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everton have played 5 games which included utd arsenil and bolton ! 3 teams from the top 6 . they have 3 points and its considered a complete dissaster .
liverpool have 6 points from 4 games of which only one team is atop 6 team and there season is a complete success apparently !! there is only one win between the two teams and that win was gotten at home v sunderland
but unlike liverpool fans we wont blame our injury list (10 first team players) for our problems .
Everton have lost 4 out of 5 games and played very crap (bar portsmouth i hear) in them all. Spurs and middlesboro are just as good if not better than bolton this year and spurs will finish ahead of bolton i reckon. Middlesboro BEAT Arsenal at the riverside too lets not forget where we should have won. Everton wil get thrashed at the riverside AND white heart lane dont worry about that!Quote:
Originally Posted by anto1208
I wouldnt blame your injury list either for your relegation form, id blame crap players, crap tactics, and crap manager :D :D :D
ill agree with the first 2 points ,tactics are terrible its this crap 451 system that every one is playing even liverpool utd chelsea etc etc ...Quote:
Originally Posted by jockser
players have been poor i wont make excuses for them it costs me over a grand a year to go to the home games i want my money's worth from them
but moyes is the best british manager in england at the moment , if not the best in the prem .
they ll come good once we get our centre back our left back and our holding midfielder right winger and striker fit .thats a good chunk out of any team
Crouch (7m), Sissoko (6m) and Reina (6m) total 19 million that not including the others brought in say another 3 million......THE NEW STADIUM COSTS, the 11 million paid of to Houllier and staff. You are so nieve have you the Liverpool account bookes or something?Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
LOL oh so he rejected newcastle did he?WHO DOES HE PLAY FOR NOW? Im convinced you are 12 or less now!!! Have you Michael Owen dolls in your bedroom? Oh and by the board SANCTIONED 12 MILLION FOR OWEN NOT 17 MILLION thats why owen had to reject Newcastle WHICH HE DIDNT so AGAIN you are pulling these statements from your a**eQuote:
Michael publicly rejected Newcastle, in order to clear the way for him to come to Anfield. The directors were prepared to personally fund the transfer, but Beni didn't want to know.
We have played 4 teams(2 less than everyone else) who will all finish in the top 6 or 7 (bar sunderland who we beat if we win those and beat chelsea next week we are 3 points behind them so again whats your point.Quote:
So what's happened? We have scored one goal so far this season, less than Wigan, West Ham, and Sunderland, with 5 strikers available!! :eek: Wtf is going on??
No it is no cop out coz you said we should spend like cheslea and i quote you.... "If you want the best players, you pay the asking price. That's what Chelsea did, so they're top now. We didn't, that's why we're 11th!" You see in the real world NOT championship manager you cannot do this UNLESS you have literally billions to spend. Chelsea are the only team that can do this.Quote:
Ah, so we all refer to Leeds Utd, when ambitious clubs spend money. Cop out!
What !!!!how childish is this comparison?!?! Manu dominated the league for 10 years when they bought Rio!!! They were NEVER outside the top 2 and bought Rio coz they could afford him and needed only to strenghen in that area. Liverpool have to strenghten in all areas. You arguments really are very sad indeed.Oh and we payed "peanuts" for Alonso Reina Sissoko Crouch Garcia Morientes.....all monkeys......Quote:
United paid Leeds £30 million for Rio Ferdinand in July 2002. It was a crazy fee, but they paid it, and won the league that season. What harm did it do them? If you want the best, you pay the asking price. If you want to pay peanuts, you'll get monkeys.
Im sorry it is NOT crap....owen DID decide to leave in February.Quote:
More crap!! Owen's new contract was being drawn up, when Beni took one look at him and threw him out. Owen didn't want to go, Real didn't want to sign him, but Beni got what he wanted, so we finished 5th, behind Everton.
Again your Michael Owen infatuation is a bit worrying. This is your most pathetic arguement yet!We had a poor league season due to the reason i mention not coz Micheal owen was not there.....did Michael Owen win us the champions league too?Quote:
I am allowing for the injury list, but we finished 3 points behind 4th, now how many points for one win? Ah yes, 3 points. One more win would have got us 4th. Now ordinarily, who would we have turned to to win that one solitary match? Guess who?
Yes you are concentrating on the league coz you know if we bring the CL into it your arguements look even more pathetic. I am talking about LFC in all competitions and judging them on a whole season with performances in ALL compitionsQuote:
You will notice that I am concentrating on league results here. The league is more important, than the CL.
yes thats right michael owen scored all the goals and saved all the penaltiesQuote:
But if you insist, I ask you whose goals got us into last year's CL, the season before? No prizes for guessing, obviously.
It IS progress coz it is FACT we have more points playing the mentioned clubs than we had last year playing them. So is that not progress? It is FACT AND PROOF that we have progressed. So answer me this if our first 4 home games of the season were against the bottom 4 teams and we won all four and had maximum points you would see that as progres right?!?!?! :rolleyes: .....sadQuote:
You call that progress?? Would Chelsea? Would Arsenal? Don't think so.
they wont but because you seem unable to judge the quality of teams and cant see thatQuote:
Spurs, perennially useless, will fall back to their customary 11th place soon enough,
Middlesbrough BEAT Arsenal at home.......compare our draw then to that......progress? nah!!!! i didnt think so!!Quote:
and with respect, we should be beating Middlesbrough, with 5 strikers to call from.
ALL games ALL performances ALL compitions mypost :rolleyes:Quote:
League games Jockser, League games.... :rolleyes:
Liverpool WILL finish with 15 to 20 points more than last season.....wana bet on that!!!?!??! You will see......it WILL be progress.....and i know you will STILL be whingingQuote:
We're NOT producing in the league, which is more important than the CL, and gives a more accurate picture of our long-term progression. Yeah, we're getting points, but we are not winning enough games. Do you expect us to live on that Sunderland win for the rest of the season? :confused:
ARSENAL: 2 EVERTON: 0
Gloating is not a character trait that anyone relishes, but Soccernet's Insider has been waiting for this moment and cannot resist the chance to revisit a subject so close to his heart.
Regular readers of this column may recall an article penned at Craven Cottage back in April, an afternoon when Everton covered themselves in ignominy with a hapless performance against Fulham. 'Not In Our Name' was the title of passage that sparked something of a revolution among Toffees fans who could barely comprehend what they read.
It was a moment when David Moyes' 'heroic' side were closing in on a top four finish, a Champions League place we were told a the time. With most observers hailing Everton's unlikely run of results as a 'romantic tale', it was somewhat controversial to go against the tide of euphoria by suggesting the Premiership would be better off if Moyes' men fell at the last.
'Before Everton fans get carried away with the idea of Bayern Munich and Barcelona coming to Goodison Park next season, they should consider a more probable scenario,' was the opening offering of this offensive script.
'While Toffees fans appear to be under the impression that they have a divine right to be playing Champions League football after finishing more than 30 points behind the Premiership leaders, the truth is they are a long way from claiming their place among the game's elite.'
The feature went on to outline the reasons why Everton finishing fourth would be bad for English football. Suggesting their feeble squad and negative tactics would be a bad advert for the Premiership and that they would basically make a fool of themselves in the Champions League qualifiers inspired a hail of abuse from bitter Scousers.
Soccernet's editor received dozens of emails demanding an apology for this outrageous slur, the feature was posted on Everton message boards, with the search to identify the man behind the mask of The Insider becoming something of a mission for those who swear loyalty to the blue shirt.
A few months on, and the words in that article have been harrowingly hammered home. I was right and you lot were wrong is the easy thing to say in response to those angry Scousers, but the truth is Everton's fluke fourth place finish was a sign of what lay ahead in this rapidly declining Premiership.
That Everton, Bolton and Middlesbrough are representing English football in European competition is proof that negative, long ball football is the route to success and the desperately disappointing start to this new season confirms the 'romantic' stories of last term have inspired a more deep rooted problem in the game.
Villarreal exposed Everton as little more than Champions League frauds, while their 5-1 thumping at the hands of Dinamo Bucharest in the UEFA Cup last week was confirmation that you can get lucky over a 38 game season. As predicted, they have been a pathetic embarrassment for English football on their return to European football and as they rolled into Highbury for this Premiership mismatch, their pride was about to take another dent.
The tactical genius who goes by the name of Moyes proved himself to be as ambitious as ever as he loaded his side with a striker who rarely scores, a five man midfield designed solely to keep the score down and a defence under order to fire the ball as far up the field as possible at every opportunity.
Playing with a lone striker is one thing, but when that man is the less than prolific Marcus Bent, you have a right to be worried. With ten men behind the ball every time Arsenal crossed the half-way line, this was another case of a Premiership manager playing for a 0-0 draw at all costs, though they were not even good enough to keep their hopes of a glorious draw alive for more than 26 minutes.
An early shot from Bent inspired wild excitement among the Everton fans, but it was a false dawn as by half-time, Sol Campbell had finished the game as a contest by heading two goals past a flaky defence.
Even without the injured Thierry Henry, Arsenal were able to use this game as little more than a glorified training session as while Everton have the fortune of playing in the same league as the Gunners, they may as well have been a non-league outfit merely here to enjoy their night out.
When Phil Neville and Matteo Ferrari had an on-pitch argument 10 minutes before the break, their miserable night was complete. Second best in every challenge, this was a side that looked beaten from the off and on this evidence, you fear for their very existence in this league.
There were a few moments of attacking intent and as Bent found himself in an off-side position after 19 minutes, he must have feared the worst. You wondered whether Moyes would revolt against his lonesome front man. What was he doing! Fine that man a week's wages. The Everton flat back 11 was well set until that point!
Moyes' solution to his problem was to throw Duncan Ferguson into the fray, a player who we are told epitomises the spirit of this club. Well, his arrival ensured a few London pigeons would be under threat as Everton opted for Plan B - launch the ball as high as possible and try and hit the 'big Scot'.
In Robin van Persie, Arsenal had a forward with more ability in his little finger than Bent or Ferguson boasts in their entire bodies and his performance may be a turning point for the young Dutchman at Highbury. Sent off here in the Champions League last week, his polished display in this game was impressive. He looks more like his compatriot Dennis Bergkamp with each passing week, there can be no greater compliment than that.
Freddie Ljungberg crashed an effort against the bar 20 minutes from time, but by this point Everton looked happy to keep the score down to just two. Still playing with eight or nine defenders until the closing moments, Moyes could hardly offer an excuse for his side's ineptitude as he confronted the press.
'We stopped them playing, stopped them creating too many chances, so that was something we can take from the game,' said Moyes, providing this article with the sort of quote that could not have been more apt if it were made up. 'After the week we had, Arsenal were probably the worst team we could have played as they are so dangerous going forward.
'The frustrating aspect of the evening was that we let ourselves down on the basics. We gave them too many free kicks in dangerous areas and defended poorly as we tried to keep them out.'
Thanks for that inspired assessment Moyesie. He went on: 'I never accept defeat, so I won't stand here now and say I'm happy that it was only 2-0, but I can take something from the second half showing. We asked the players to stand up and be counted and they did that for us, so we will move on and try to get a positive result from our next game.'
Arsene Wenger appeared bemused by Everton's lack of ambition, but negative tactics are not something the Arsenal manager understands. 'Everton didn't want to attack us in the second half,' he said in a quizzical Gallic voice, but Arsene is clearly missing the point of their tactical mastery.
Quite what Moyes was trying to accomplish here at Highbury is anyone's guess, but if 0-0 was the dream result then his team were desperately short of what they needed to batter the Premiership's reputation into submission once again.
Everton were woeful and if they finish fourth this season, I will walk naked from London to Liverpool next May. I'm confident my dignity will not come under too much threat.
Oh by the way Everton fans, direct all your complaints to newsdesk@soccernet.com - the Insider got a great giggle out of them last time.
We have just played, and only drawn against, a side who at full strength were beaten by Grimsby!! Fecin' Grimsby could beat them, but we can't!Quote:
Originally Posted by jockser
Oh yes it is crap, Michael Owen DID NOT decide to leave at the time of year stated above. Obviously true, or else he would have left sooner than he was told to.Quote:
Im sorry it is NOT crap....owen DID decide to leave in February. Again your Michael Owen infatuation is a bit worrying. We had a poor league season due to the reason i mention not coz Micheal owen was not there,
I don't have any infatuation with Michael Owen, it's just that I don't like key players being sold for the fun of it, deprive us of a 20+ goal a season striker, which then promptly wrecks our season. That's not infatuation, they are well-founded grounds for concern regarding the overall health of the club.
Fair enough, we won the CL. But in the league, our bread-and-butter, the overall report is not good enough, irrespective of injuries, we should be doing better than we are. If you want to focus on how wonderful we were in one competition, that's fine, but all it does is paper over the cracks. We are showing our true colours in the league, and the lack of goals, lack of good results, and current league position say that we are not currently performing to our potential. How in the name of sweet Jaysus, can a side with 5 strikers available, manage to score only one goal in 4 games?? :confused: It's even more worrying, when some people pass that off as progress. If it was one of our rivals, we'd be pising ourselves laughing at their misfortune. With those resources at our disposal, up against at best, mediocre opposition, we should be scoring at will.Quote:
Yes you are concentrating on the league coz you know if we bring the CL into it your arguements look even more pathetic. I am talking about LFC in all competitions and judging them on a whole season with performances in ALL compitions. It IS progress coz it is FACT we have more points playing the mentioned clubs than we had last year playing them. So is that not progress? It is FACT AND PROOF that we have progressed.
I'm not going to comment on, "look it's great, we got a point here and there", because over the season, we will drop points against teams we beat last season, so it will even itself out over time.
You seem to think that beating the bottom team 1-0 at home, aided by 3 goalless draws, and being 11th is progress. Well, it's not progress to me, it's stagnation. Meanwhile, the gap to first place grows and grows, with each passing week. :(Quote:
So answer me this if our first 4 home games of the season were against the bottom 4 teams and we won all four and had maximum points you would see that as progres right?!?!?! .sad
As stated above, we have merely drawn against a side at full strength, beaten by minnows Grimsby 10 days later. Spurs are sh-it, they will suffer more of the same results, and currently lie 8th in the league, heading for their annual 11th place. Middlesbrough lie 9th, Sunderland lie 20th. Quality? You're having a laugh. :DQuote:
you seem unable to judge the quality of teams and cant see that
Yeah, I will. We got a draw at a team, who were beaten by Chelsea on their own pitch,...again. They're the games you need to win to succeed, not merely draw.Quote:
Middlesbrough BEAT Arsenal at home.......compare our draw then to that......progress?
At this rate, we will be doing well to score 15 or 20 goals by December, and as we only have 6 points now, we will be doing well to reach last season's total, the way things are going. Results better improve pronto, or we'll find ourselves with too much to do,...again. :rolleyes:Quote:
Liverpool WILL finish with 15 to 20 points more than last season.....wana bet on that!!!?!??! You will see......it WILL be progress.....and i know you will STILL be whinging
youre a header kid!!!! youre arguments are too silly for me to reply to anymore :D
even i agree with you on this one !! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by jockser
Best coach in Europe to stay.....feck :(
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drill...50921-1426.htm
So, you admit you lost the argument then?? :D :)Quote:
Originally Posted by jockser
I could do a quote by quote reply to mypost's reply to mine, but I just couldn't be arsed because it'd take too long :D Instead I'll just make the following observations;
1. You love Michael Owen and you're very pi$$ed off that he isn't back at Liverpool.
2. You DO have an agenda against Benitez, probably because of the first point above.
3. You're delusional because you've just compared us to Real Madrid, AC Milan and Chelsea. Clubs who regularly win their domestic title (Chelsea aside, but not for long), and clubs who have potloads of money regardless of how they perform. In case you haven't noticed, we haven't won the title in 15 years.....yet we should all of a sudden expect to have the same mentality as the aforementioned clubs? :We barely finished above Spurs last season, yet now they are supposed to be mere fodder to us? That's just ridiculous, you're understanding of rebuilding is certainly different to mine :p . Forget about the CL victory. Winning the league requires a different mentality and that is what Benitez is working towards.
We will know more when Liverpool play the lesser sides. I consider Spurs and Boro away as the two toughest away games aside from the top 3 and the derby against Everton. Utd at home again is one of the toughest games of the season. I think four clean sheets is impressive against these sides, lets see if the goals will flow in the next few weeks. Having said that, I'd take another 0-0 against Chelsea no problem.
good post -
Its gonna take till january before we see benitez get in the players we need in key areas - CB,RW and up front but the signs are good
owen made his bed and I for one am glad we didn't pander to him ....if he had treated madrid the same way he had treated Liverpool he wouldn't be twiddling his thumbs in barcode land ...instead he showed what really means more to him and decide to jump for the barcodes to safe guard his eng ur land place
Forced to Sell a guy brought thru the ranks for 8 mill and being held to ransom 12 months of bench sitting later for double the price ...thanks be to F that theres still fools like the barcodes around
That's what you get when you put Freddy Shepard and Graeme Souness together. The fun hasn't even started yet though. Souness WILL be sacked. Even a blind man could see that it's Alan Shearers job in all but name already. Owen will also leave next season, that is if he performs well and attracts interest at £12m. I can still see him ending up at Liverpool, Utd or Arsenal - with the latter two there's no guarantee that Van Horseface or Henry will remain at their current clubs beyond next seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by redgav
I've no respect for barcodes ..in all fairness ,what better sign can you give that you are a small time club than havin 20,000 pay in to see a bloodty transfer signing ?!?!?!!?Quote:
Originally Posted by 4tothefloor
He'll leave em in the summer as soon as anyone big comes in , not sure now If liverpool ever will approach him again after this ...thats the second time he's faffed about now ...Rafa was trying to playhard ball with madrid ,and if owen hadn't been so worried about his eng gurland place ,real would have caved in and he's be at anfield now ,instead he panicked and ran to shearer and co
Lot of hard core lads are finished with him after that and any support he did have has all but dwindled to the You'reonskysports/newstalk mobs
Should be a interesting January for the redmen tho , Benitez has really cracked the whip with transfer negotioations ....can't wait till this portugese lad signs and we get a visa for the other south american fella
shhhh lads jaysus dont let "you know who" read such blasphomy about michael owen!!!! :D
Nah, couldn't keep up, more like!!Quote:
Originally Posted by 4tothefloor
Delusional? :confused:Quote:
You're delusional because you've just compared us to Real Madrid, AC Milan and Chelsea. Clubs who regularly win their domestic title (Chelsea aside, but not for long), and clubs who have potloads of money regardless of how they perform. In case you haven't noticed, we haven't won the title in 15 years.....yet we should all of a sudden expect to have the same mentality as the aforementioned clubs?
We are European Champions. European Champions should be in contention for every competition they enter, and every effort should be made so that we can challenge for every trophy available, be it the League Championship, or League Cup. With our talent, money spent, and resources available, it is not unrealistic for us to expect to challenge for trophies, and possess a winning mentality. I feel that in general, this is not happening. Our domestic results prove it. 1st place is for winners, 2nd place and below, is for also-rans.
More negativity. :rolleyes: We've dropped enough points already, we need to start getting 3 points. It shows how far we have fallen domestically, that we're happy with getting 0-0 draws at home. Wonder who's fault that is?Quote:
I think four clean sheets is impressive against these sides, lets see if the goals will flow in the next few weeks. Having said that, I'd take another 0-0 against Chelsea no problem.
Reina was completely to blame for the one point donation to Birmingham on Saturday, at fault for both goals. Carson may get a re call.
Everton had enough chances to draw with Wigan but are looking a very poor team at the moment and are currently propping up the Premiership.
FOR ANTO
Team Pld Pts
1. Chelsea 7 21
2. Charlton 6 15
3. Bolton 7 14
4. West Ham 6 11
5. Man United 6 11
6. Man City 7 11
7. Arsenal 6 10
8. Wigan 6 10
9. Tottenham 6 9
10. Newcastle 7 8
11. Middlesbro 7 8
12. Blackburn 7 8
13. Liverpool 5 7
14. Birmingham 7 6
15. A Villa 7 6
16. Fulham 6 5
17. Portsmouth 7 5
18. West Brom 7 5
19. Sunderland 7 4
20. Everton 6 3
:D :D and thrice :D
and i hope you were over at it as well!
:D
To counter that tho , that shot he saved with his legs ,theres no way dudek or kirkland wopuld have made itQuote:
Originally Posted by razor
Jury is still out on him for me , some games he makes a blooper (that hasn't really cost yet) and then follows it up with a stunning save (a la Betis) and to be fair , those were the first goals conceded in the league this season !!!!
On a funnier point ...a few snippets from our bitter blew neighbours
afetr the Uefa cup hammering ,Gollum( moyes) was pinned to the wall by tampon man( ferguson) over a argument caused by gollum not putting in the tampon man earlier (apparently he'd been warming up for 20 mins) ...now seems from reports that gollum has lost the dressing room
Also Everton have released a nw version of their "catchy" t-shirt range
New Everton t-shirt
what utter rubbish if dunc had done that he'd be shown the door the next day . moyes doesnt stand for that kinda thing he is the boss every one knows that , if there was a shred of truth in that the fans would have dunc kicked out of the club ,everton ledgend or not moyes has the total support of every fanQuote:
Originally Posted by redgav
Are you really sure of that ???Quote:
Originally Posted by anto1208
This story has originated in toffeeweb
toffeeweb !! printing a negative story about everton never !! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by redgav
ive never come across such a negative moaning bunch of so called fans all they do is knock the club the board the manager the fans .
belive me if that was true he'd be gone , rooney had a bust up with moyes 7 days later he was a utd player , and he is the best player in england .
moyes has the full support of every everton fan while big dunc who has sat on the bench collecting 35,000 a week for the last few seasons doesnt
LMFAO :pQuote:
Originally Posted by declan hide
Reina has been class this season, just 'cos he made a few mistakes doesn't warrant being dropped. Warnock ballsed up for the first goal, no defender should head the ball like that across his own goal. He's inexperienced, he made a mistake, so what? Reina was at fault for the second, but again you can't ignore how solid he has been up to now.
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Originally Posted by anto1208
I said to me mate in work this mornin when I poste this that teh first thing you'd do when you replied would be to diss the members of toffeeweb as being kids ....man was I on the ball
So ,toffeeweb members who Live in LIVERPOOL , break the story of moyes ,and their wrong ,but you ,finger on the pulse in ???? somewhere in
Ireland i presume, and yet even tho it is a EFC forum ,they must not be fans then !!!!
Expect the first gollum out campaign to start in November
By the way , for all the hype an bull over europe ,and all wee luvvie kens yappin, a lousy 10k tickets sold only, they actually had some birds in liverpool town centre this mornin tryin to give away tickets :D
oh and as for gollum,you ever hear the storys from his last club?? same thing happened ...LOST the dressing room,and was man handled by a player...maybe its cos he's ginger :p
...on it goes. We finally discovered where the net is at Birmingham, but as soon as we did, the Liverpool of last season returned, and we conceded 2 goals in 3 minutes. An equaliser followed, but then Crouch has the chance to show us why we bought him and win it, only to head the ball over the bar unmarked, from 6 yards. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
Meanwhile, RB reject MO scores once again for his club and they win again. 3 games, 2 goals, 2 victories, and 8 points. That's what paying €25 million gets you, and puts them above us in the table. As for RB pet Crouch; paying €11 million has got us no goals, by the end of September. Who was the better signing? No contest!!
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Originally Posted by mypost
So instead of having strikers that want to play for Liverpool FC and fit the style that Rafa wants,you prefer to fork out twice what we got for a striker LFC brought up , a striker who has both eyes firmly focussed on engurland ??
from the general consensus of your post , seems to me that you are one of these modern breed of football fans ,the I want it now brigade ...its been 5 games , thats all , 5 games ,and in that 5 FIVE games , they've picked up 3 draws , from games we lost last season !!!
If you had Crouch and owen at the same price ,then yes , Owen would be the preferred choice , but I'm glad benitez wasn't dictated to by someone who was so desperate for a club (that he'd go to barcodes) just so he wouldn't lose his Engurland place ...in his own words , he admitted that his last two years at Anfield he was "going through the motions" .....just what we need , a return to the Evans /Houllier Cliques days
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Originally Posted by redgav
Colm Kavanagh the main moaner on the site is i irish a long with a few more there are definetly a few ,one or 2 may live in liverpool but they dont have any connections to the team the blue kipper boys do .
what kind of fans site would undermine moyes at this time by releasing such a story even if its true or not .
now if you had said it was on blue kipper or when sky's are grey or even on the blue room then i would have belived it had some truth in it .but its one of the gems toffeeweb put out like rooney will sign a new deal at everton exclusive (then he joined utd 2 days later )
they complain that bill wont give money even though we spent 25+million since xmas .
if this is true that they printed this story i havent seen it then they are a stupid shower , moyes is the best manager in the league as voted for by his peers . did that suddenly change in 3 months ?? no of course not
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Originally Posted by anto1208
You need to sit down , If the room starts spinning call a doctor ,but I'd recommend a stiff drink to be honest ,. maybe a brandy or something
Where to start ???
Bluekipper !!!!!!! Are you for real :eek: ....its a joke , the guys that run in are ok(ish) but ffs , reading that forum is like something out of the dark ages ...red****e this that and the other , and racist remarjks like you wouldn't believe ...full of kids ...WSAG is the best one out there but BK ......
As for them all being Irish ..... funny that , I met a load of em in the cabbage for the derby and they had the best scouse accents ever ,same at the HJC footie games , best (fake !!! :D ) scouse accents ever ...
As for this lark of "voted for by his peers" as some sort of be all and end all of a argument HAHA
3 years ago it was that scottish fella from ipswich that got it ,despite Houllier winning a treble ...theres credibility of "voting by peers" for ya
The sooner evertonians wake up the better ...all this Moyesiah crap ,and him and the luvvie mouthing off in the press ,hard cold facts are staring you in the face ...look at yer last 30 games.pre xmas last season ye did very well , but from xmas , or more specifically,when uncle fester was sold to madrid ,( sold or ran so fast he was still in his shower gel :D ) the form you had was terrible and you limped over the 4th place line , now this season,you've lost what 8 games ??? and after losing 1 or 2 players which he didn't bother replacing ...thats a hell of a poor run and in all seriousness, if it wasn't for Liverpools inability to get a win away , and newcastle being ..........well newcastle , was what got you fourth ...don't get me wrong , table doesn't lie etc abnd you deserved to be there , but gollum ,instead of playing it down a bit and keeping expectationjs in check instead goes and builds up all the expectations with this "we can win it crap"
First Moyes out Chant by November , you might be saved from relegation by those around you tho , few weak teams there this season
you are talking about benitez. say it to yourself - benitez. then outloud - benitez. show me any other manager whos better than him. benitez knows what hes doing. and we'll see it believe me.Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
first i didnt say they were irish i said one was and probibly a few more .Quote:
Originally Posted by redgav
secondly we played badly with grav in the team in december and january then he left ( also for 4 years before he had his 4 months of good games )
loosing players and not replacing them can you explain that
out pistone left back
in valente left back
out stubbs centre back
in ferrari centre back
out watson right midfeild
in davies right midfield
out grav central midfield
in artetta neville central midfield
dont try to talk to an evertonian about everton when you dont have a clue what your on about .
also a forum full of kids of course it is its the internat mainly used by kids this forum is full of kids . is that were the story came from ?? a forum and you belive it
still have nt seen any shred of proof about this story , and i knew about the gazza incedent the rooney bust up , the neville deal , the robbie keane meetings before any one else did . so if it was true id know
Apart from 1 save in the Super Cup final and a save with his legs from Heskey I can't remember anything decent he has done.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4tothefloor
For the first goal Reina could have called for the ball, Warnock didn't know what was behind him Reina did. plus he came for the initial corner and made a mess of that which led to the cross for the goal. He is far too quick off his line which cost us a goal in the Super Cup final and nearly gifted Van Horsehead a goal against Utd last week.
His judgement is suspect and has shown me nothing to say he is worth the money Liverpool paid for him.
He may turn out to be great and I hope he does but with 2 huge games coming up he could be the weakest link.
Now that you've finished chastising me , does the fact that you yet again completly ignored my comments on your relegation form as being a silent nod ;) ????Quote:
Originally Posted by anto1208
You may have played the odd game badly with fester in the team but you played a helluva lot worse without him....have you looked at yer last 30 games ??
Re loosing players ...the word "adequatly" was omitted...
So I don't have a clue what I'm talking about cos I have a different opinion to you but I should kneel in awe at your self proclaimed "I'm mr EFC and I know" title .ffs grow up a bit ..Its a bit of banter , It's not as If I insulted your manhood or something .I take it you also knew about the club in their rush to get more fans yesterday were giving away/selling tickets for £15 depite selling the same ones for £25 to st holders ?!?!?!
And just to revise ,cos it seems you must've missed the paragraph in your rush to tell me how wrong I was ..."met a load of em in the cabbage for the derby and they had the best scouse accents ever ,same at the HJC footie games , best (fake !!! ) scouse accents ever"
bit different from " and you believe it " ehh
Glad you mentioned Robbie Keane ....bluekipper is so insightfull that some of the regulars were actually blaming LFC not selling cisse for Keane not going to youse :D
On a plus side , The Momo Sissoko sure is some player ...pity about that one :p
i didnt miss that pargraph about you meeting them in fact my first answer was in refrence to that i said i that they arent all irish at least one is if not more .Quote:
Originally Posted by redgav
god your getting worse the that mypost fella what is wrong with ye reds .banter is having a laugh using facts not just picking stuff out of the air that you just made up .
on grav, again ill say he had 1/2 a ok season . he played rubbish for 4 years .remember we finished 17th with him in the team
it not an opinion you are giving you are claiming things like moyes sold players with out replacing them i just pointed out all the players he sold and all the players he replaced them with . its not opinion its fact .
and again with this giving away tickets nonsence , they are still 25 quid today what did they put the price back up !!
http://www.evertonfc.com/splash/dinamo-home/main.php (proof)
you seem to spend a lot of time on everton websites , is there something wrong with your own or are you just one of these sad people that go into everton forums make up rubbish to try to wind people up ........ so very very sad ........ and you tell me to grow up
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Originally Posted by anto1208
God ,you Bs fans ...get so uppety every time someone criticises yer little world :D
where in any of the posts did I say that the club were offering them at discount online ???hmmmmmm
read again what I said .Just so its clear ,cos there seems to be a lot that you are scanning over ;)
They were selling the tickets IN the City centre with 2 birds dressed in EFC gear and were offering them to people for £15 . If you don't believe me , why not ring one Ian Ross or someone , you know , the ones that give you all your scoops ..maybe they'll let you know all about it
Or why not go on to blukipper , afterall ,they are the ones that started this negative efc thread that was copied to loads of LFC sites .And man are they hammering the club for it .Imagine it , wee luvvie is so obsessed with getting some extra sheckles in that he'd actually screw over his more loyal fanbase just to get a few extr discounted seat in there ...some of your felow supporters are spitting blood over it
Moyes sold 3 players that were established ,and were playing above themselves cos they were looking for new contracts elswhere , he has not "adequetly"(another word you missed :D ) replaced them.He may have actually bought replacements but they are not even close to what you got rid of
As for spending time on efc sites , You've just copied a post where I put in bold type that I meet them and played football against them, what does that suggest ???? ....is that really the best retort you can come up with ??? to call me sad for being mates with some efc fans.Besides , as you know well, anything like that will end up on a lfc site within minutes just like the same happens in reverse
you lads dont half talk some schite!!!! Youre getting WORSE than mypost and his michael owen love dolls. can we not get back to the discussion of saying "Youre muck!" and replying with " No YOURE muck!!"
i dont mind people having a go at everton other posters on here do it .im not getting pi ssed off with you slagging everton im getting pi ssed of with you making up lies in a pure attempt to wind me up !!Quote:
Originally Posted by redgav
the box office charge 25, every ticket agent charges 25, the club says they cost 25 . but you know of 2 birds selling ticket for 15 give me a break .
adequetly replacing players : selling 1 player buying 2 for that position is adequet . are you suggesting that selling a 34 year old and replacing him with 2 quality defenders in there 20's isnt good enough .
i thought you read efc forums because you said "reading that forum" .about blue kipper . how did i get the idea that you read the forum.........surely my fault !!
and you also referenced toffeeweb who you said you met for the derby , so not in the last few weeks as in after the event in question happened !!! (also dont belive something a guy down the pub tells you )
any way im not going to reply anymore as its clear you dont know what your on about and its just a poor wind up .
:cool: Great to see the best thread ever put on foot.ie still flying high!
The blues are struggling at the minute but i'm sure the revival will commence at Man City next sunday. After all the only way is up now!
You're pricelessQuote:
Originally Posted by anto1208
As i said , go check yer proclaimed best site bluekipper and then come back and direct all kisses to me backsie region ...
http://bluekipper.net/everton_forum/...ic.php?t=44477
http://bluekipper.net/everton_forum/...ic.php?t=44581
I await you're response with baited breathe...its not often a RS is more "in the know" than a BS :D
you're only coddin yourself :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Dillo
there is only one way for everton this year and its not up im afraid :eek:
lol :pQuote:
Originally Posted by jockser
And jaysus if it isn't Dillo, who's suddenly climbed out of the bunker he's been hiding in since we won the CL..... :D