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14/02/2011, 7:19 PM
paul_oshea

Will they though?
14/02/2011, 7:20 PM
shakermaker1982

'stand up if you hate the brits' is the worst thing folk can dig up on youtube about our fans? As Andy Gray used to say 'Wow, just wow'.
14/02/2011, 7:32 PM
osarusan

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Originally Posted by shakermaker1982

'stand up if you hate the brits' is the worst thing folk can dig up on youtube about our fans? As Andy Gray used to say 'Wow, just wow'.

In fairness, it was a response to an argument that Irish fans would never be so disrespectful.

And if the argument is that 'our idiots aren't as idiotic as your idiots', nobody's a winner.
14/02/2011, 7:32 PM
ArdeeBhoy

Except our fans aren't generally that disrespectful.
Nor they go through the farce of a campaign claiming 'Football For All', when the truth is somewhat different.

Short of forcing booze into them for days on end, it would be hard to match that level of stupidity, hopefully.

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

There are two "party tunes" in the clip.

I hope that's educational.

Too much information, NB.

Not your fault they're delusional, but would it ever be the day we could post even the lyrics of "The Fields of Athenry" on the Bigot Board??

And even if that happened, would doubtless be accompanied by the usual claims of 'mopery'.

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

The vast majority of people in this clip don't seem to have much "respect".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5EIWA2VZZs

If that's the best anyone could find in relation to the populace of a territory that's been illegally occupied for a nearly a millennium, may a higher power help them, FFS.
14/02/2011, 7:36 PM
ArdeeBhoy

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Originally Posted by Fixer82

That's not Ealing Green that's you. I'd recognise that haircut and ear-ring a mile away!

"A ledder from me to the government'' ha ha ha

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

Im pretty sure i recognise the fella from 23 seconds walking across the camera

Seems like EG has a few stalkers on here?? Who seem a little off the pace with their information....
;)

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Originally Posted by Mr_Parker

It does seem that names have been put to several of the individuals on that video and no doubt the IFA will take action in regards to them when it comes to future ticket distribution.

Maybe, but short of racial profiling of their, er, names and identities, what's to stop them buying tickets for the home end for the next game.

I say let them come, but if they misbehave.....
14/02/2011, 7:40 PM
boovidge

The ROI fans singing in the video are embarassing but they're not singing about murdering anyone because of their religion.
14/02/2011, 7:54 PM
SkStu

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Originally Posted by osarusan

In fairness, it was a response to an argument that Irish fans would never be so disrespectful.

And if the argument is that 'our idiots aren't as idiotic as your idiots', nobody's a winner.

I dont know Osa... i see a huge difference between the two incidents in all honesty. Is "stand up if you hate the Brits" sectarian and glorifying murder? Im not so sure it is.
14/02/2011, 8:01 PM
osarusan

As I said, it was posted a a response to a post saying that Irish fans would never lack respect. The post just points out an occasion where Irish fans were guilty of this.

To argue that "X isn't as bad as Y" is to miss the point, in my opinion.
14/02/2011, 8:10 PM
SkStu

i dont think it is. There are varying degrees of respect/disrespect and i think that to ignore the varying nature of something is failing to look at the whole picture. Otherwise we could end up having a standardised legal penalty whereby a person who steals a shirt from a store could receive the same prison sentence as someone who commits murder. Perhaps an extreme example but you can see my point.
14/02/2011, 8:15 PM
shakermaker1982

stand up if you hate Forest/Derby/County/Chelsea/ x y z etc etc is heard up and down the country in every football ground in England about 15 times a game. It's not even in the same ball park as that Aviva stadium rubbish. Type in 'Northern Ireland fans singing' over on YouTube and it gets a bit more interesting.

I can safely say that in all the home and away games I've been to our fans have been impeccable behaviour wise. I'm proud we don't really feature on the YouTube hall of shame.
14/02/2011, 8:21 PM
osarusan

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Originally Posted by SkStu

There are varying degrees of respect/disrespect and i think that to ignore the varying nature of something is failing to look at the whole picture.

But who is ignoring this varying nature?

In response to a post arguing the Irish fans never fail to show respect, he's pointing out an example of where this has happened. Nowhere has he said the two incidents are equal, or compared them in any way. It is the posters who are arguing that X isn't as bad as Y who are implying that he did make such a comparison suggesting the two were equal.
14/02/2011, 8:42 PM
ifk101

In other news ....

Hat-trick for Daniel Kearns tonight.

Call him up Trapattoni. ;)
15/02/2011, 8:49 AM
Not Brazil

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Originally Posted by ifk101

Hat-trick for Daniel Kearns tonight.

I was at the game - Kearns was exceptional. Looks like a player who will play at a higher level when he matures.

Dundalk fans were great too - cept the small minority in their number who spouted sectarian bile relating the the IRA.
15/02/2011, 9:08 AM
co. down green

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Originally Posted by Mr_Parker

It does seem that names have been put to several of the individuals on that video and no doubt the IFA will take action in regards to them when it comes to future ticket distribution.

From reading the ni fans forum it would seem that many of those involved in the sectarian singing in the video are members of ni supporters clubs and not day-trippers or sectarian event junkies. Also interesting to read the comments of fans on the events around Bath avenue, with fire extinguishers being fired through pub windows and the place totally trashed.
15/02/2011, 9:38 AM
OwlsFan

Can't we all just get along?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/46/13...9da8ef2810.jpg
15/02/2011, 10:40 AM
ifk101

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

I was at the game - Kearns was exceptional. Looks like a player who will play at a higher level when he matures.

A chap of his age that is a first team player for one of the stonger LOI sides will attract cross channel interest. It sounds like Dundalk will do well to hold onto him.
15/02/2011, 11:09 AM
ArdeeBhoy

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Originally Posted by osarusan

But who is ignoring this varying nature?

In response to a post arguing the Irish fans never fail to show respect, he's pointing out an example of where this has happened.

The people who're ignoring it are those making an issue of a totally invalid comparison....

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

I was at the game

Dundalk fans were great too - cept the small minority in their number who spouted sectarian bile relating the the IRA.

....where NB has a point. And not aimed at him or anyone? on here, but there is and always will be a certain level of hypocrisy making such claims. Supported by CDG's contributions to the debate.
15/02/2011, 11:19 AM
Not Brazil

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Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

....where NB has a point. And not aimed at him or anyone? on here, but there is and always will be a certain level of hypocrisy making such claims. Supported by CDG's contributions to the debate.

No hypocrisy on my part AB.

I don't engage in sectarian chanting, and deplore those who do. Whatever side of the fence they hail from.
15/02/2011, 11:46 AM
ArdeeBhoy

I know. That's why I used the word 'not' in the post above.

Impressed by your knowledge of the lyrics though a couple of pages back though....
15/02/2011, 11:48 AM
Not Brazil

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Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

Impressed by your knowledge of the lyrics though a couple of pages back though....

Google is a wonderful thing.;)
15/02/2011, 2:31 PM
ArdeeBhoy

Take your word on that one, as don't think it's your scene....
15/02/2011, 5:21 PM
SolitudeRed

The vid of the NI fans singing their party tunes after the match was top story on the UTV evening news bulletin at 6 there.

Heres a link from the website...

http://www.u.tv/News/Anger-at-sectar...e-26eafb3c7ace

PS just noticed that the fans were singing 'hes deed' which is scottish parlance for 'hes dead' I presume! quite ironic given that Scotland were the opposing team!
15/02/2011, 5:31 PM
paul_oshea

I wonder who emailed UTV :D
15/02/2011, 5:47 PM
SolitudeRed

A lot of Linfield fans (I presume) are leaving comments under the article about how bad Dundalk fans were last night one claiming they were burning a Union Jack? Any truth in that one?
15/02/2011, 7:47 PM
bullit

No union jack flags burned,plenty of flares lit though.
15/02/2011, 10:12 PM
eelmonster

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Originally Posted by SolitudeRed

A lot of Linfield fans (I presume) are leaving comments under the article about how bad Dundalk fans were last night one claiming they were burning a Union Jack? Any truth in that one?

No truth to that whatsoever.
15/02/2011, 10:19 PM
ArdeeBhoy

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Originally Posted by SolitudeRed

The vid of the NI fans singing their party tunes after the match was top story on the UTV evening news bulletin at 6 there.
PS just noticed that the fans were singing 'hes deed' which is scottish parlance for 'hes dead' I presume! quite ironic given that Scotland were the opposing team!

Well to be fair to their numpties, many of them are direct descendants of lowland Scots. :eek:
Doubtless our Larne correspondent will remind us they're only 13 miles away??

And correct with that presumption, though never heard such a pronunciation, except maybe from the 'Bible Belt' in N.Antrim around Ballymena....
16/02/2011, 12:00 AM
Flawless

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

I was at the game - Kearns was exceptional. Looks like a player who will play at a higher level when he matures.

Dundalk fans were great too - cept the small minority in their number who spouted sectarian bile relating the the IRA.

The majority of us were embarrassed by the sectarian chanting and the flare issues too, as they show disregard to both the other Dundalk fans and to the club itself who in normal circumstances would stand to be fined. (not sure if thats the case in the Setanta as ive heard contrary rumours)
All told though it was a memorable night, kudos to the PSNI too who did their job admirably. Really looking forward to the return in Oriel.

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Originally Posted by SolitudeRed

A lot of Linfield fans (I presume) are leaving comments under the article about how bad Dundalk fans were last night one claiming they were burning a Union Jack? Any truth in that one?

No truth whatsoever in this, Stewards of both clubs were in the Dundalk section, and Tricolours were even taken off Dundalk fans by our own stewards.
16/02/2011, 10:33 AM
Nesta99

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Originally Posted by SolitudeRed

A lot of Linfield fans (I presume) are leaving comments under the article about how bad Dundalk fans were last night one claiming they were burning a Union Jack? Any truth in that one?

Any chance of a link?
16/02/2011, 11:26 AM
ArdeeBhoy

Not the one he refers to above?
My Belfast contact told me there were some choice comments....though these could have been disabled/deleted?
16/02/2011, 11:38 AM
Not Brazil

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Originally Posted by SolitudeRed

A lot of Linfield fans (I presume) are leaving comments under the article about how bad Dundalk fans were last night one claiming they were burning a Union Jack? Any truth in that one?

I certainly didn't see any Union Flags being burnt.

Dundalk fans had a few flares which they lit, and some idiot threw one onto the playing surface, nearly hitting a ballboy. In fairness to the idiot who threw it, I don't think he was aiming at the ballboy.
16/02/2011, 12:07 PM
SolitudeRed

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Originally Posted by Nesta99

Any chance of a link?

The comments were left just under the article on the UTV website theres 138 comments at the moment it was the earlier ones that I read last night though.
16/02/2011, 12:12 PM
eelmonster

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

I certainly didn't see any Union Flags being burnt.

Dundalk fans had a few flares which they lit, and some idiot threw one onto the playing surface, nearly hitting a ballboy. In fairness to the idiot who threw it, I don't think he was aiming at the ballboy.

Total idiot, but there's absolutely no way he intended to throw it at the ball boy. I was standing near the front of the upper tier and you could just about see the ball boy dive out of the way below us, there's no way the guy who threw it from the back of the stand could have seen the ball boy. That's no excuse though, it was a stupid thing to do.
16/02/2011, 1:06 PM
bullit

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Originally Posted by bullit

No union jack flags burned,plenty of flares lit though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1HAV32Rc80
17/02/2011, 12:08 PM
Charlie Darwin

Did none of yous notice the big fire, no?
17/02/2011, 1:38 PM
gustavo

There's a Setanta Cup thread in the Premier Division/First Division section of the site if you want to continue this discussion there
19/02/2011, 6:27 AM
bullit

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Originally Posted by gustavo

There's a Setanta Cup thread in the Premier Division/First Division section of the site if you want to continue this discussion there

aye hitler
19/02/2011, 1:39 PM
Drumcondra 69er

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

You'll have to accept that some people think Bobby Sands was an odious individual, and would have zero "respect" for him or his mates in the organisation of which he was a member.

The House of Commons???? :confused:
19/02/2011, 2:58 PM
Gather round

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Originally Posted by Drumcondra 69er

The House of Commons???? :confused:

Sure, the same applies to any other paramilitaries elected there.
19/02/2011, 7:07 PM
ArdeeBhoy

As if.

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