This is the South African one I was talking about.
http://www.fussballtempel.net/Odi.jpg
http://i14.tinypic.com/4pp2xjn.jpg
Unfortunately, it won't be seeing any World Cup action this year...
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This is the South African one I was talking about.
http://www.fussballtempel.net/Odi.jpg
http://i14.tinypic.com/4pp2xjn.jpg
Unfortunately, it won't be seeing any World Cup action this year...
I don't exactly want to derail the thread so this will be the last odd one I post. It's the Bazeilles Municipal in France and I believe it's nigh on impossible to get a ticket for the big games, such is the compact design.
http://france.stades.free.fr/SITE/BI...altravaux1.JPG
They built that for Euro 2004, it's built into an unused quarryQuote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Hadn't been aware of that. That's pretty cool. Who would have thought an unused quarry could be converted into something so spectacular?Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
The architect.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
All in all I think it will be a tough place for teams to come in and play.
A little off topic but found the following clips on the Pathe film website - the 1949 game in Goodison and the 1964 game in Dalymount (very different to the new Lansdowne Road.....
http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=27131
http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=43285
although not affected to the same extent as lansdowne, the millenium stadium in cardiff is restricted at one end due to the presence of the old Cardiff rugby club.Quote:
Originally Posted by MuckaTucka
only building on a green field site can gaurantee a proper four sided stadium. would far rather the stadium we have in a decent part of town for atmosphere etc than having to go to the middle of nowhere where there are no pre / post match facilities etc for our stadium (eg abbotstown)
Is the 3 sides and one small piece at the end of the stadium a metaphor for the 3 provences of the country and the 4th one up north thats not fully all ours at the moment but we hope some day we might be able to take it over and make the country bigger :)
Aviva are recording a short film in the stadium for advertising purposes, and are looking for extras to fill in for crowd scenes on thursday 27th, PM me for details if you're interested
My first game at it. Pity that at one end there is only a small number of seats as it does take away from the overall effect of the stadium but I am aware of the reasons for this.
Organisation wasn't great as it took me a while to find out exactly where entrance F was - perhaps that was just me not reading the instructions. Huge queues for the loo - don't remember that at Croker. Two screens a bit smaller than at Croker.
They are the negatives. The rest is obviously positive. Even with just the singing section making noise, they could be heard all over the ground. I am looking forward to the competitive games when the noise should be phenominal. I was in the lower West and the view was great. I wonder what it was like elsewhere.
A huge number of stewards at the end. Seemed a bit of an overkill.
We lost but if my memory serves me right we had a bad start at Lansdowne as well. Hopefully, we'll kick off with a win for the first competitive game.
Is there no place for a flag pole? The players faced a flag stuck on the roof as far as I could see or was it flying elsewhere with the Argentinian flag.
The flags were hung from the roof alright; looked a bit silly, but I don't know where there's space really.
I liked the old Lansdowne - think it had character - and generally dislike modern grounds for being uniform, bland constructions (the Liberty Stadium in Swansea is awful, for example). I'm in the middle on this one though. The dip on the North Terrace gives it something identifiable, and it does look well from the outside. Not as good as what it replaced in my opinion (aside from capacity), but it's not bad either.
Anyone else think the toilets were a problem? huge queues to get in and out.
A couple of the lads in work were at it, one had seats behind one of the corner flags and said view was OK at best, the other 2 were in upper East stand I think and they said they had a very badly obstructued view and couldn't see the goal at one end at all without standing up (I think they were behind a railing).
After quite a bit of debate with my mates over the last few years over the Croke Park atmosphere issue - I personally didn't think the atmosphere last night was much different to any of the friendlies in Croke Park. I always felt people made too big an issue of the relation between the atmosphere and the pitch being a little further away in Croker. By and large the meaning of the game (competitive v friendly), the performance of a team and the willingness of supporters to be bothered to sing are the crucial factors to contributing towards a noisey atmosphere inside a stadium. The France and Italy games last year showed that Croke Park can be deafening for football when the above factors come into play.
However, I do think the new Lansdowne has the potential to be even louder due to the design of the roof, etc. Wins against Andorra and Armenia and the Russia game will be rocking if we manage to take the game to them.
Yep, I was to the left on East stand upper. My view was highly obstructed by a metal barrier and the fact that I was right beside the section entrance.Quote:
Originally Posted by passinginterest
just to add to the thread, I had a purple ticket for the East Stand Upper, so instead of walking the few hundred yards down Lansdowne Road to the turnstile N, I had to continue down Shelbourne Road, cross the bridge, and come back in Beatty's Avenue to cross Herbert bridge. This added about 15 pointless minutes to the trip to the stadium.
Does anyone know why this route was changed, and will it be changed back??
I was in the upper tier of the west stand and in row W which is at least half way up.
I have to say my view of the pitch was fine. However, my view of the 2 screens was completely obstructed. Had to stand/lean to see the screens through gaps in the metal beams.
Compared to what preceded it the stadium is fantastic, however the roof is quite poor really. By supporting the roof from below instead of above they sacrificed the sightlines of spectators in favour of the aesthetics of the exterior. I think that was a serious mistake.
My uncle was at the rugby opener and had similar complaints about the impaired view. Are the upper tiers especially steep? He suggested they were a health and safety hazard and the whole thing had been done on the cheap. Or a poor job done at a rip-off price even. I've heard complaints about the long walk to the ground as well. My uncle was especially critical of the fact that huge crowds are forced to squeeze through a dangerously claustrophobic tunnel on their approach to the ground. From what I've read of last night, little has been done to alleviate any of this since the rugby opener.
Presumably it was changed to equalise the flow of spectators coming from 4 directions and cut down on crowding. The large numbers on Lansdowne Road, particularly when the rail barriers were down were an obvious problem in the old stadium.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
On the basis this entrance is on all the printed maps, I'd say thats the way it will stay. If you're coming from town, you've certainly got the short straw. But for those leaving their car in Sandymount/Ringsend etc. its a handy way in.
I presume there's no way to walk down the Dodder from Bath Avenue bridge along the new Red route and then skirt round to the Purple entrance?
No worse than Croke Park from what I remember of the one time I was in the upper tier there.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
I was 5-10 rows from the back in the Upper East at the South penalty box and the view was great though it took a little time to get used to looking down on the pitch like that. The roof beams didn't block the pitch though they did get in the way of the screens a bit.
Not as bonkers as when Robbie scored against Germany in Kashima, how no one broke their necks I dont know.Quote:
Are the upper tiers especially steep? He suggested they were a health and safety hazard
[/QUOTE]The dip on the North Terrace gives it something identifiable, and it does look well from the outside.[/QUOTE]
Reminds me of the last swimming gala I was at.
Can't wait for as real match to see the place rockin. One complaint only, thousands had to use one stairs to leave the ground afterwards. Anybody know if this was poor stewarting or bad design? Overall excellent!.
long walk?? I think we are actually spoilt when it comes to how easy it is to get to the stadium from the city centre. far easier than the likes of stade de france, amsterdam arena, any stadium i was in at WC 2002 etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
the roof steel is below the roof as if it was on top the height would be far greater and planning would have been impossible.
the stadium was tendered I am sure so the price would have been competitive at the time. it is actually very well specified with lots of great features for fans and players alike. was most certainly not done ”on the cheap”.
we now have the top class stadium we craved for years in a super location but still we find things to complain about. we really are a nation of moaners
Thought the stadium was great.
West Stand Upper, in the last block nearest the North stand - View was great. Probably a slightly obstructed view of the screen at that end but no issue, as I had a full unobstructed view of the screen at the Lansdowne end.
Approach from Murrays Pub on Bath Ave was fine - no queues. Up the escalator and in to the ground with no issues, bought a programme easy enough with no queues, had a slash pre and post match - no queues (didnt venture down at Half Time).
All in all thought it was great and look forward to having a few competitive games there where the atmosphere will be better (though well done to the ybig crowd in the SS for their efforts)
Did I mention I never experienced any queues?
Cop on. If something is wrong then it should be voiced. Simple fact is, the stewarding and the whole ticket colour/route process last Wednesday was a disaster.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
Don't shoot the messenger. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
I accept your points, although he did say it took him close to an hour to get into the ground. Whether this was due to a long walk or extreme queues/delays due to poor organisation, I'm not certain. That's all I can say really, whatever its worth; I haven't been to the stadium yet, after all.
sorry, didnt hear of the deaths or serious injury. sincere apologies.Quote:
Originally Posted by MeathDrog
got to my east upper seat in 20 mins from ballsbridge before and got back to ballsbridge after the match in about 15. next time everyone might actually read the travel plan included with the tickets and actually plan their route. the disaster would be not implementing the differant routes. getting into and out of the old stadium was actually dangerous at times in my experience when the crowd was in excess of 45,000. ever tried to get out of the old east stand via the south terrace entrance after a match?? 20 mins usually just to get as far as the gate and then a complete mosh on lansdowne road. nothing like that trouble last wednesday
I see JD's smoke and mirrors over Vantage Club sales and the finances in general started to wear thin a the FAI AGM.
Good article in today Times by Emmet Malone on how the numbers aren't adding up and debt has been rescheduled again. Confirmed that ICG have been given the boot and FAI have taken over sales resposibilities. Further alleges sales of Vantage Club tickets at large discounts, as well as the "football family" swizz, 5 year ticket deals and inclusion of 900 Lansdowne Rd 10 year ticket holders for which no money has been received for 7 years within the previous sales figures.
Also RIP Connaught Rep John Sherlock, who died on his way home from a party to celebrate Paddy McCaul being elected incoming FAI President.
It was reported at the weekend that over 6k premium seats have been sold and that the debt on the stadium (in the region of 35m) will be cleared by 2020. IF true, I think that is decent reading. How many premium seats are there in total? 10k?
It was actually a bit more subtle than that - it said that 6k premium seats have been sold or "committed to" or made available to commercial partners. I suspect the number of seats that have actually been paid for is quite a bit lower.Quote:
Originally Posted by elroy
Originally the sale of Vantage Club tickets was supposed to eliminate the FAI's debts for the stadium but given the economic environment it isn't surprising that it will take another ten years to pay off the debt. The FAI and their advisers badly miscalculated the price for the Vantage Club tickets but they weren't the only ones to do that during the boom years.
Its clearly lower. Delaney wouldn’t answer question on how much the sale of these tickets brought into the FAI. There’s 900 or so former Lansdowne 10 year ticket holders who were transferred to the vantage club for the 7 years remaining on those tickets too. So that’s effectively 900 tickets that the FAI won’t receive a penny for (having received it 3 years ago and long spent it).Quote:
Originally Posted by EastTerracer
He was asked how many of the tickets went to “commercial partners” and wouldn’t answer. He was asked how many tickets were heavily discounted and sold to football clubs. He wouldn’t answer.
I know for a fact that several clubs (even at junior level) up and down the country were more or less made buy VC tickets. Many of those clubs are now trying to use the tickets in raffles etc.
The pricing of the VC tickets were crazy and showed a real error on the part of the promoters to recognise that the recession had kicked in and in general people and to a lesser extent corporates didnt have the scale of money required for this anymore. Secondly, comparing the price of VC tickets to equivalents in rugby is crazy as we all know the market for rugby is far more affluent. A more suitable comparison is the gaa and I believe they're 10 year tickets were sold for approx €7k around 10 years ago. The gaa is now asking for €12k for the renewal of the same tickets, a price in line with the VC pricing. They probably have a larger catchment than the FAI had but I think they may as well struggle to shift the tickets at that price.
thats what you get when you try and treat a National football team like a club team. What a weird, weird football country we are.
What's the cost and how many are they looking to sell?
You'd think some kind of quirky incentive - such as a 3 year extension for free if we qualify for a tournament - might make it a bit more appealing. The FAI would presumably be prepared to pay away some of the profits that'd accrue if qualification was achieved. Money now is always better than money later.
Maybe they could be offered as Lottery prizes, with the National Lottery paying for the cost of acquiring the tickets. I think some lateral thinking could improve sales. I know successful Irishmen over here (UK) with their own businesses & I haven't heard of any that have been offered VC packages.
Ever thought of working for a LOI club?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
I came across this piece today on the website of the Sunday Business Post: http://www.sbpost.ie/news/aviva-to-l...nal-51351.html
It's dated the 29th of August but came across as very strange to me in that I'm pretty certain that what it is purporting to be revealing is already long well-known; that the new stadium will be referred to as the Dublin Arena for the Europa League final next year and, thus, Aviva will not receive any exposure for the event.
Is there an agenda behind the article? It appears like a simple attempt to embarrass the FAI/Aviva. Especially given the fact that the piece concludes with a penultimate paragraph pretty much rendering even writing the whole thing completely pointless:Quote:
The Aviva Stadium is to be rebranded for the hosting of the Europa League final next year – despite the insurance company spending €40 million to secure naming rights for the stadium.
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The decision by Uefa is embarrassing for Aviva and the FAI, which received a cut of the €40 million naming rights deal.
I just thought it was all a bit odd seeing as it's been public knowledge for quite some time - years in fact - that UEFA and FIFA have such rules in place when it comes to their events being hosted in corporate-sponsored stadia.Quote:
However, a spokesman for Aviva said the company was aware of all protocols when it signed its ten-year deal, and was delighted with its decision to sponsor the stadium. "It is Uefa policy to refer to the city," the spokesman said.
Out of interest, will all references to Aviva - for example, on the outside of the stadium and the white seating spelling out the company's name - have to be masked in some way or another for the game?
As Aviva is not an offcial UEFA "partner" the ground is not even referred to by the insurance name on the website. The official match report from Friday mentions in the 2nd paragraph that Ireland will play Andorra in the "Dublin Arena" on Tuesday and the fixtures have all our home games under that name as well.
http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro2012/mat...ort/index.html
The same thing has happened with the Allianz Arena in Munich - during the 2006 World Cup it was called the Munich Arena for FIFA purposes.
Lazy lazy journalism, this has been known for quite a while, but saw the non story in the papers last wkd alright. Plenty out there willing to take a shout at the fai everytime they can.
"embarrassing for Aviva and the FAI"..........not in the slightest as it turns out, as Aviva wouldve known UEFA's well standing policy on this sort of thing well before they signed naming rights deal.