I thought it was only four, but he wasted so much time it felt like 11.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
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I thought it was only four, but he wasted so much time it felt like 11.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Last point on this. Robbie Keane was the greatest Irish striker ever.
Correct. Sorry!Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
i think i was only around 14 at that game. me and my best friend. i've never experienced a more toxic atmosphere in my entire life, walking out, the pure hatred and anger, the sense of being absolutely robbed, with the penalty and the red card and the time wasting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yard of Pace
dunno if you'd get two 14 year olds going to a game alone these days. kinda hope you still would. it was special...
It was dreadful. And to make it worse that absolute ball bag of a keeper made an unbelievable late save from a close range John O'Shea diving header. Absolute certain goal.
Kerr came in for criticism (fairly imho) but despite all that, it could so easily have been 5-2, no debate. Their pen was so soft.
I was on the north stand that day, and had a was listening to radio commentary. After the red card, which was on the opposite side of the pitch, I asked everyone to be quiet so I could hear what had actually happened.
When I said that the keeper had taken a dive, but from the ref's point of view it looked like O'Brien had punched him, all around me started booing!
I think I remember booing you !
I had two super hot Israeli chicks in front of me in the West Lower. Only highlight of the second half.
I went to Dudu's wiki page expecting it to make particular, biting, reference to that game, but it doesn't at all. You lads are slipping.
I see UEFA have suspended the Israeli league while the current hostilities are ongoing. That looks like it could last a while yet. Not sure where that leaves Keane contract-wise. If he's out of a job, it may make it easier to appoint him national team manager when Kenny's contract expires (which is this month I think?)
Current record for the season is 11 wins and three draws from 15 games.
He's untried largely, and I'd need to be convinced, but half a mill a year may be a step up from what he's on now and he's at a loose end. He has to be a serious candidate I think
Wouldn't be my 1st choice but he started very well there, he might be better than expectedQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
It would make me question a lot if Robbie Keane turns out to be a good manager....but it would be some story arc!
Not saying he is going to be but he got off to almost as good start as possible this season. I'd prefer him to some of names mentioned but it would definitely more in hope than confidence that it would workQuote:
Originally Posted by ontheotherhand
Presumably they'll play out the europa conference league with him until december at the very least. uefa prize money would make it worthwhile, even if they're playing their games in Hungary or whatever
I don't know that league at all to be honest but I'd be wary enough of making any judgments after half a season or less. Declan Devine had bohs as league champions in April. How good was the team Keane had available? How many did he sign? Did they change approach? I've no idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
I loved Robbie as a player. Hated the stick he got at times. I hope he does become a great manager.
We might at least be able to afford Robbie Keane.
Plus he might actually be interested
The reservations expressed are all entirely valid of course
Mick McCarthy did not have all that much experience when he took the Irish job the first time ~ And he did have some success as Irish manager.
Didn't he have Millwall top or close to the top of what is now the Championship when he left them for the Ireland job. Hiring McCarthy then would have been something similar to hiring Kieran McKenna today. Unfortunately the game has moved on and someone like McKenna is likely to be well outside our price range now.
He was doing very well at Millwall ~ ~ Then when it was announced that he would be getting the Irish job at the end of the season ~ Millwall went in to a catastrophic free-fall ~ Were they even relegated ? ~ I can't remember but the free-fall was so bad that they must have ( I reckon )Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
Annouce-ing early in a season that a manager is leaving at the end of the season, rarely if ever works out well.
If McCarthy's cv was to be judged on that free-fall he would have been lucky to have ever got a job again. When all is said and done McCarthy did not have, that much of a managerial record when he got the Irish job the first time around.
I don't think that's quite what happened. He left in February, at which time Millwall were still right up near the top of the table. He was replaced by a northern Irish manager, Jimmy Nicholl, and the team went into free fall under Nicholl and were relegated. But that can't really be blamed on Mick to be fair - he wasn't there when the collapse happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
I seem to have got quite a bit of that wrong as the information below proves ~ My memory must be going a bit ~ Anyway ~ Apologies ~
From wikipedia
McCarthy became player-manager at Millwall in March 1992, succeeding Bruce Rioch. In his first full season (1992–93), he was still registered as a player, but made only one further appearance (in the Anglo-Italian Cup), before he became solely a manager.[citation needed]
He took the club to the play-offs in 1993–94 after a strong third-place finish, but they lost out to Derby County in the semi-finals. During the 1995–96 season, McCarthy became the prime candidate for the vacant Republic of Ireland manager's job, after the resignation of Jack Charlton. After a protracted period of speculation, McCarthy was officially appointed on 5 February 1996, two days after his resignation at the club. Despite sitting a comfortable 14 points clear from the relegation zone at the time of his departure, Millwall would go on to suffer the drop (by virtue of goals scored) after McCarthy's departure.[citation needed]
His loan signings of the underachieving Russian internationals Sergei Yuran and Vassili Kulkov from Spartak Moscow, who each received a £150,000 signing-on fee and were being paid five times the wage of the rest of the first team, would later be cited[by whom?] as one of the main reasons Millwall were eventually relegated under Jimmy Nicholl, although it cannot be proven.[13]
Another few wins for Robbie - Maccabi topped their Conference League group with 15 points to reach the last 16 of any European competition for the first time; it's also the first time they've won a European group.
The league has also resumed after two months off (which is a different thread of course - though it's interesting that there's been no talk of Israel being suspended from UEFA the same way Russia has been), and Keane has another two wins from two. Full record this season is 17 wins and 3 draws from 21 games. Scoring three goals a game too.
Should be banned from all sporting organisations. Would hinder Keane's career, but is the right thing for the world to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Great to Terry still alive in other forums.
Leaving aside all the politics of where hes working, it has to be said that Robbie is doing a fine job so far. I've probably said it a few times on here already, but my biggest hope for him was that he'd do well enough to get a 2nd job. He might be surpassing that at the moment with how well hes doing, he might find himself sought after if he keeps it up.
He'd actually be my personal 2nd favorite right now to take the Ireland job
It would be madness to give him the job now. That would be like giving Ronnie Whelan the job after he managed in CyprusQuote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Hes not going to get it, but based on how hes going so far I wouldnt be surprised to see him in the job in futureQuote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
It would be madness to give Robbie Keane the job at anytime - he is a showboater who is interest in money and image.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
Managing Maccabi Tel Aviv in Israel is like managing Celtic in Scotland - over the past eleven years they have won five championships, came second four times and third twice. They are owned by a Canadian billionaire. Israeli teams are restricted to six non-Israeli players so Maccabi Tel Aviv end up with all (or most) of the best Israeli players who haven't gone abroad - they currently have 7 players in the Israeli squad - all the other Israeli teams have 7 players combined. They have several players in their squad that cost in excess of €1million.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Our greatest ever striker, but sure just a showboaterQuote:
Originally Posted by Jolly Red Giant
Never say never but I'd like to see Robbie succeed at a different challenge before he would realistically come into contention for the job. Hopefully he does well this season and moves on up to a club on another level - maybe on the continent.
I've moved the OT posts here. I take the point that they're football-related, but they're barely Keane related, so they belong somewhere else.
Didn't say he wasn't a good footballer - he actually should have been better - but there is zero evidence that he is any good of a manager (for the same reason why there is zero evidence that Neil Lennon is any good).Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Robbie wins the Israeli Premier League with two games to spare. Great start to his managerial career. Loved him as a player but didn’t think he’d make a good manager. Fair play to him.
https://m.independent.ie/sport/socce...957825167.html
Robbie was underappreciated in Ireland for a lot of his career, despite being one of the top international goal scorers of all time (21st on the all time list alongside Luis Suarez). Winning the Israeli league won't change that perception much for reasons footballing and otherwise, but for Robbie it's just more winning.... he has a knack for it. Hoping he takes a step up now and manages somewhere in Europe ('real' Europe, not makey uppy Eurovision-type Europe).
Like, say, Australia?Quote:
Originally Posted by texidub
I'd take him as Ireland manager in a heartbeat nowQuote:
Originally Posted by texidub
Right now, I'd take a wheelie bin with googley eyes as Ireland manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Sticky Tacky tactics though ! !Quote:
Originally Posted by John83