Cork City denied a licence; club to be wound up; FORAS to enter First Division

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Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid

Its not the initial team that will define how this and the next few seasons will go - that will clearly be defined on the level of support it gets - If the so called great Cork sporting public get out and support Cork City Foras Co-op then this will be a sucessful venture with great possibilities into the future.

Or after a few months apathy will reign again and this team will never be better than an average semi-pro / amateur set-up. I think its counter productive discussing who will sign / who wont sign etc - we should be focusing on giving whatever support we can muster over the next year, 5 years and into the future.

The BoM is not going to let us down - lets give them every support we can.

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Funnily enough, I was chatting to a friend of mine last night. He's a football fan, would never support Cork City, he's not a begrudger, just not a supporter. I was on about the new club last night and he seemed genuinely interested.

Something fan owned will ring a bell with a lot of football fans - goodwill should be fairly high - could add to the gates this season at least.

WHile I don't disagree. It'f be foolish to bank on any goodwill at the start. NO doubt there are people tired of the whole thing too

More in the world of Cork City:

It appears that last night www.ccfcforum.com was hacked.

TOMMY'S REVENGE!

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Originally Posted by Pablo Escobar

you can't deny that the player pool is there

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With all due respect to the players not attached to clubs, if they were good enough, clubs would have signed them by now. Maybe the reason they haven't been signed is down to clubs' budgets/players' wage demands, but if they were good enough, surely a deal would be hammered out.
So no, I don't expect you to be just one season in the First Division

back online now!

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Originally Posted by rambler14

More in the world of Cork City:

It appears that last night www.ccfcforum.com was hacked.

TOMMY'S REVENGE!

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He wouldn't have the brains or the money for something like that...a quick google on the Ghost fella shows that he's a lot of previous for this type of thing.Reckon a lot of LOI fans will be getting email addresses sold to spam lists soon

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Originally Posted by WoodquayBoy

With all due respect to the players not attached to clubs, if they were good enough, clubs would have signed them by now. Maybe the reason they haven't been signed is down to clubs' budgets/players' wage demands, but if they were good enough, surely a deal would be hammered out.
So no, I don't expect you to be just one season in the First Division

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I think he's talking about the local Cork player pool, many of which would rather stay in Cork than play for a pittance in Galway, Longford or Dublin

In fairness, Cork's A teamand U21 teams have always been strong. I've no doubt's they're better placed than most to recover

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Originally Posted by Dodge

WHile I don't disagree. It'f be foolish to bank on any goodwill at the start. NO doubt there are people tired of the whole thing too

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Oh defintely not banking on it - FORAS won't either.

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Originally Posted by Dodge

I think he's talking about the local Cork player pool, many of which would rather stay in Cork than play for a pittance in Galway, Longford or Dublin

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Quite a lot have already gone to Waterford.

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Originally Posted by WoodquayBoy

With all due respect to the players not attached to clubs, if they were good enough, clubs would have signed them by now. Maybe the reason they haven't been signed is down to clubs' budgets/players' wage demands, but if they were good enough, surely a deal would be hammered out.
So no, I don't expect you to be just one season in the First Division

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And I don't expect us to go up in one season. But I think we'll have a strong showing. And see Dodge's post above.

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Originally Posted by higgins

You are supposed to go from A Championship -> First Division -> Premier Division
It just so happened that only 20 clubs received eiter a Premier or First divsion licence.
Allowing the new Derry and Cork take the First division spots when they just so happened to get a First Division licence at the first time of asking, despite one of them missing the original deadline.

Two companies who have never before owned a football club let alone take part in senior football.

Of course it all just happened by chance that only 20 clubs got a licence making way for them two to be bumped up past the A Championship.

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I'm almost certain that Derry were not late with their licence application. FORAS certainly weren't with theirs - unlike TNB & Co.

Another website replies to the same person who hacked the Cork forums. :p

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Originally Posted by Shedendinvisibl

FORAS had weeks, even months to square a deal but they clearly didn't bother their arses half as much as they claim to have. Even dealing with the inaccurate figures given by TNB they knew the club was in dire straits from last season and could have and should have made greater effort to take on the club back then when it was in some shape and sitting pretty with sponsors and some dignity. Instead they were more concerned with pretending to be moral crusaders at the hour in need; it was akin to calling the undertaker ahead of the ambulance at a crash scene. All they were doing was papering over the cracks of their own folly of not sorting it out earlier to appear to be the great white hope, Tom Coughlan patterned wallpaper that they will reuse anytime FORAS Alberts foul up in 2010.

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I have to say I find your post rather strange. You post on something that judging by your post you have no knowledge of. By all means have a rant but at least try & make some sense.

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Wait, you want us to take Cork people a) at their word and b) as sane? Sorry El, that ship has sailed ;) Tommy's ruined it for the rest of you

(or to answer your question, the holding company can easily have a different brand logo than the club)

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Are you saying Cork people are liars,insane or what. Thankfully not all Cork people are like Tom Coughlan.

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Originally Posted by tonydaly

Are you saying Cork people are liars,insane or what. Thankfully not all Cork people are like Tom Coughlan.

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No, I was joking that the antics of Tom would tar you all.

I obviously forgot about humourless

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Originally Posted by Dodge

No, I was joking that the antics of Tom would tar you all.

I obviously forgot about humourless

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Thats better.Thank you for mentioning it. Were proud of our lack of humour down here. Although you'd need a sense of humour to follow the League of Ireland.:D

A very decent summation of this sorry affair bu Daniel McDonnell in the Indo today.

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Originally Posted by Mr A

A very decent summation of this sorry affair bu Daniel McDonnell in the Indo today.

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Excellent piece. He's probably the first journalist to get all the facts right in this whole sorry mess.:ball:

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Originally Posted by Pablo Escobar

And I don't expect us to go up in one season. But I think we'll have a strong showing. And see Dodge's post above.

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Fair enough, though with Waterford, Derry and Shels in the League as well, my point is, with 9 days to the season, I would doubt you'll finish top 5. Just an opinion.

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Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid

Oh defintely not banking on it - FORAS won't either.

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What it does do is call the bluff of some of the "boycotters" of Cork City. Surely no excuse now not to get behind the new club and if the support does come out I would see them as contenders for promotion this year.