That’s absolutely shocking. Lost the heads in bloody injury time after such a composed second half. Disaster.
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That’s absolutely shocking. Lost the heads in bloody injury time after such a composed second half. Disaster.
Shot themselves in the foot right at the death. Tie over.
You had to, didn't you!Quote:
Originally Posted by D24Saint
Killer that. Played well second half.
What an utter nonsense of a concession there. Good god. I was just about to say they've done enough in the 2nd half to show they can get to the E.Con Group stages, but conceding goals like that are another LOI in Europe staple.
Did you see the first half ? Much improved performance from Rovers in the seconD half.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
And as I type, there’s the killer blow.
It reminds me of watching the Irish team in the 70’s. Play well to a degree ( second half anyway) but lose goals at crucial times.
My god Lee Grace. FFs.
zagreb also losing
From their own free kick and all. Really poor.Quote:
Originally Posted by D24Saint
That'll be hard to take after a decent second half.
They played well in the 2nd but a sucker punch was always a possibility. They made a couple of poor errors at the back in the last few mins and were finally punished. Shame about the result. 2-0 was probably fair and would have kept the tie interesting for next week.
They’ll be hoping Zagreb do a number on the Macedonians.
1-1 now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Asterix
Not a sucker punch , simply disgraceful defending…. Don’t think we’d beat them even if it stayed 2-0 but at least we’d of had some hope … now a dead rubber …. Two things we learned tonight (1) Mannus still best keeper in the league and (2) Sean Hoare is uselessQuote:
Originally Posted by Philosophizer
The result I feared. Burke made a huge difference so it's a shame we couldn't have himself and Byrne fit and ready for this. Obviously the gulf in class probably meant the result was always going to be the same but when you see how often our play broke down via Watts it's hard not to wonder if we could have kept it closer with better players in the final third.
Ironically 3-0 maybe gives ye a better chance at a result in Tallaght. But I think realistically it was always going to be about the EL tie against Shkupi. Ludogorets are a huge step up and showed that today. No particular shame in the performance overall I think. The last kick of the game is obviously a nasty way to concede.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calcio Jack
Well there ye go, the calamity moment just as yer thinking there's some redemption after a tough 1st half and a decent 2nd and the tie still just about alive. 2nd half was Rovers getting up to speed and Ludogorets taking the foot off the gas/tiring. Burke and other subs made a difference. Agent Hoare losing his man (I thnk he was just outmuscled than switched off) and getting a head on the one deflected past his keeper will hurt though that last one in particular was a mess bar Mannus looking like he was digging things out of a hole. They were quite a cranky team, i'd say fairly easy to wind up. Some of these sides look insulted if someone has tried to give 'em a game. The longer ye stay in Europe the more ye adapt and tune in so today and next week become prep for the ECL play-off round and go again.
just needlessly giving fodder to Paul O'Shea with that type of remark :DQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
There's not really a shame in the result, i agree. Ludogorets are quality, they've been a step above anything we have to offer making group stages of CL or EL for fun over the last 6-7 years. A positive result from the return leg, points for the coeff and Rovers can hold their heads up.
Good points re staying in Europe and adapting…. But we also need to have both of the Glimmer twins fit and playing … the difference made by Burke for last half hour was astounding ( albeit he almost gave a goal with a sloppy pass) would be of been far more close if we had him and Byrne in from the start….. their fittness or not will decide as to whether we make the group stage of the Conference leagueQuote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Maybe I'm just used to Rovers dominating games in LOI, but that was absolute dog€hit from the Hoops.
The opposition had literally stopped playing in the 2nd half and were conserving their energy in the heat, and we play it around at the back like we're 4 0 up against UCD with a minute to go.
Amatuer rubbish
Only Gaffney and Mannus played like they can, the rest were distinctly sub par.
If Rovers play like that in the rest of the European games we'll get beaten by every side. I'd go home and kick my cat but I love him too much.
We might find out in 20 years, but doubt it was as daft as this https://www.rte.ie/news/2022/0719/13...pers-campbell/Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyD
I see Linfield 1 up against Bodo
Linfield go 1-0 up on Bodo/Glimt, who beat Roma 6-1 last year.
I thought they were very lucky against KI in the last round after winning the 1st leg 3-0.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Same thing happened Rovers in the away game against Tallinn last year. Just got back into the game and then conceded a stupid goal near the end. Will they ever learn? It's the difference between a sold-out, rocking Tallaght next week and a few thousand who will turn up only because they bought their tickets already. So frustrating.
You werent hammered (losing by 4 or more is a hammering) but there is no sense of contentment PC!Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
These guys will do to us what we did to Hibs, hold us at arms length and with the quality they have up front hard not to see them scoring.
Its Europa League for us now.
Really disappointing that last goal just killed it.
I was looking forward to a rocking Tallaght stadium at 2 nil.
Still think we will get 5k + at least but it wont sell out now.
At least Dynamo Zagreb have got it back from 1 nil down to be 2 to 1 up
Nope - 2-2 now
Looks like Shkupi could be half decent, which isn't good news
Or Dinamo having a poor nightQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
It is damn annoying when a team doesnt seem to learn from previous errors. Dundalk's Achilles heal for a spell was conceding right on half time domestically and in Europe with, Zenit, 2 v Rosenborg standing out but also against Levadia and Vitesse. Different management for some but I remember Stephen Kenny completely lose it with his own players, a rarity, against Rosenborg after emphasising the need to stay switched on right to the whistle and not be clock watching appraoching HT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Straightstory
Rovers the only team to lose tonight by more than one goal in the Champions League Qualifiers. Its a very bad result to already be out of the tie. With the results and performances of Derry and Sligo (dispite winning) it is shaping up to be a bad year in Europe for Irish Teams.
... Also I think nights like tonight remind you how good Dundalk run was from 2013 in Europe. Some parts are definitley underplayed especially the result against Sheriff Tiraspol.
Depressed as I am I think you are being to pessimistic. Even assuming we go out in this round we have two more cracks at group stages.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiki Balboa
Lots to hope for yet.
Like the results against Larnaca , Bratislava , Qarabag and Celje ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiki Balboa
How come there was only about 20 fans there tonight?
Drew at home to Larnaca and Qarabag in the first legs, conceded two 90th min goals against Celje in a one-off game, and with Bratislava, after being overwhelmed in the first 20min of the first leg, played well and got one back before conceding another 93rd minute to push the tie realistically out of reach. Their keeper also gave a Man of the Match performance in both games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Asterix
Not saying they were good performances, but still competive for the most part (keeping the second leg alive mostly). If the Larnaca away game happened first, maybe it would be similar... but Dundalk went into the second leg thinking we had a chance (guess who was the 'star' performer for Dundalk that night).
Total disaster travel wise, I don't think people realise how expensive rare seats are at the moment particularly to places that are off the beaten track. If we are playing in North Macedonia next it's also not easy dublin London belgrade Skopje.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah
Kind of funny when u look at sligo playing in Wales than Scotland.
Hopefully the play off round in the conference if we lose the next round or the po round for europa league if we win throws up a trip that doesn't mean u are away for 4 or 5 days
Fine example that the details get dropped over time and people just look at the score. Of the games mentioned it was really only Larnaca that tore us apart in that 2nd leg. BATE in the 1st leg in 2016 was another that we should have had our heads handed to us but hung on and in the tie and the 2nd leg the whole thing was famously flipped. The error that always jumps out was chasing Legia in the Aviva when we went 1 down and them getting a 2nd as we pushed on - decided the tie really especially in the away goal era, instead of it being patient and go at them away where things could have been leveled by Benson in Warsaw, we needed to throw everything at them. There wasnt much point in playing it safe when on the way out so games mentioned above did include late goal clinchers when we had to roll the dice (worked against Levadia). You didnt fail to react though Asterix and what was said is a valid point, that some of Dundalk's results in Europe over that period may be understated, particularly in the context of the recent questioning here of the leagues progression or regression.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiki Balboa
Holy feck ! :eek: I'd never heard about that beforeQuote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
I can't help thinking if Rovers had gone for flat back 4 (with Hoare out of it), central duo of Pico / Grace, started Gannon (no LOI player last 10 years more experienced than raiding up the wing / triangle football) and possibly play Lyons on the left, they would have much more solid shape. With that system also you can really press high, I`m amazed SB doesn't see this.
Not a fan of this 3 at back, wasn't also under Filipo at DFC even though it ended up with a cup final win, not for me.
Who understates them though really? You were the talk of the country. It was infuriating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Completely daft isnt it, didnt know where to post it but its as mad a suggestion Ive ever heard on peace and reconciliation. If Dundalk and Pats had to swap out colours last Friday it still wouldnt be as wth was Campbell thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens