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16/01/2011, 12:25 AM
tetsujin1979

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

it wasnt a great penalty like the FSC commentator would have you beleive. If hart had guessed the right side he would have saved it.

auntie, balls, uncle. That whole thing.
16/01/2011, 12:22 PM
paul_oshea

no tets, a good penalty is right in the corner, all doyles had was power, it was pretty much middle left. anytime the keeper dives the right side its a save.
16/01/2011, 12:35 PM
osarusan

Quote:

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

no tets, a good penalty is right in the corner, all doyles had was power, it was pretty much middle left. anytime the keeper dives the right side its a save.

Have you considered the possibility that Doyle kicking the ball one way and the keeper diving the other way may not have been coincidental?
16/01/2011, 12:56 PM
paul_oshea

did you see the penalty, he went exactly where he looked.

The point is, at least 50% of the time the keeper dives the right way. If you hit it either high in the corner or right in the corner then it doesnt really matter if the keeper guesses right, because he wont get near it. Had hart guessed the right way everyone would be saying "poor penalty by doyle" etc etc. Its funny how yes/no ppl can be about it.
16/01/2011, 3:20 PM
osarusan

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

The point is, at least 50% of the time the keeper dives the right way.

You're discounting the possibility that something that Doyle did (or looked like doing) influenced the keeper's decision to move in a certain direction. Certainly, some keepers will just choose a side and dive there, and some players will just choose a side and kick the ball there, but there is such a thing as sending the keeper the wrong way, so I'm not sure your statistic is accurate. (That said, I think a lot of penalty takers get credit for 'sending the keeper the wrong way' when they may not have done so)

Pat Bonner always said he looked at the penalty taker's feet to help him decide which way the penalty would go. I know other keepers look at the distance between the non-striking foot and the ball, which others look at the extent to which the penalty taker's body is leaning away from the ball - there is logic to that which both keeper and penalty taker can try and use to their advantage. For some, if not all, it's more than just a case of a penalty taker and keeper just deciding to go one way or the other.
16/01/2011, 4:13 PM
Sullivinho

Quote:

Originally Posted by osarusan

Pat Bonner always said he looked at the penalty taker's feet to help him decide which way the penalty would go.

He can claim at least a 20% success rate for this method. :)
16/01/2011, 6:13 PM
tricky_colour

If you have seen the keeper move then all you need to do is make sure you don't
miss the goal. No point in putting it near the post - you might miss
16/01/2011, 7:18 PM
shakermaker1982

If you score it's a good penalty. If you miss it was crap. Simple.
16/01/2011, 11:30 PM
Charlie Darwin

Have just now seen the penalty. It wasn't unsaveable but it was quality.
17/01/2011, 11:30 PM
irishultra

doyle is my most favourite player but the guy really needs to get in better goal making positions...
18/01/2011, 7:43 AM
drummerboy

A good player but his lack of goals is one of the reasons why Wolves are in the relegation spot. He needs to start scoring and quickly.
18/01/2011, 8:17 AM
elroy

Quote:

Originally Posted by drummerboy

A good player but his lack of goals is one of the reasons why Wolves are in the relegation spot. He needs to start scoring and quickly.

I may get slated for this, but on current form (I know Doyler missed the last few wks with injury) Long is a better option than Doyle.
18/01/2011, 11:50 AM
Colbert Report

Big big difference between the Premiership and the Championship. It's like watching a different sport. I wouldn't be throwing Kevin Doyle on the scrap heap just yet.
18/01/2011, 11:52 AM
Junior

Nor Wardy as well I presume?
18/01/2011, 8:16 PM
Noelys Guitar

Just scored a great goal for Wolves against Doncaster. Wolves up 3-0
18/01/2011, 9:14 PM
tricky_colour

Ended up 5-1, I'd like to see him score more against better quality opposition.
I didn't see the goal.
Walters scored a good goal against a better team Cardiff, guided a (headed) corner in from a very narrow angle.
He just scored another, again good work from a similar narrow angle.
18/01/2011, 11:37 PM
Noelys Guitar

Here are all the Wolves goals from last night http://www.goalstube.com/504353/Wolv...ighlights.html
05/02/2011, 5:11 PM
Colbert Report

First goal for Doyle at home since May, Wolves up 2-1 over Manchester United now, almost halftime.
05/02/2011, 5:12 PM
theworm2345

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Originally Posted by Colbert Report

First goal for Doyle at home since May, Wolves up 2-1 over Manchester United now, almost halftime.

Maybe...not sure if its his or Elokobi's goal. Either way, I'm happy :D
05/02/2011, 5:22 PM
Noelys Guitar

Definite last touch by Doyle on the side of his face. They all count. Would love to see Wolves win this match and Doyle score again. And we need to chase down O'Hara and Hamill. Both playing very well.
05/02/2011, 5:23 PM
Charlie Darwin

How dare any of you cheer for Wolves ahead of Ireland's favourite team.
05/02/2011, 5:27 PM
tricky_colour

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Originally Posted by theworm2345

Maybe...not sure if its his or Elokobi's goal. Either way, I'm happy :D

I just caught the goal on a stream, it was a scrappy sort of goal, cross came in and Doyle went to head it the it seemed to go in off Elokobi perhaps.
Doyle seemed to pointing to his cheek may, indicatint it came off there.
BBC has it listed as Doyles goal.

Would be nice it Wolves went on the win this one, but hard to see them holding on to the lead against Man U.
However I notice the team at the top often seems to loose to the the team at bottom - I think I will
check out the odds on a Wolves win - 2.55 that's about 6/4 not worth the risk, surprised they are so short.
05/02/2011, 5:28 PM
Charlie Darwin

I'd say the odds are short because they've already beaten Chelsea, Liverpool and Manchester City this year.
05/02/2011, 5:29 PM
Colbert Report

Quote:

Originally Posted by tricky_colour

I just caught the goal on a stream, it was a scrappy sort of goal, cross came in and Doyle went to head it the it seemed to go in off Elokobi perhaps.
Doyle seemed to pointing to his cheek may, indicatint it came off there.
BBC has it listed as Doyles goal.

Would be nice it Wolves went on the win this one, but hard to see them holding on to the lead against Man U.
However I notice the team at the top often seems to loose to the the team at bottom - I think I will
check out the odds on a Wolves win - 2.55 that's about 6/4 not worth the risk, surprised they are so short.

Pinnacle have Wolves at +136 to win, which is just better than 4/3 for you crazy Europeans and your fractional odds.
05/02/2011, 6:11 PM
tricky_colour

Much prefer the fractional odds as it's what I am used to eg 6/4 bet �4 and �6 back.
Still surprised there is not money on Man U, there are 10 minutes to go and you can
get better then 3-1 on a draw and 18-1 on the win.
Man U can easily score a couple of goal in a couple of minutes and often do, especially
late on in the game. I fancy there may be a bit of match rigging going on here!!

When was the last time Wolves beat Man U?
05/02/2011, 6:17 PM
tetsujin1979

Quote:

Originally Posted by tricky_colour

Much prefer the fractional odds as it's what I am used to eg 6/4 bet �4 and �6 back.
Still surprised there is not money on Man U, there are 10 minutes to go and you can
get better then 3-1 on a draw and 18-1 on the win.
Man U can easily score a couple of goal in a couple of minutes and often do, especially
late on in the game. I fancy there may be a bit of match rigging going on here!!

When was the last time Wolves beat Man U?

I remember Kenny Miller scored against them to win, according to ESPN it was 7 years ago!
05/02/2011, 6:19 PM
SkStu

and United were first and Wolves were last then too.
05/02/2011, 6:20 PM
Colbert Report

Looks like a broken nose for Doyle in injury time.

edit: just a nosebleed, he's still on.

Great win for Wolves.
05/02/2011, 6:29 PM
Noelys Guitar

Great win for Wolves and MOM performance from Doyle. Great hold up play and gave Evans a torrid time. Doyle looks like he has a broken nose. That was a heavy knock he took from Smalling.
05/02/2011, 6:33 PM
irishultra

if doyle actually cud score more hed be 1 of the better strikers(outside top 4) in the league..im not talkin 20/15 goals a season just 9 or 10 wud be fine
05/02/2011, 6:34 PM
geysir

According to Fox tv, Doyle was the motm.
I wouldn't be too fussed if he had to miss the Wales game. It's enough to know that he is on top of his game.
05/02/2011, 6:36 PM
Charlie Darwin

Quote:

Originally Posted by irishultra

if doyle actually cud score more hed be 1 of the better strikers(outside top 4) in the league..im not talkin 20/15 goals a season just 9 or 10 wud be fine

He got 9 last year, didn't he? Still plenty of time to match that this year.
05/02/2011, 6:36 PM
tricky_colour

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkStu

and United were first and Wolves were last then too.

Yep if you want to make money better back the team at the bottom to beat the team at the top, it seems
to happen far more often than it should. I used to do a similar thing when I used to bet on the dogs, I'd look
for the biggest outsider in the race, getting odds of 10 or 20-1 and more often than not it woudl win!!
05/02/2011, 6:39 PM
geysir

When you retired from the dog betting, you must have been one rich punter.
05/02/2011, 7:04 PM
Drumcondra 69er

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colbert Report

Looks like a broken nose for Doyle in injury time.

edit: just a nosebleed, he's still on.

Great win for Wolves.

Looked broken in his post match interview.
05/02/2011, 7:24 PM
tricky_colour

unfortunately all of it went on the horses, where I could not pick a winner to save my life :D
05/02/2011, 7:33 PM
tricky_colour

http://www.soccernirvana.com/epl/wol...ce23e71ea.html

GOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!! !!
08/02/2011, 7:22 PM
paul_oshea

Doyle needs to do more of that direct running.
06/03/2011, 3:24 PM
theworm2345

1-0 to Wolves, nice header from Doyle
06/03/2011, 3:24 PM
tetsujin1979

Scored with a close range header at the near post against Spurs, zero marking from Spurs

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