True and i may be wrong but i thought i saw somewhere before that Pats own that landQuote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
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True and i may be wrong but i thought i saw somewhere before that Pats own that landQuote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
The River is an issue alright but we have to work with what we have now. If the council can come up with some regarding the camac it would really open excellent space on the other bank.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glen Of Aherlow
Are the council planning to buy all the premises on Emmett Road that sit in front of Richmond?
Nothing official but it’s safe to assume they are. We sold McDowells pub so something would have to be worked out there and with another business that is a few doors down. I wouldn’t assume like some are that the front of the houses will be preserved to keep the look of the street. I’m looking forward to seeing the official plans whenever they are revealed. Hopefully when we hear something it’s that it’s funded and ready to proceed.Quote:
Originally Posted by pateen
Fair play. Great to see progress with any club.
Do they already own a good few of the houses or are they existing council houses?Quote:
Originally Posted by D24Saint
Will you get held up by a few "i was born in this house and i amnt leaving types" ?
We own 125 and the archway. The old dry cleaners on the corner has been derelict for years. What the council own I’m not sure but to make the plan viable they must had more property on the street than I would have thought. It’s hard not to see a scenario where a few hold outs look for a better deal from the corpo.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Compulsory purchase out anyone who looks for more than the house is worth if they can be offered a house locally.Quote:
Originally Posted by D24Saint
Whats going to happen to McDowells lads?
In relation to Saint Pats, it a private company that run the club I think, which getting money from the public purse for a stadium is problematic. Also, this might have been sorted, but was Richmond Park a collateral for a loan of something like 16million. Pats fans will know better and these issues may have been sorted, so the latest news is positive for them especially with the better crowds they are getting.
I was standing behind the goal in Tolka up the back and realised id never noticed before they have a fence walling off the back half of the away end.
Some Rovers fans went in there and were moved out by the Guards as they had been let in by mistake.
The only difference i could see was the metal holders for the seats that used to be thee were stilll in that section but had been removed where we were standing.
With big crowds traveling now from the Dublin clubs could Shels not take out the holders and move the fence back?
We were jammed in , didnt feel unsafe at all but whats the point in jamming people in when there is half as much space again.
The council rejected our plan to fund and build own stadium so they can’t have it every way.Quote:
Originally Posted by wonder88
It will be knocked Id say. In its current guise it will be no loses It hasn’t been the same since the wards sold it. The current owner ripped out the snug and has ran it into the ground. It’s absolutely filthy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
I'm not sure this is true ? Surely at least some of the greyhound tracks that received funding must be under a private company. The GAA is also essentiually a private company - though it may structure itself to be a community/cooperative-style one ?Quote:
Originally Posted by wonder88
Shame. I had many good nights in there back in the day. I always enjoyed going to Richmond, partly because of McDowell's. The Pats fans were always sound in there.Quote:
Originally Posted by D24Saint
It was a great spot, pre-game and at HT for a while; though when HT exit for away fans stopped, one game we were front row of the away end of the stand and chatting to a really sound steward, he said if we wanted in to the bar at HT just head to the gate and mention his name. It was obviously full of only Pats fans and is one of the stand out lovely LoI moments for me over all the years chatting to the home fans. Caught up with a few again post match and in Dundalk that season(2013 iirc). A shame it couldnt be incorporated in to a develpment in some way, or that any club can have an unsegregated bar, as besides income, one of the things I liked most about LoI was being able to mingle with fellow fans. Derry in general, (+some others), before heading up the hill to the Brandywell was great too. As a home fan be it Kennedy's or the Lilywhite Lounge same type of thing applies. In the grand scheme of things its not a biggy, just part of the old appeal of LoI imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Longfordian
Rovers fans seem to go out fo the forge bar on the border sometimes when they play uaQuote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
The Forge and a few in Bridge St are much of a muchness, serve anyone!Quote:
Originally Posted by dundalkfc10
So the Irish government are putting €500k into a stadium in New York. Wow, just wow.
https://www.dfa.ie/news-and-media/pr...a-overseas.php
While 500k is not much, they still gave it to a rich organisation to fund an overseas stadium in one of the richest country's in the world. LOI clubs could do with it more than the yanks. Its a shame but that's the government for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract
its a token gesture wouldnt read much into it at all. 500k wont get you much , especially in NY.
It'd do a lot for some Irish clubs, in several sports. The New York GAA has plenty of money.
the money was ringfenced to be spent on the governments emigrant support programme. the outrage is misplaced. at least it was spent on sport...Quote:
Originally Posted by Longfordian
Through the ESP, the Government provides financial support to organisations engaged in the delivery of front line advisory services and community care to Irish emigrants, particularly to the more vulnerable and marginalised members of our community abroad, including the elderly. In addition, the ESP also facilitates Irish Government investment in a range of cultural, community and heritage projects, which foster a vibrant sense of Irish community and identity, as well as strategic capital projects.
I'm not outraged personally, I'm maybe one level above "don't care" on the scale. Fair enough if it had to be spent abroad but I still think there will have been other cities or countries that need the money more than NY GAA. They have plenty of money to be paying intercounty players to come over every summer.
That makes it all the more baffling. 500k could do an awful lot relatively speaking for a ground like Mounthawk Park for example. Even if it’s a GAA only thing, there’s more than plenty of GAA grounds in this country that could do with a 500k (at least!) upgradeQuote:
Originally Posted by Jd2793
Would you need a larger brown envelope for 500k or would it be easier as a cheque in a standard brown size envelope!
Just wondering! :confused:
They could always spend it in Derry.... :soldier:Quote:
Originally Posted by Longfordian
Things may not be great on the pitch atm but LTFC deserve huge credit for Bishopsgate.
https://twitter.com/betweenstripes/s...95646723313664
A great ground. With a bit more roof it would be the best in the FD. Though the arial shots really show how much the ground is in the middle of nowhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
Yeah it's a real shame it's not a few k closer to the town because it's a great facility. I'd say Longford would get a few more in the gate if that was the case too.Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
The flip side to that though is look at the scope for developing the facility. That's a brand new astro gone in there and those back pitches ard only a few years old, plus the club use the huge car park for car boot sales on bank holidays which are massive money spinners for the club. You see grounds like Oriel and Drogheda that are in the middle of towns and the footfall is obviously much higher but there's little to no scope to develop themQuote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
Longford isn't far off having a properly great ground. Has always felt unfinished to me though. Roof would be great around the rest of the ground, but it's not the end of the world to have an open ground.
Lack of toilet or shop facilities on the other side of the ground, a small tin hut for media gantry, no other access/exit points, unfinished carpark surface, lot of bare blockwork with no plaster or paint.
I know it's small things, but these things being upgraded would immediately make it one of the best grounds in the league, for me.
As said though, there's huge scope for development there and the facilities they do have is a credit to them. Many other clubs could only dream of what they have built.
Yeah its a nice little ground with a lot of potential. Agree on all your points but would also add.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Need of a hot food facility there, especially for a ground more or less in the middle of nowhere. Been there 5 or 6 times I think once there was a chip van, rest of time just seem to be little tuck shop then soup & sandwiches under main stand
A lot of the seats have been exposed to Irish weather for far too long and are rotting away. Granted it been a few years since I was last there so maybe things have changed, but I think removing the seats behind each goal and just doing terracing. Then a roof over ( even just the middle sections of) the Section O side and again terrace the rest of it
All those things you mention are great in their own way and bring money into the club and it would be fine if you were talking about a Junior GAA club but soccer is much more of an urban sportQuote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
Do more people head out to Bishopsgate (or whatever it;s called these days) for a car boot sale than for a football match ?Quote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
The stadium is a credit to those involved over the years who got it built with very little in the way of government funding of any kind. It's come a long way in terms of additional pitches and facilities for the academy teams. Agree that it could still do with a few little finishing touches but maybe it can be done in time.
People come from all over Ireland to sell at them. Cars start arriving from before 6am and car park does litreally be full to the brim. It's a huge fundraiser for club.Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
What is the capacity at Longford, and do they often fill it, either recently or in the past?
For while it is quite impressive in a lot of ways, I really cannot understand why they would have/need so much uncovered seating. I get that it's a summer season and the weather is more benign than more Northerly parts etc. And lack of cover is ok for terracing, I suppose, since standing in the rain/cold isn't too bad. But sitting in the cold and rain?
So that unless they're selling out regularly and need the maximum capacity, would it not have been wiser to spend what money they have on putting a roof on a smaller portion of the terracing upon which they've bolted those seats and just leave the rest of the terracing as it is? I can't help thinking it's a LOI thing, since you don't really see these large expanses of uncovered seating in comparable level grounds in NI/Wales/England/Scotland.
P.S. Not having a pop by any means, merely curious in a stadium-nerd kinda way.
It's got a UEFA license so can host underage internationals and could host some sort of European games as well.
It started in a bit of a romantically shambolic way in that Stephen Kenny and the club at the time were determined to play our first ever European game in Longford. To do that they needed way more seats. Which were kind of thrown up around the ground. Then when we qualified again a few years later, again we wanted to play at home but we had to put in proper concrete. It probably would have made more sense long term to have terraces at either end and an at least partially roofed smaller stand opposite the main stand. We've hardly ever sold out but we did have some memorable nights over the years. Winning the League Cup at home in 2004 was a good one.