I think both would have a problem with that, not to mention O'Neill. His salary in both roles would be significant enough for both parties to say no way to double jobbing.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
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I think both would have a problem with that, not to mention O'Neill. His salary in both roles would be significant enough for both parties to say no way to double jobbing.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
For you it's probably the lesser of 2 evils for Keane to be involved in the irish backroom, rather that at the helm of Celtic.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
But there is clearly some amount of displeasure from O'Neill about what has transpired. If Keane by some chance did not get the Celtic job, you would presume that there's an amount of defrosting to do.
I hope he gets the job to stop the 'will he, won't he?' conversation that will surround any job vacancies that arise. Better for us if O'Neill brings his own people on board who will work with him and not create ongoing conjecture. Also, Keane's personality and persona have a tendency to overshadow teams he coaches, personally I would rather read about the players than the management!
Departure confirmed here
It looks like he has told the squad already. I'm sick of these mercenaries treating the Irish team as some sort of sinecure until the first half-decent coaching job abroad comes along. Good riddance.
Is it a big problem?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
It was a joke actually. Did you open the link?
Pretty much. Keane's presence will always encourage a media circus and it will never stop. As much as I would roll my eyes at Keane walking out after only a few months, better the position go to someone far more low-key now, before qualifying starts in earnest.Quote:
Originally Posted by gastric
I saw a comment on another forum (RTE or Irish Times, can't remember) that it could be a good role for Chris Hughton. Wes might not agree though!
according to the Indo, it's not going to happen: http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-30322137.html
From tetsujin's link:Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
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It is understood Celtic had made Keane a formal offer but in the end, the 42-year-old decided to see out his commitment with the national team.
Does Keane need to be replaced. If Walford & Guppy are coming on board permanently then why would we need another person.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
Breaking news on SSN as I type. Keane wants to stay with Ireland/Celtic prefer Steve Clarke
Edit: Just seen tets Indo link.
We're all on the one road, again.
Official confirmation from the FAI's twitter feed: https://twitter.com/FAIreland/status...52750807003136
So. You got the antifreeze ready...Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
:rolleyes:
Im delighted hes staying, he looks like he starting to have an influence over the midfielders anyway judging by this article http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-30321236.html
Hopefully it might put an end to this "he walked out on his country" rubbish anyway.
Stupid comments regarding demotion to the u21's and being taken off at half time against Spain. Really misleading. I felt a sense of deja vu reading it, like some of those comments were just recycled from a previous article.
Yep, I'm glad he's staying too, although I hope the Irish press now start focusing on the team rather than its assistant manager. DeLorean had a very good point about Keane and the media circus that goes with him.
From a pure PR perspective, Keane going to Celtic would just further have underpinned the relative demise of the national team's status versus the big British clubs. It'd almost be a double whammy. The BIG can barely compete with Keane or Celtic for attention, let alone Celtic managed by Keane.
Now come on, pull together, work hard and get us to the Euros.
Yeah well I don't mind really. There are pros and cons, but the way it has worked out is fairly uplifting, a real sense of dedication after weighing up what is important. It actually feels more like a victory this way than if he had just ruled it out from the outset. Hype might not necessarily be a bad thing either, despite my reservations. We've been seriously lacking in that regard over the past few campaigns and even if it is directed towards Keane more than the team, at least it keeps them in the limelight indirectly. The headline on BBC reads "Keane turns down Celtic for Ireland". It's a tad inaccurate to be fair but nice to see all the same :)
Aye, everyone's happy!
:)
For now.
It seems to me that Celtic put out feelers for a few managers- Roy being one. The media in Ireland and the UK ran with it due to the publicity Keano attracts and maybe we were led to believe the approach was more concrete than it was. I mean, he hasn't exactly been flush with management offers since departing Ipswich. Plus, Celtic are likely to go with a more financially prudent and astute manager. Roy has gone through a few scattergun, stock-piling phases at Ipswich and Sunderland with very, very differing results in terms of the performances of the signings and their longevity at the clubs.
Anyway, delighted he's staying put. I hope this coaching ticket stays in place until the end of the qualification for Euro 2016- at which point if Roy got a decent offer then I'd wish him all the best.
The key phrase:-Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
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"I'm not taking a pay cut for anybody."
I reckon celtic have gone for someone else and Roy was given the chance to come out as though he turned it down
Yep, I reckon that's true. But it is what is now. Onwards and upwards.
That was a tongue in cheek joke though.Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
Very possible Paul. It's probably possible also that MON told him to decide one way or the other before the US trip. He decided to keep the job he has instead of taking a chance on a job he might or might not get. The most important thing is that it's been sorted out fairly quickly and everybody can move on.
Possibly Keane was shafted at the altar but I doubt it, Desmond wanted him and that means Celtic wanted him. What Desmond wants, he usually gets.
Like most, I'm happy enough with Keane staying on in a deputy role.
I wonder what the touchline language will be about for the next 2 games.
Apparently RMK also linked with the Villa asst.manager job too...just heard a BBC sports bulletin.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...-keane-3638096
http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-30322137.html
Looks like he could 'do' both, personally not bothered either way...
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/spor...-frame-7206442
If he's going to be linked with jobs all summer he can go ahead and quit. Either come out now and say you're seeing out your contract or leave and make yourself available for clubs.
Calm down. It's the Mirror. And the Indo. Check mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Yeah, The Mirror piece looks particularly dubious...
"MirrorSport understands O’Neill’s assistant is reluctant to walk out on his country again, following his infamous bust-up at the 2002 World Cup."
For it to work he would have to be on less at Ireland.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
It would be worth him staying at Ireland for a number of reason, he seems to get on
well with O'Neil and he can learn a lot about management from him as he has so much experience.
Also Ireland is a much safer bet, Celtic are on a high, Ireland at a low there is more
room for success at Ireland and a lot of room for failure at Celtic.
Not saying it will happen, but the BBC reporter seemed quite impassioned earlier. So 50-50 chance OF THIS I reckon. Or something similar.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
As long as he never manages Ireland, he can have as many jobs as he likes IMO...
Keane to Villa seems to have legs, being reported in a lot of different places now.
Cant see how he can do both job effectively. Id say O'Neill will get ****ed off very quick if this keeps going on. I was delighted that he didnt leave to go to Celtic and I thought that was going to be the end of it, at least in the short term, to hear another story like this so quickly is very frustrating.
After turning down Celtic I thought we would at least get one campaign out of him before he moves on to a managers job. Taking the Villa assistant job doesnt make any sense to me if it happens. The club is up for sale and new owners might not even want Lambert in the job.
I will repeat what I said before, let him go. His personality and persona will continue to dominate and take away what should be the main focus - the Irish team.
Why would Celtic potentially pi$$ off their new manager by allowing Keane to pretend he was chosen but turned it down?Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
It certainly suits RMK...The reality will probably turn out to be somewhat different, given time?
Keane to Villa
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...c-manager.html
From Daily Mail, the newspaper of choice for fascists.
I don't get it? The way it's phrased on bbc doesn't suggest it was a joke at all...Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
It's on ssn now.stutts and I are going to a breakfast thing with oneill and Keane now.ill be sure to tell stutts to ask him and tell him Cop on.
so if it's true then I'd say he was rejected by celtic or this came in in the meantime like oneill had suggested at the weekend
ah it's as assistant maybe not then!
did you open the link I attached? It was an article about the NZ born Irish rugby forwards coach quitting to take up a plum job in South Africa.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu