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Absolute nonsenseQuote:
Originally Posted by rebelarmyexile
They're a slightly left of centre party who have long since abandoned any far left tendencies. They maintain a socialist facade and active community workers
Comparing them to the BNP and calling them authoritarian is silly
I don't even know where to begin :rolleyes:Quote:
One would have more libertarian rights in Iran, than an Ireland under SF
Must say that the
Left-wing government?
No thanks!
sign made me laugh.
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Originally Posted by Risteard
Yes, and the only place I've seen that is in Cork!
Fianna Fáil up 5% after the (taoisigh) debate but Fine Gael unchanged?
What a mental election this is turning out to be. Loving it.
For those of us that lived in the UK at the time, it's all a bit 1992...Quote:
Originally Posted by Erstwhile Bóz
If it's not to be the alternative, I hope that FF/PD get back in to reap what they've sown for the next few years. Worst case scenario is FF/ Labour, as restricts the alternatives for the next election and effectively kills off the Labour Party imo.
Isn't Bertie a socialist? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Risteard
Funny Macy I made exactly the same remark to someone yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macy
Wasn't that the election where Labour led in the polls throughout the campaign, then the Sun had a front page splash urging people to vote Tory on polling day ("last person leaving Britain turn the lights out") and the electorate stuck with better the devil you know.
Its like deja vu all over again....:D
An acquaintance of mine who was formerly interested in leftist politics thinks that the Rabbitte Party deserve everything coming to them for helping to bring Fine Gael back from the dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macy
Anybody think that maybe Labour voters aren't as turned off by the prospect of Fianna Fáil as the party leadership/membership?
"We're alright"... I'd take FF in the wilderness for the next decade after the next election though if it does go that way...Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
Well that's what FF would have you believe anyway, I wouldn't be that convinced. Cullen, McCreevy, Cowen, Roche et al would hardly be loved by core Labour voters. Perhaps by those that support Labour based on it being a liberal alternative to FF or those that really think that FF are left of centre (I'd love to see any actions over the last 10 years that back that view).Quote:
Originally Posted by Erstwhile Bóz
If the current incumbents get back in, but with increased Labour, SF, Socialist and Green votes in opposition, could we be in a position to see some coalition of the left as an alternative the next time? FF/FG merge, with the mythical left wing of FF splitting off and we finally get politics not based on the civil war? We can but dream...
Labour could have and should have been the second-largest party in the country by now and if the will was there they could have created just such a left-leaning opposition with Fine Gael almost an irrelevance, well on track to overthrow a jaded FF in 2012 and beholden to nobody. If their leadership had a shred of honour about them and really thought that left-leaning politics was for the longterm good of this state rather than a means for them to get hold of the reins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macy
I read that when de Rossa, Rabbitte, et al., split from the Workers' Party in 1992 Mac Giolla (?) said that he predicted that the power-hungry little gobsheens would go on to change their policies like nobody's business and drift towards the centre, finally doing a deal with somebody like Fine Gael. People thought he was just being bitter ...
Are they allowed campaign today legally? Local FF guy up and down through the town all day with the speakers blasting out vote for me.
I thought that was not allowed?
Clifford, as far as I am aware it is only via the media that this moratorium exists. They can still burn their shoe leather if they so wish.
Use your vote wisely :)
Yes indeed it was, and the following day The Sun headline was "It was us who won it". The reality however was that Labour had only a slight advantage at any time during the weeks leading up to polling day. Neil Kinnock, the Labour leader at that time, got bogged down on tax and health issues and was not able to fully justify how he would reduce waiting lists. (does this sound familar??) Interestingly, as a result of that election result the opinion polling companies actually now build in something called "a shy Tory" factor, ie people who do not publicly admit they would vote Conservative.Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
In the foot.ie Dail the rainbow (FG, Labour & Greens) would have a majority. (need to exclude the spolit votes & non-voters above...
Cheers. I intend to. ABFF!Quote:
Originally Posted by beautifulrock
Like that Clifford, our Green Party Candidate had a car going through town blasting out the Star Wars music with "Vincent P Martin, Vincent P Martin" being sung over in tune with it. Was very funny!
Joe Higgins gone
why is that a good thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Block G Raptor
I get the feeling that the rivarly is bitter between the Judaean People's Front and the People's Front of Judaea.Quote:
Originally Posted by GavinZac
Haha. :D :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Poor Student
We're better socialist than you...