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23/05/2012, 3:13 PM
The Fly

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

Never good enough for England and failed with the South - we're not that desperate.

Really??? (Ranked 100, and about to be overtaken by Malawi and Equatorial Guinea any day now) ;)
23/05/2012, 3:15 PM
ArdeeBhoy

@ NB' s 4:01 pm,

Not yet...
23/05/2012, 3:18 PM
Not Brazil

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Fly

Really??? (Ranked 100, and about to be overtaken by Malawi and Equatorial Guinea any day now) ;)

I'd rather be ranked 200 than have Bruce in the team.
23/05/2012, 3:23 PM
ifk101

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

A player choosing to go down the FAI road at Under 19, can switch to the IFA if things change for him or don't work out with the FAI at a later date.

And vice versa? Say for example player X honourably accepts the oath of allegiance to the Northern Irish FA but fails to make the grade. Is that player welcome to try his luck with Ireland?
23/05/2012, 3:25 PM
DannyInvincible

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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

I have to say I'd be quietly impressed if Alex Bruce managed to fail with three separate countries. Is he eligible for Scotland?

Alex the Bruce?
23/05/2012, 3:29 PM
DannyInvincible

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

I predict that Bruce will never be selected to play for Northern Ireland, so it's a bit of a moot point.

Because "there wasn't really a decision to make", according to Bruce when asked to play for the IFA previously.

But what about future hypothetical examples who would fall under your proposal? They tell the IFA that there is no decision to make as the FAI is their first port of call (just like you seek), until they return to the IFA a few years later declaring their interest in representing NI after failing to have represented the FAI at senior competitive level...
23/05/2012, 3:31 PM
The Fly

Quote:

Originally Posted by Not Brazil

I'd rather be ranked 200 than have Bruce in the team.

With the British Virgin Islands, an overseas territory, in 199 to keep you company?

AB will like that. :rolleyes:
23/05/2012, 3:34 PM
Not Brazil

Quote:

Originally Posted by ifk101

And vice versa? Say for example player X honourably accepts the oath of allegiance to the Northern Irish FA but fails to make the grade. Is that player welcome to try his luck with Ireland?

There would be no "oath of allegiance" to the IFA.

What part of nothing I propose is in breach of a players rights to switch under FIFA's Statutes are you struggling to understand?
23/05/2012, 3:39 PM
ifk101

Quote:

Originally Posted by Not Brazil

There would be no "oath of allegiance" to the IFA.

What part of nothing I propose is in breach of a players rights to switch under FIFA's Statutes are you struggling to understand?

What am I failing to understand? You call it one thing. I just call it an oath of allegiance for lack of better wording. Jeez ....
23/05/2012, 3:41 PM
ifk101

Why don't you tell why Alex Bruce is an exception as I hear he is very enthusiastic about playing for your wee country. Similar to a new call-up for the Holland game.
23/05/2012, 3:43 PM
Not Brazil

Quote:

Originally Posted by DannyInvincible

But what about future hypothetical examples who would fall under your proposal? They tell the IFA that there is no decision to make as the FAI is their first port of call (just like you seek), until they return to the IFA a few years later declaring their interest in representing NI after failing to have represented the FAI at senior competitive level...

If there is no decision to make a player would presumably not accept a call up to the Northern ireland Under 19s...and would have the door of the FAI knocked asap?

I'll give you an example - young Boy George did the honourable thing. He has chased his dream from the start. He did not, to the best of my knowledge, make publicly disparaging comments about the IFA.

Whilst I predict he will have a big future with the FAI (if he avoids injury), and is true enough to his identity that he would not play for the IFA, if things don't work out for him and he has a change of heart, I would have him back tomorrow.

I respect that he has chased his dream from the start.

Bruce is a different kettle of fish.
23/05/2012, 3:45 PM
Predator

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

...they could start off with the FAI at Under 19.

If that doesn't work out for them, they can switch to the IFA.

Just like Alex Bruce.
23/05/2012, 3:46 PM
Predator

Didn't P. George play for Northern Ireland representative teams?
23/05/2012, 3:47 PM
Not Brazil

Quote:

Originally Posted by ifk101

Why don't you tell why Alex Bruce is an exception as I hear he is very enthusiastic about playing for your wee country. Similar to a new call-up for the Holland game.

As I say, I don't think Bruce will ever be selected to play for Northern Ireland.

His, erm, new found enthusiasm for our cause may well be misplaced.

Whilst I am a little annoyed about one of the call ups to our squad to play Holland, I don't see anyone there who is remotely similar to Bruce.
23/05/2012, 3:48 PM
Not Brazil

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Originally Posted by Predator

Didn't P. George play for Northern Ireland representative teams?

Not at Under 19 and above.

I'm not interested in anything before that.
23/05/2012, 3:49 PM
Not Brazil

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Originally Posted by Predator

Just like Alex Bruce.

Mr Bruce hasn't switched, as he has not been selected to play for the IFA.

I doubt he ever will be.
23/05/2012, 3:50 PM
osarusan

Multiquote it, quick!
23/05/2012, 3:51 PM
Not Brazil

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Originally Posted by ifk101

What am I failing to understand? You call it one thing. I just call it an oath of allegiance for lack of better wording. Jeez ....

You seem to be failing to understand the rights of a player to switch under FIFA Statutes - I don't want to do anything that breaches said Statutes, as I have said repeatedly.

Do you have a scooby doo what an "oath of allegiance" is?

What I propose involves no paperwork.
23/05/2012, 3:58 PM
Not Brazil

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Originally Posted by Predator

Go on, spit it out.

Sorry, missed this earlier.

It seems that Poster Boy McClean, in between getting his photo taken with The President of the Irish Republic, had a bit of an altercation with a sniffer dog at HMP Maghaberry whilst on a visit there to see his mate, Sean Cruickshanks - the convicted murderer of a young man from Donegal*

Not the nicest of friends, if you ask me. Not sure I'd feel comfortable in that kind of company.

Good footballer though.

*As reported in the Sunday World newspaper at the weekend.
23/05/2012, 4:03 PM
Predator

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

Mr Bruce hasn't switched, as he has not been selected to play for the IFA.

I doubt he ever will be.

You make an unnecessary distinction. The fact is, when faced with a choice, Bruce chose the FAI and now that it appears to not have worked out, he has made himself available for selection by the IFA. So what you propose as a solution effectively contradicts your militant opposition to Bruce.

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