs for both the senior & youths teams. It is not our fault that these players are willing to come to Celtic to improve themselves. I think you used 4 new players yourselves this year to help win the double. If you look at all the big clubs in the country they all sign players every year and I see no one whinging about it. As for losing the Junior cup semi, yes Atherny were the best team on the day and we took this defeat on the chin and moved on. We didnt need to go to court to help us win a title.
I think that Utd have the right to sack their manager for what ever reason. If the players are not happy with a manager the players views always wins out, be that right or wrong. The type of football been played by Utd over the last year has been very direct and not like the style taht won them the JC. I dont know, was this because they lost the 3 players to OZ, time will tell on their return.Quote:
Originally Posted by billyc
[quote=Closing Time;790464]Yes Utd will be the team to beat again next year, about a greater margin will depends on Celtic and if they will use the U-20 playeres . Celtic will have to decide which league to go for SL or Eircom U-20. As far as I am aware it will be the U-20 league and this should leave the SL wide open for Utd. If Celtic used all the players availabe to them I think the league would be close and a hard one to call.
Lever as for you point about Celtic signing outside players yes GD did bring in a number of players some good some not so good but Celtic will always be happy to sign players from other clubs for both the senior & youths teams. It is not our fault that these players are willing to come to Celtic to improve themselves. I think you used 4 new players yourselves this year to help win the double. If you look at all the big clubs in the country they all sign players every year and I see no one whinging about it. As for losing the Junior cup semi, yes Atherny were the best team on the day and we took this defeat on the chin and moved on. We didnt need to go to court to help us win a title.[/
[SIZE=2]It might be close, but don’t forget that the LOI U21 league is an underage league, which is restricted by age and limits the type of player that they will face, many of these players will struggle once they come out of the constraints in terms of age and have to face stronger and just as able players as themselves.
What would concern me at Celtic is that once the U21 players become over age they have no LOI Senior team to go into. So where do they go? Back to the Junior team? I bet that they would love that. I would say that some of the players have expectations of playing in the LOI and beyond and will result in great disappointment when it does not happen in many cases. In a few years as the players come over age you have a situation where you have greater player turnover due to the club having a LOI U21 team and a Junior team with the U21 players pushing out the Junior players. I am sure that when this situation starts happening it will discourage players coming to the club.
We used two players, Peter Burke, and Johnny Obrien.
Closing; we all play, watch/ support the game of football, in doing this we all agree to play and be bound by its rules. In the Junior semi final we played a team which fielded and ineligible player. During the game VOM was sent off for a hand ball clearance off the goal line, and, by the rules of the game he was duly sent off, during his sending off the opposing team made a substitution which turned out to be an ineligible player, this player duly dispatched the resulting penalty, itself a double irony. We played for 60 minutes with ten men and equalised, were the better team. The game went to penalties and who scored one of the penalties? Our friend. By the laws of the game he should not have been on the pitch and the club proved this in the court of law by the laws of the game, which bind us.
The same laws, which allowed SR to play in the Cup final, he should not have been at the ground let alone on the pitch as he was given a 12 month ban for his conduct at the sideline of last years final. The same laws allowed him to play.
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is there any truth in the talk of D Kilkelly taking the westport post?