Jamie O'Hara

it benefited france and holland the french can take players from the carribean and holland can get players from surinam. ruud guillet and edgar davis and jimmyfloud hassibank ect were born outside of holland. if a player is good enough he should be picked period. nocho novo can playfor scotland now he should be picked. if a player can play for us pick him end of story

Well I see the Irish team and playing for the country as the greatest honour a footballer can get. Just because you play a game or two for somebodies first team,cant get a game for England or happen to qualify through some relative you never met shouldnt be enough. O Hara and Ireland for that matter have done nothing but insult the football people of this country, Kitson has said numerous times he not Irish and doesnt want to play for us, Ferdinand is 100% English, Yet people here still talk about them for the country. I could go through 3/4 of the list but havent the time or energy. Some people actually think there is more to the Irish team than picking these rejects. No pride or self respect.

is clinton morrison irish? or matt holland? did clinton have a come get me plea to sven? i dont like it either i know the national anthem of ireland and can speak some irish too and would give my right arm to play for eire and to see some english guy play for us who has no connection to eire does bother me but it is football and if uefa allow this rule then we shoud exploit it. i dont think a passport should be givin unless you know something abiut the country. but to win a football match we neede to pick anyone who can play for us no matter where they were born.

Your missing the point fella its not an Irish, English thing. Its chasing after very average players or players who think playing for Ireland is either a joke,a hassle or a career move.

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Originally Posted by osarusan

As John 83 said, you will have to register their births. My daugher was born in Japan but is automatically an Irish citizen due to me being born in Ireland. If she has children in the future, she'll have to register them for citizenship (if they're born outside Ireland of course). Interestingly, as long as they are registered before they themselves have children, they can also register those children as Irish citizens. It could theoretically go on generation after generation.

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Side note but Alaistiar Cragg qualifies to run for Ireland under this. Think the last person born in ireland was 4/5 generations before him.

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Originally Posted by EalingGreen

I have never seen exactly how Bruce qualified for the FAI (nor why the FAI ever wanted him, for that matter!). But in any case, FIFA's Articles on Eligibility have been amended many times since his case, so any subsequent applicant must satisfy the criteria in force at the time of the application.

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Was there any part of FIFA's statutes that you could see with even the slightest degree of exactement?
In any case, the eligibility criteria, that Alex Bruce qualified under, has not changed, i.e. having a parent /grandparent born in the territory of the association is still referred to as having a parent /grandparent born the territory of the association.

Could you elaborate on your point. Name the players who you think playing for Ireland is a joke, a hassle or career move. With the exception of Stephen Aston Villa who no one understands, I can't think of anyone who meets your so called criteria.

According to todays Star, Hogan Ephraim (like Ciaran Clarke) is set to declare.

As a QPR fan, I will tell you this, hes class!!

If this happened where would you see him fitting into the squad Deckydee?

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Originally Posted by Deckydee

According to todays Star, Hogan Ephraim (like Ciaran Clarke) is set to declare.

As a QPR fan, I will tell you this, hes class!!

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That the Irish or English Star? I wouldn't have too much faith in the English one.

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Originally Posted by AlaskaFox

That the Irish or English Star? I wouldn't have too much faith in the English one.

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would you have more faith in the Irish Star?

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

would you have more faith in the Irish Star?

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A small bit more, but not loads. The English one costs about 20p though, so they can hardly employ good journalists.

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Originally Posted by AlaskaFox

A small bit more, but not loads. The English one costs about 20p though, so they can hardly employ good journalists.

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I wouldn't know much about their finances, but I reckon they get most of their money from advertising, not sales.

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Originally Posted by irishfan86

I wouldn't know much about their finances, but I reckon they get most of their money from advertising, not sales.

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The price of a newspaper rarely covers more than printing costs. Advertising is everything.

Great to see these lads declaring. The more options we have the better.

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Originally Posted by John83

The price of a newspaper rarely covers more than printing costs. Advertising is everything.

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Plus the English one sells in a country of 60 million as opposed to 5 million. And they don't pay VAT.

Cant say I know much about this guy, Hogan Ephraim. Anyone seen much of him play? What can of player is he?

our resident QPR fan, deckydee, says he is class.

For a forward/winger his goal rate is very poor. Obviously players are more than simply their goals but 6 goals in over 100 league appearances is pretty woeful.

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Originally Posted by irishfan86

For a forward/winger his goal rate is very poor. Obviously players are more than simply their goals but 6 goals in over 100 league appearances is pretty woeful.

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Could he be the Irish Heskey?

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Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton

If this happened where would you see him fitting into the squad Deckydee?

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He usually plays on the right side of a two player midfield, supporting the striker. Cant say where Trap could put him tbh. Warnock usually plays 4-3-2-1 and he seems to excel there.

Apparently Trap is going to the next QPR home game to have a look at him and Matt Conn olly.

Matt Connolly you'll remember was once called up but changed his mind at the last minute

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Originally Posted by Deckydee

Matt Connolly you'll remember was once called up but changed his mind at the last minute

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Yeah, it was when he was at Arsenal, was called into an U19 squad, but he pulled out and then played for the England U19s a few months later

Sunderland right-back Phil Bardsley has been handed his first Scotland call-up ahead of the Euro 2012 qualifier against Czech Republic.

I don't know if i missed this but on O'Hara's wikipedia it states

"He has declared his intention to play for the Republic of Ireland and is waiting for the FAI to make contact."

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Originally Posted by rebelmusic

I don't know if i missed this but on O'Hara's wikipedia it states

"He has declared his intention to play for the Republic of Ireland and is waiting for the FAI to make contact."

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that was cited from this article published on rte.ie last May: http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2010/0518/oharaj.html

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Originally Posted by bwagner

Sunderland right-back Phil Bardsley has been handed his first Scotland call-up ahead of the Euro 2012 qualifier against Czech Republic.

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I can't see the Tartan Army liking that one. His only Scottish connection is that his dad was born there on holiday

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

that was cited from this article published on rte.ie last May: http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2010/0518/oharaj.html

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Ah cited quite inaccurately then. Part of me assumed since he's obviously into himself based on his tweets that he'd keep an eye on his wiki as well.

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Originally Posted by rebelmusic

Ah cited quite inaccurately then. Part of me assumed since he's obviously into himself based on his tweets that he'd keep an eye on his wiki as well.

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Interesting. Somebody with the user name JamieforIreland added that citation on wikipedia last week.

yep...there could be more too it than meets the eye ifk

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Originally Posted by ifk101

Interesting. Somebody with the user name JamieforIreland added that citation on wikipedia last week.

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Where you seeing that ifk? Just saw an ip address which i resolved to minnesota.

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Originally Posted by rebelmusic

Where you seeing that ifk? Just saw an ip address which i resolved to minnesota.

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Couldn't find it either. :confused:

So the person who changed it to declared first wrote

"He has declared his intention to declare for the [[Republic of Ireland national football team|Republic of Ireland]] and is waiting for an Giovanni Trappatoni to make contact."

Then he changed Trap to Fai.

Ip address is not responding. The person who added the citation for this added the rte link. Their ip resolved to the University of Minnesota - so probably some wiki junkie who doesnt like seeing things added without citations and googled the rte link.

Wait resolving now -

83-70-109-118-dynamic.b-ras1.chf.cork.eircom.net

haha, dont think Jamie was using an eircom net connection in Cork in August. Prolly a false alarm so.

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Originally Posted by sean r

it benefited france and holland the french can take players from the carribean and holland can get players from surinam. ruud guillet and edgar davis and jimmyfloud hassibank ect were born outside of holland. if a player is good enough he should be picked period. nocho novo can playfor scotland now he should be picked. if a player can play for us pick him end of story

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Thats not the same - Gullit etc all grew up and learnt to play football in the country they represent and as such are representative of that country.If they'd been born in Holland and spent the rest of their life in Surinam I tend to doubt they'd have become world class footballers judging from Surinam's FIFA rankings.
If you base nationality on ancestral origins it becomes meaningless, everyone would just play for Gondwanaland. If Clark really wanted to play for Ireland he's have done so by now instead of waiting til England weren't picking him any more

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Originally Posted by Adrock

Thats not the same - Gullit etc all grew up and learnt to play football in the country they represent and as such are representative of that country.If they'd been born in Holland and spent the rest of their life in Surinam I tend to doubt they'd have become world class footballers judging from Surinam's FIFA rankings.
If you base nationality on ancestral origins it becomes meaningless, everyone would just play for Gondwanaland. If Clark really wanted to play for Ireland he's have done so by now instead of waiting til England weren't picking him any more

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He definitely had a shot with England - Ricky Sbragia reckons he's the best centre halves in the country for his age and he's extremely highly rated round Villa Park. Since it took Dunney Monster to alert the FAI and give him a call, it's far more likely he decided to switch because he actually wanted to play for Ireland. And his 'ancestral origins' are an Irish mum and a Scottish born Irish dad - it's hardly a stretch, like playing for 'Gondwanaland.'

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Originally Posted by Adrock

Thats not the same - Gullit etc all grew up and learnt to play football in the country they represent and as such are representative of that country.If they'd been born in Holland and spent the rest of their life in Surinam I tend to doubt they'd have become world class footballers judging from Surinam's FIFA rankings.
If you base nationality on ancestral origins it becomes meaningless, everyone would just play for Gondwanaland. If Clark really wanted to play for Ireland he's have done so by now instead of waiting til England weren't picking him any more

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He's been left out of one England squad in his life. not even the most committed wind up merchant could argue that he left in a huff because he wasn't being picked.

don't remember any of these arguments being directed at Shane Duffy even though he played youth football and accepted a callup to the senior squad of another association and actually did declare for us partly because of a fallout with the NI management.

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Originally Posted by ifk101

Interesting. Somebody with the user name JamieforIreland added that citation on wikipedia last week.

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Originally Posted by rebelmusic

Where you seeing that ifk? Just saw an ip address which i resolved to minnesota.

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Originally Posted by rebelmusic

So the person who changed it to declared first wrote

"He has declared his intention to declare for the [[Republic of Ireland national football team|Republic of Ireland]] and is waiting for an Giovanni Trappatoni to make contact."

Then he changed Trap to Fai.

Ip address is not responding. The person who added the citation for this added the rte link. Their ip resolved to the University of Minnesota - so probably some wiki junkie who doesnt like seeing things added without citations and googled the rte link.

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Originally Posted by rebelmusic

Wait resolving now -

83-70-109-118-dynamic.b-ras1.chf.cork.eircom.net

haha, dont think Jamie was using an eircom net connection in Cork in August. Prolly a false alarm so.

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holy carp, when did foot.ie join Anonymous??

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Originally Posted by Adrock

Thats not the same - Gullit etc all grew up and learnt to play football in the country they represent and as such are representative of that country.If they'd been born in Holland and spent the rest of their life in Surinam I tend to doubt they'd have become world class footballers judging from Surinam's FIFA rankings.
If you base nationality on ancestral origins it becomes meaningless, everyone would just play for Gondwanaland. If Clark really wanted to play for Ireland he's have done so by now instead of waiting til England weren't picking him any more

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Gondwanaland 0-2 Bongo Bongo Land

What's up with Jamie O'Hara, when is he due to be back in action?