Pats brought more than 1100 to Tallaght in both league games this season as well as 1500 for a glorified friendly in February. Allocation sold out on all 3 occasionsQuote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
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Pats brought more than 1100 to Tallaght in both league games this season as well as 1500 for a glorified friendly in February. Allocation sold out on all 3 occasionsQuote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
I think I'll be in a zimmerframe by the time Harps build that stadium.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Sorry to hear you're planning on having those sort of health issues in the coming years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Partizan
Well that’s already been disproven by the post above.Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
I’d say that Bohs, Pats and Shels would easily bring a lot more fans to Tallaght than Derry. Often more than 1100, as long as they’re offered the tickets.
The Rovers/Bohs match is quite a big event these days. I’d say a few hundred neutrals and day trippers go along to that one, as well as it bringing casual fans out of the woodwork.
Keeping it empty would be a bit weird, especially if games are on tv it would look better to put fans in it.
Dublin City Council gives the Option 3A Dalymount development the green light - on the one hand, a compact, four-stand, almost 8,000 capacity ground would seem ideal for Bohs, but on the other, after all the protracted planning so far, fans will have to wait a further three years for completion:
https://bohemianfc.com/?p=18646
Ant word on how much the Harps fundraiisng draw raised Nigel ? What's the plan to make up the shortfall if there was one?Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Isn't 8,000 bigger than the previous proposal (6k) ?Quote:
Originally Posted by culloty82
So long as the design enables future expansion if required, then this is probably about as much as Bohs fans could hope for in reality. They're not in a great position to try to call the shots really.
Never heard any figure yet. It's just one of a number of fundraising initiatives though. Sponsorship will play a big part in it, especially naming rights.Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
€40 million.Quote:
Originally Posted by culloty82
The boom is back baby.
This is disappointing news to some extent. This is a new stadium and the orientation of the pitch changed estimated €40 million . The last word from Bohs was a renovated Jodi and new stand on the Connaught side with stands or safe terracing behind the goals. Leave the orientation of the pitch capacity approx 10,000 estimate €30 million, but as you say as long as it enables future expansion it will have to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
I’m worried about this proposal. Something is just off with this plan and the never ending stadium saga. €40 million will become €50 million due to delays and rising costs and it will be back to the drawing board for option 3a(ii)Quote:
Originally Posted by culloty82
Why not just stick a stand in opposite the jodi and have safe terracing on both ends? Is this just the council looking for "community facilities" rather than just sorting the stadium?
Bohs wouldn't even have to move out to do what I'm suggesting.
Sometimes perfection is the enemy of getting things done
Can they put anything decent down the shopping center end if the the pitch orientation is left as is ?Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Bang on sbgawa! This has always been the most sensible option.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Maximum they’d be able to achieve would be a very thin stand. We’re talking a capacity of only a few hundred.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glen Of Aherlow
Could be a nice little away section though.
What UEFA category will it be? Bit pointless spending that kind of doh if you can't host European games there down the line
I’m fairly underwhelmed by this myself. Keeping the Jodi and the current pitch orientation and rebuilding the other 3 stands to an 9-10k capacity, with one big terrace at des Kelly end (option 2) seemed the best proposal all along. All the talk a few months ago was that a total rebuild was too costly and didn’t make sense. But now they’ve pulled an option 3 out of somewhere, which is basically option 1 with improved capacity.Quote:
Originally Posted by ger121
All this faffing around is getting annoying. Option 2 would have been the cheapest and best option for all.
Am I the only person who thinks €40 million is an insane amount of money for a stadium of this size?
It won’t stop at €40 million either.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Everything about this decision is mental.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
I checked Twitter earlier and in the hundreds of comments about it I didn’t see any in favour, not one.
Where will Bohs play when they have to move out for a while? Inichicore or Tolka?
Well if Twitter says no I guess that’s itQuote:
Originally Posted by Philosophizer
I’m not saying that it will make any impact on the development. Just interesting to note that of the hundreds of Bohs fans talking about it I’ve yet to see a positive comment, including on here. That says something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glen Of Aherlow
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Originally Posted by joey B
Morton :p
Happy memories!!Quote:
Originally Posted by ger121
A special place in the heart of Bohs fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by joey B
Only saw this article today: https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/...-41002226.html
Saw in a news item. Ireland to be part of a joint bid for 2028 Euros and massive investment in the Aviva and Croke Park. Ffs if there was an investment in fly fishing Croke Park and The GAA would get a share. The link to the news item would not copy for me.
Seen in paper today that there would have to be a revamp of Croke Park for this to be feasible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shinkicker
Typical of the GAA to get a leg up from the investment. The money would be better used to revamp 2 existing Soccer grounds like Dalymount and Richmond or Tolka, OR one in Dublin and one provincial along with the Aviva. There is no point investing in a stadium where LOI or Soccer ball will never be kicked. There is already(we have been told) €40million earmarked for Dalymount for 8,000 ish capacity put in another €?? million and create 20,000 - 25,000 capacity, then do the same for another selected ground and leave the legacy stadiums as a start of LOI ground investments. Use the three Grounds to host games targeting smaller fixtures for the smaller grounds and the Aviva for bigger fixtures.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
You may agree or disagree but my point is give the GAA nothing from an investment in soccer.
You wont fit 25000 onto the Dalymount site but i take your point.
Not sure but id say the same re Tolka.
Pats green field site they had proposed to move to could work or build a new Stadium for Cork or Galway maybe
You could fit in dalymount if they used the same idea as at this year's world cup - two-tier stadium where the top tier will be taken off & moved to fil in a different stadium after the event. Crazy outside the box thinking, but we'll soon know if it works.
It does grate to see the GAA getting even more of a handout for this - but the problem is that the needs of a major UEFA tournament and those of the LOI do not overlap at all really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shinkicker
UEFA won't be looking to put games in a 20-25,000 stadium in Dublin. It's a capital city and a key location, so they'll want to put a quarter final or semi-final there as well as group games. So they'll be looking for at least twice that capacity. 20-25,000 would be far too big for LOI clubs anyway, and detract form the atmosphere IMO. Linfield getting crowds of 2,500 in the 18,500 capacity Windsor Park is not a good experience, and it wouldn't help the LOI to have something similar.
The problem at the moment is that we don't really know what the natural demand and capacity limit is currently for LOI clubs. We know that a number of grounds sell out regularly (Tallaght, Richmond, Dalymount, Brandywell), and we've seen the potential at certain clubs in Cup Final attendances and European fixtures. But we don't know what the high-water mark is for these clubs. Rovers are probably the best supported in the league at the moment (though Derry fans would have a case for disputing that after Sunday's turnout), so I'd suggest we need to wait and see what happens when Tallaght has a 10,000 capacity. Will it sell out regularly, or will that size prove to be about right for the club for the foreseeable future.
For it to be the right size, I think it has to sell out occassionally for the big matches. There's a balance there somewhere. Remains to be seen with the increase in Tallaght but the crowds are higher than I would've thought. A few years ago I would've said 10k capacity is too much for a LOI side but there's a stronger counter argument to that now.Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
The proposed capacity of around 7,800 or so for Dalymount at the moment seems just right for Bohs. It's still massively ambitious to reach a point where it's justified. There'll still be people screaming that it's too low. It could very definitely turn out to be too big, although again signs are good. If it actually gets built of course. Always in danger of looking a bit silly talking about proposed LOI grounds when you look back in a few years, months...
Do you not need 8,000 to host European group stage games ? That would feel like the right kind of level for a stadium north of the Liffey.Quote:
Originally Posted by bohsmug
Well I wouldn't be against 8,000 either. Anything in and around that number is excellent. From what I've heard Dalymount would need a derogation either way because it won't reach UEFA category 4 status due to all the other things needed to reach that level. So on that front, I don't know if capacity would be the biggest hurdle for group stage football should the current proposal be realised.Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
Its a pity that Windsor Park wasnt considered considering that NI is part of the 5 nation bid.I know thats it small but there always seems to be a great atmosphere at NI matches.
Windsor is far too big for Linfield, but far to small for anything in international football. If common sense was at play then Linfield would move elsewhere and the ground would be expanded a bit at some point. But for lots of reasons that won't happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
Was a great atmosphere in the 1993 world cup playoff alrightQuote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
But sure what capacity is it now 18k or something like that? Far too small for a European championship
https://www.derryjournal.com/sport/f...tadium-3923579
Interesting article here. Taking along the FAI to a meeting with the council, and implying that the club may help with the costs of switching the pitch back to grass.