In the least agressive way possible, who cares? It's a song. It's part of the pre-match ritual to help psych up the team and the crowd, and if he wants to join in then what's the point of analysing it for microagressions and third-rate drama?
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In the least agressive way possible, who cares? It's a song. It's part of the pre-match ritual to help psych up the team and the crowd, and if he wants to join in then what's the point of analysing it for microagressions and third-rate drama?
Whos looking for drama? Ive said its not a big deal but just interested in peoples opinions. You dont care, thats your opinion and thats cool. Ive seen threads where players get attacked for not singing the anthem.Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
Its just a topic I found mildly interesting, you dont. Grand!
This you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
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Originally Posted by Razors left peg
I didn't realise that he did. My opinion is the same as it was for every other manager from outside the country, it's nice if he does sing it, and if he doesn't, I'm not bothered.
Before the England game in September, I met up with Russel, the host of the England fans podcast I was on, and he asked me if the new manager singing, or not singing, the anthem, was an issue. I said we've had managers who have sung, and not sung, the anthem, and I don't recall it ever making a difference to a result.
Now whos the one looking for drama. I gave my thoughts on it and suggested that it crossed my mind that it was a Canham thing but realistically it was just probably Hallgrimsson being nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
Jesus, this is a benign a subject as possible. I even said not every topic on a forum has to be that serious but you cant help yourself as usual. If something pops up that you dont think you should be on the forum you immediately want to shut it down.
We are in a week where there is very little football now after the internationals. A very insignificant thing happened at the game that I had a thought about and all I wanted to do was to maybe generate a bit of chat on here... you know the thing that there has been talks about how to try improve on a forum that doesnt have as much traffic as times past.
Heres an idea John, if you didnt think its a topic even worth engaging in dont! But dont go accusing me of trying to start drama when you are the one doing so
It always impressed me when 1G or 2G recruits cared enough to learn it and sing it - same for managers. I wouldn't be cynical about it and would take at face value. Whether it was orchestrated or resulted from him now loving the EIRE, its nice to see.
Pretty he said when appointed that he had done it before, presumably with Iceland and Jamaica but wasn’t sure if it would be possible or how long it would take given it’s as gaelige. So pretty sure it’s not a Canham idea
Haven't time to look it up now, but like yourself am pretty sure HH has spoken about it already and in those terms...Quote:
Originally Posted by elatedscum
If you were the FAI you'd be considering extending Hallgrimsson's contract at some point between now and September, wouldn't you? Because the last thing they would want is another eight month long manager search, or every game in the World Cup qualifiers becoming a referendum on the manager's future.
I'm not sure what the reason was that he only got a contract for one campaign to start with, but the association seems to have stumbled into a very competent appointment here - also he seems to toe the party line for them and doesn't charge a fortune for his services. Given the tough Nations League group we got, he arguably couldn't have done any better up to this point.
I can't really see who else they could appoint for the same money that would be an obvious improvement. Wouldn't be surprised if we hear in the near future that his contract has been extended up to Euro 2028, assuming he's happy to continue (which he likely would be, with us having such an advantageous qualification route).
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Originally Posted by Eirambler
Anything that keeps JOS from getting the job Im all in on :)
No,I wouldn't extend it. True, there haven't been any unexpected failures, but there haven't been any unexpected successes either. The four wins were nice, but (from what I hear in Canada)they were four workmanlike/ugly wins against two teams we should be beating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
I think the extension should wait until after the group games, at least. If Halgrimsson gets us to the playoffs, or close, then sure, extend his contract to Euro 28 at that point
Workmanlike wins V equals is where we're at and probably will be for a while more. They are also things we haven't managed in some time. If he got us anywhere near playoffs from where he found us, he'll have options.Quote:
Originally Posted by samhaydenjr
If, and I accept, it is a big If, he was Canhams early April guy all along, then we know HH will explore his options, will talk to other Associations, will wait on the best available position for him & will leave others waiting while that plays out, will travel and is ambitious.
So, do you stick or twist, speculate or wait & see.
Do you risk his stock suddenly rising out of our reach.
We've been losing for so long, do the basics he's delivering look more than they actually are ? Or is the feelgood & the evidence of players being worked on the beginning of something noteworthy ?
Does he even want a new contract ?
Is it short because that's all we could get him to sign ?
On the contract, we've made the early renewal mistake with way too many managers so no thank you. Let's see how he does in the qualifiers.
On the anthem bit. He seems to be a very genuine person and he publicly stated that it's something managers should do so hats off to him. Between moving here, going to LOI games, learning the anthem..well that's more than half the FAI have done and every foreign manager we've had.
Martinez is a clown so agree with your original assessment RLP but I wouldn't conflate him with HH.
At this stage, I think the correct answer to all of your questions is "er... Maybe?"Quote:
Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke
This latest from Bradley makes me think how he whined about HH is incredibly hypocritical. I don't see how it's fine for him to publicly declare he wants to 'manage at the highest level' but when HH essentially says the European games could open the door for LOI players to play at a higher level he's ostracised
https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soc...eland-35376066
I dunno. I respect what Bradley has done with Rovers but the man is exhausting
Bradley is painful. Can't be dealing with him. I liked him but the more he speaks the less I like him.
Respect to HH for learning the anthem but I don't think a manager needs to do that. Especially if he's not from the country.
I don't think I'd sing another country's anthem if I was managing them. But big respect to him for putting that work in
I think the honest truth is that some of the most high profile managers in the League of Ireland are just not the nicest individuals unfortunately.
How many of the " best " sports managers are nice people, I'll wager not too many.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
Alex Ferguson ~ A Bully, certainly when it suited him, especially in his early days when that was pretty much par for the course.
Brian Clough ~ Certainly could be a Bully if he took against you, he ruled clubs like a dictator if the entire truth be told.
Is Jose Mourinho a nice man ~ ~ I don't think so, and I'd say a good few in soccer would agree with men.
What's that about nice guys finishing, second / last ?
Edit ~ You probably have to be pretty duplicitous with, players / agents / other, at times any !
True, but Duff and Bradley seem particularly nauseating these days for some reason.
Ron Atkinson was a lovely chap..........Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
Terry Venables seemed a genuinely likable person. (big name but maybe not one of the "best" managers, in truth)