Ballyheane AFC

I would say that weekending 31.8.2008 would be a week that Castlebar Celtic would like not to be remembered, as this must be the darkest week they will remember.
It was soon to be a reality that they were not to entering a team into Eircom U-20 League, Which from there part must have been bad news.While some clubs in Mayo will say they had it coming. Over the last number of months They would have learned That Galway Utd and Sligo Rovers would have been Courting a numbers of there best talent at under 18 up to 20 years.Celtic for there part were hoping that the F.A.I. would relent and allow Celtic to enter into the U-20 League.
Now it looks like up to 8 players will leave for ether Galway or Sligo, this is the same F.A.I. who spent a week in Mayo talking up how successful football was in Mayo. Hope they would continue the great work in promoting grass roots football. It looks like bread eaten soon forgotten .It appears that John Delanney /co only consider Mayo as a feeder league for those who are around us such as Galway /Sligo.
This decision by The F.A.I. will put football back in Mayo By five years, not only for youths of the county but also our junior league, will deprived of the best players to play in there league. also to play for there county team.
It now has become clear that Galway /Sligo will now cherry pick the best players from Mayo, also K/Knock have also been hit with the lost of one the best goal keepers in the county in Michael Schlingerman at u-18.this also means that he will not play for his county also because of one bad decision by John Dell Boy and co.
It looks like Mayo is the forgotten County, after been made false promises to Celtic who took up the place last year in the Eircom U-21 league,We can only see if Dell boy will throw a life line to Mayo

Renovator from reading these forums it is known to most and certainly to me is that you dont have a clue of mayo football.....Name these 8 players renovator??Young Sclingermann is signing for Sligo because he attended open trials,he was not poached or as you say cherrypicked:confused:you are as use to this forum as is tits on a bull!!;)

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Originally Posted by El-Hero9

Renovator from reading these forums it is known to most and certainly to me is that you dont have a clue of mayo football.....Name these 8 players renovator??Young Sclingermann is signing for Sligo because he attended open trials,he was not poached or as you say cherrypicked:confused:you are as use to this forum as is tits on a bull!!;)

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its not 8 players but 6 anyway and i know that for a fact!!! no point mentioning names you will see soon enough who they are. it's a joke and i wouldn't blame the players for wanting to play in the eircom league, who wouldn't ???? players are going to lose out on playing for an eircom league team in mayo and renovator is right about john delaney coming and praising all the facilities in mayo but whats the point in having them if they are not put to use???

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Originally Posted by El-Hero9

Renovator from reading these forums it is known to most and certainly to me is that you dont have a clue of mayo football.....Name these 8 players renovator??Young Sclingermann is signing for Sligo because he attended open trials,he was not poached or as you say cherrypicked:confused:you are as use to this forum as is tits on a bull!!;)

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By your quote you are from Sligo OR Galway I am well aware who the players are up to 8 players may leave to play more attractive football in the U -20 league. My point is Celtic have being denied by those who considered them selves, looking after grass roots.
Clearly your concerns is to take the best players Mayo have on offer, I considered it Cherry picking. Do you have another name for it. I never accused any club of poaching, however having spoken to Micheal, he quoted saying his Manager was approached, Why not the secretary?

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Originally Posted by renovater

By your quote you are from Sligo OR Galway

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Incorrect!!:eek: Try again!!:D

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Originally Posted by renovater

By your quote you are from Sligo OR Galway I am well aware who the players are up to 8 players may leave to play more attractive football in the U -20 league. My point is Celtic have being denied by those who considered them selves, looking after grass roots.
Clearly your concerns is to take the best players Mayo have on offer, I considered it Cherry picking. Do you have another name for it. I never accused any club of poaching, however having spoken to Micheal, he quoted saying his Manager was approached, Why not the secretary?

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Take a jump Renno, and stop all your waffling.

Two of those players were playing for Westport and were cherrypicked to Celtic and thats in addition to all the senior players they cherry picked from other ML clubs.

Since Dykes left the majority of their team has gone. They are now an average superleague team if that. It just shows you the loyalty that they have.

They have alienated their former players who left and are with other SL clubs.

The motto is nurture your local talent.

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Originally Posted by Thunderblaster

Incorrect!!:eek: Try again!!:D

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I couldn't care less where he from, my concern is what he represents :mad:
I would expect you to no better,

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Originally Posted by Leveller

Take a jump Renno, and stop all your waffling.

Two of those players were playing for Westport and were cherrypicked to Celtic and thats in addition to all the senior players they cherry picked from other ML clubs.

Since Dykes left the majority of their team has gone. They are now an average superleague team if that. It just shows you the loyalty that they have.

They have alienated their former players who left and are with other SL clubs.

The motto is nurture your local talent.

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There no waffling here, I did state that some clubs would say they had it coming, and I do agree? that they Celtic didn't always behave and respect other clubs, However the two players you are talking naming Torphy and Fallon, were driven by one father's ego to do better.
My point is about the number of players leaving the county, not by who they play for. Your club could have taken up the opportunity, but you failed to.At what point as a club do you intend to raise the bar, or is just enough to win local titles. while I have no problem you doing that, but to criticised others want to play at a higher level is like taking a step backwards.
My point is that these players who leave this county to play in another county is lowering the standard of our game, plus the players are not available to our county teams, Should Celtic or any other club set out to play at higher level and players choose to play for them, that's what would attract any player who wishes to play at higher level, but to deprive a player would be the wrong reason to be in football and a selfish one.
Regards to the gray one only he can answer for what he did, not me.We can only sit and judge him.

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Originally Posted by Thunderblaster

Incorrect!!:eek: Try again!!:D

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To tell you the truth, I couldn't care where he from, One thing is for sure he no friend of Mayo Football.
So thunder what your view on the big clubs raiding our most talent players, sure if they were Westport players, we wouldn't here the end of it. So come off the fence give us your view.::D

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Originally Posted by renovater

To tell you the truth, I couldn't care where he from, One thing is for sure he no friend of Mayo Football.
So thunder what your view on the big clubs raiding our most talent players, sure if they were Westport players, we wouldn't here the end of it. So come off the fence give us your view.::D

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Sure, isn't Westport United a big club!!!:D:D

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Originally Posted by Thunderblaster

Sure, isn't Westport United a big club!!!:D:D

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You fail be, to mcome up with answer like that, you are avoiding the question at hand. I will ask the question so you may give yes or no.
Is it right for Mayo To lose its best players to an outside county, to play U-20 football.
If you think Westport a big club, why don't they lead from the front rather than behind.
As I said if they are happy at winning local titles fair enough. But lets back the club who wants to progress. not knock them back.

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Originally Posted by renovater

You fail be, to mcome up with answer like that, you are avoiding the question at hand. I will ask the question so you may give yes or no.
Is it right for Mayo To lose its best players to an outside county, to play U-20 football.
If you think Westport a big club, why don't they lead from the front rather than behind.
As I said if they are happy at winning local titles fair enough. But lets back the club who wants to progress. not knock them back.

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Renno we have won the national title the FAI Junior Cup. I am sure the Westport United Foot is happy to consolidate its position and be a club of the community, what has happened at Celtic while the gray one was there has taken that away from them with the alienation of their local players.

The U20 league was supposed to be used as a stepping stone to the LOI, I think the club can sustain their presence in the U20 league I am not sure that a full LOI status is sustainable by them. Many of these U20 players wont make the grade anyway and you will find them back in the Mayo League in a few years.

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Originally Posted by Leveller

Renno we have won the national title the FAI Junior Cup. I am sure the Westport United Foot is happy to consolidate its position and be a club of the community, what has happened at Celtic while the gray one was there has taken that away from them with the alienation of their local players.

The U20 league was supposed to be used as a stepping stone to the LOI, I think the club can sustain their presence in the U20 league I am not sure that a full LOI status is sustainable by them. Many of these U20 players wont make the grade anyway and you will find them back in the Mayo League in a few years.

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You fail me with your views, however I respect your comments as they are yours. And that they don't represent Westport Football Club.
I commend your club on winning National Titles. I have no doubt your club is happy to consolidate it position and be a club with in the community.
There are many out there would consider your club as a team rather than a club, but thats only general opinion.
You have being presented the oppitunity to move to the next level but you choose not to.
Regards to the gray I always made my veiws know on that one, and he not here to defend him self.
The u-20 league is to support underage players to play at a higher level.Regards at to weather they are good enough is a matter for them, ask any player who has step up, will tell you they are.
I don't except your view they will be back, we as a football family should look after our own and should have made representation from The Mayo League on behalf of Celtic to make sure they had a team in the u-20, then we as a league would have these players available to us with our leagues and at county level. What we end up with is these players playing for Sligo and Galway against our league.
Are you happy with that?

While we wait for a reply from leveller we will change the subject.
I like to turn my attention to Tom Kelly comments in the Connaught, Shake up review the Super League. Have to say I do agree with him. its seem to be coming a mockery to the clubs who have played in it since it was set up.
If clubs who are promoted and can't take there place, its then time to look at the rules that govern them from taking there place, Its a choice between a bad rule and a team from 6th place in the lower league. One has to ask them self of which of the two is best severed.I believe a work shop is taking place soon its up to clubs to find a solution which will accommodate those who its best severed.

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Originally Posted by renovater

You fail me with your views, however I respect your comments as they are yours. And that they don't represent Westport Football Club.
I commend your club on winning National Titles. I have no doubt your club is happy to consolidate it position and be a club with in the community.
There are many out there would consider your club as a team rather than a club, but thats only general opinion.
You have being presented the oppitunity to move to the next level but you choose not to.
Regards to the gray I always made my veiws know on that one, and he not here to defend him self.
The u-20 league is to support underage players to play at a higher level.Regards at to weather they are good enough is a matter for them, ask any player who has step up, will tell you they are.
I don't except your view they will be back, we as a football family should look after our own and should have made representation from The Mayo League on behalf of Celtic to make sure they had a team in the u-20, then we as a league would have these players available to us with our leagues and at county level. What we end up with is these players playing for Sligo and Galway against our league.
Are you happy with that?

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with all this talk of lads going to galway or sligo, who's going where??

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Originally Posted by theboy

with all this talk of lads going to galway or sligo, who's going where??

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Out of respect of clubs concerned I won't be going to play the name game with you.
If you have heard you have to ask the clubs concerned.:ball:
Have any comment on the Super League Promotion/ Relegation?

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Originally Posted by renovater

You fail me with your views, however I respect your comments as they are yours. And that they don't represent Westport Football Club.
I commend your club on winning National Titles. I have no doubt your club is happy to consolidate it position and be a club with in the community.
There are many out there would consider your club as a team rather than a club, but thats only general opinion.
You have being presented the oppitunity to move to the next level but you choose not to.
Regards to the gray I always made my veiws know on that one, and he not here to defend him self.
The u-20 league is to support underage players to play at a higher level.Regards at to weather they are good enough is a matter for them, ask any player who has step up, will tell you they are.
I don't except your view they will be back, we as a football family should look after our own and should have made representation from The Mayo League on behalf of Celtic to make sure they had a team in the u-20, then we as a league would have these players available to us with our leagues and at county level. What we end up with is these players playing for Sligo and Galway against our league.
Are you happy with that?

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When Westport United settles into Lugrevagh, Westport United will become a bigger club!!:D

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Originally Posted by renovater

While we wait for a reply from leveller we will change the subject.
I like to turn my attention to Tom Kelly comments in the Connaught, Shake up review the Super League. Have to say I do agree with him. its seem to be coming a mockery to the clubs who have played in it since it was set up.
If clubs who are promoted and can't take there place, its then time to look at the rules that govern them from taking there place, Its a choice between a bad rule and a team from 6th place in the lower league. One has to ask them self of which of the two is best severed.I believe a work shop is taking place soon its up to clubs to find a solution which will accommodate those who its best severed.

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If Kilmore are good enough (as a 6th best team) to beat Bangor Hibs then it doesn't say alot about the super league, does it?? It says that the premier division is stronger than it looks :eek:

Any team losing 23 goals in 2 games, no matter what the opposition should not play at that standard, so hopefully kilmore do beat them and join us and S & F to make the super league stronger ;)

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Originally Posted by GoodFootball

If Kilmore are good enough (as a 6th best team) to beat Bangor Hibs then it doesn't say alot about the super league, does it?? It says that the premier division is stronger than it looks :eek:

Any team losing 23 goals in 2 games, no matter what the opposition should not play at that standard, so hopefully kilmore do beat them and join us and S & F to make the super league stronger ;)

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i heard that fahy weren't allowed into the super league for not having their own pitch, is dat true?

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Originally Posted by threefivetwo

i heard that fahy weren't allowed into the super league for not having their own pitch, is dat true?

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We have to have a pitch (don't have to own it I think) to play in the super league as far as I know. Astro not allowed in the super league.

I think we might be trying to share with another team, we'll see how it goes. Hopefully the issue is sorted soon...dread the thought of playing in the premier again!