v. Hibs 1,175
v. Harps 1,224
v. Derry 1,192
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v. Hibs 1,175
v. Harps 1,224
v. Derry 1,192
Cheers Thomas! You haven't anything for the Drogheda game, have you?Quote:
Originally Posted by thomas
Updates after the weekend. Last season in brackets. Both divisions' averages sink to below last year... :(
PREMIER
Bohs 2202 (2340)
Bray 1779 (818) (missing Longford)
Cork 3592 (4033)
Derry 2589 (1672)
Drogheda 1834 (1554)
Harps 1478 (1106)
Longford 1165 (1131)
Pat's 1792 (1882)
Rovers 1896 (1466) (missing Drogheda)
Shels 2012 (2158)
UCD 760 (306)
Waterford 1244 (1753)
FIRST
Athlone 336 (291) (missing Monaghan)
Cobh 362 (240)
Dublin City 165 (592)
Dundalk 262 (591)
Galway 634 (571)
Kildare 227 (298) (missing Dundalk and Kilkenny)
Kilkenny 133 (108) (missing Athlone, Dundalk, Kildare, Monaghan and Sligo)
Limerick 844 (188) (missing Kildare)
Monaghan 181 (182) (missing Cobh and Kildare)
Sligo 1567 (781)
Premier Division - 1832 (1863)
First Division - 505 (515)
Weekend matches missing -
Kilkenny v. Sligo
Limerick v. Kildare
The usual 150 or so at DC vs. Monaghan.
Comparisons to last season -
Drogheda United v Cork City - 1700 (2004 - 1898)
Finn Harps v Bohemians - 800 (n/a)
Shamrock Rovers v Derry City - 1192 (1000)
UCD St. Patrick’s Athletic - 850 (n/a)
Waterford United v Bray Wanderers - 700 (n/a)
Athlone Town v Dublin City - 250 (n/a)
Cobh Ramblers v Galway United - 350 (210)
Kilkenny City v Sligo Rovers - no figure (no figure)
Limerick v Kildare County - no figure (no figure)
Monaghan United v Dundalk - 200 (275)
Quick summary -
2 up
2 down
4 no corresponding fixture
2 figures to come
Premier Division average - 1446 (1449)
First Division average - 275 (243)
Are these official attendances?
A group of us came over from England for four games in three days, including a pre season match at Coleraine.
We did a rough 'head count' about halfway through the first half in each game. We counted everyone behind the barriers, i.e. not including any playing staff, but everyone else. The paying attendance will naturally be lower than this!
Fri 15 - Athlone Town v. Dublin City (280)
Sat 16 - Coleraine v. Rushden & Diamonds (410)
Sat 16 - Finn Harps v. Bohemians (1,100)
Sun 17 - Monaghan United v. Dundalk (220)
For the Finn Harps game, there were approx - Open side (180), Open terrace behind goal (400), Seats (120) and Covered terrace (400). I'd guess there were about 400-500 Bohs fans there. It did appear that a number of supporters, particularly on the covered side, went at half time, not to return!
I hope this is of help!?
Only for some clubs. Shels, Cork, St Pat's, Bohs, Limerick and Galway are the only clubs who release official attendances. The rest are "educated" guesses.Quote:
Originally Posted by niftynigel
Your figures for Athlone and Monaghan are fairly close to what we have alright, although the ones here may be a bit lower 'cos I like to tend on the low side to allow for some of the, shall we say "over-exuberant" guesses :) .
Harps is a bit out though - any Harps fans want to settle the difference?
As three of us counting independently came up with remarkably similar figures for Finn Harps, then I'd be surprised if it was finally settled at 800. I personally counted twice, so that's four (that ranged between approx 1,050 - 1,150).
However, we asked a very helpful steward what he considered to be the attendance and he said 800 !
After the game, we asked a man in the press box and he said it was around 1,500 !
Add the two together and divide by two and you get 1,150.
In non league football in England, there are many different policies on attendance calculations. Some leagues accept pay on the day only, other include season ticket holders, some 'add' a set amount to cover club officials, media etc and some just do a head count or estimate!
I think the League Of Ireland should stipulate that clubs report official attendances including all non playing staff, broken down in to paying spectators and complementaries and other freebies. A simple figure for each match could then be published for each match.
It's not that it's embarrasingly low figures as the Scottish Football League and Welsh Premier League openly publish theirs and there are some very low figures. I don't think the Irish League publish theirs either, do they?
I gave the original figure of 800 for harps/ Bohs and I emphasise it was a guess - my first time at finn park and it does help to know a ground; There wasn't anything like 4-500 Bohs fans there tho', that I do know; we brought maybe 200 which is pretty damn good for a 300 mile round trip, which means we could bring that to Derry, Cork and Waterford if the games were on Saturdays instead of Friday ( I know Derry usually are but we're now playing our rescheduled match on Tues. 2)
1,000 or so , I think :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
May up it to 1000 when I get the chance so.Quote:
Originally Posted by niftynigel
They are all required to do this. The problem is the FAI don't bother releasing the figures. Several people from here have asked, and been told that there were no plans to release figures and that they were just being gathered for information purposes. Personally, I think some clubs aren't complying yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigelnigel
[/QUOTE=nigelnigel]I don't think the Irish League publish theirs either, do they?[/QUOTE]
Nope.
Fridays this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonofstan
Limerick F.C. v Kildare County Friday evening was about 450 tops.
Listen closely, you can almost hear the sound of a bubble bursting :o
I recall around 450 being at the Athlone vs Mons GameQuote:
FIRST
Athlone 336 (291) (missing Monaghan)
Cobh 362 (240)
Dublin City 165 (592)
Dundalk 262 (591)
Galway 634 (571)
Kildare 227 (298) (missing Dundalk and Kilkenny)
Kilkenny 133 (108) (missing Athlone, Dundalk, Kildare, Monaghan and Sligo)
Limerick 844 (188) (missing Kildare)
Monaghan 181 (182) (missing Cobh and Kildare)
Sligo 1567 (781)
600, according to Rovers websiteQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
There was about 100 when Monaghan United visited KilkennyQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
600?! That's four times what they'ev gotten for any other game so far!!Quote:
Originally Posted by sligoman
I know it's not your guesstimate, but does anyone else have a more reliable guess?!
:D, Well Rovers supporters trust website estimated 200, so maybe that's more accurate?Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Around 600 at the Athlone game tonight. Saw maybe 40/50 from Dundalk
I'd say about 2,500-3,200 at the Carlisle tonight. Loadsa Shels fans. :o
They were probably hoping for an easy win..... :D
how many did Shels bring (guesstimate)?Quote:
Originally Posted by superfrank
btw, how many did we have in the Carlisle Grounds a few weeks ago?? I was out of the country so couldnt make it.
Attendence at 3000 tonite I think, possibly more but shar it was around 3000 in the anyway (as the famous Noel King once said). 800-1500 Shels fans :confused: (Bohs were the only team to bring more this season if my memory serves me correctly).Quote:
Originally Posted by DE TOWN
To answer your 2nd question I'd say twas around 50 if not more, hard to tell because there was a group of ye together and plenty of other jersey's spread over the ground so maybe it was more :confused:
1014 at Pats v Waterford (official).
Woeful, and getting worse. It'll be interesting to see what we get next weekend for the Cork match - seeing as it's on the Sunday afternoon of a bank holiday weekend, there's no excuse for Cork bringing anything less than 20,000.
OK, the fact that Richmond has a capacity of 5,500 MIGHT just be extenuating circumstances...
Estimated 5500 City v Rovers but official figure in couple of weeks could be lower.
Offcial Attendance for City v Bohs from couple of week ago was 3600.
Didn't think there were as many last night as there were at Bohs match - which your guesstimate put at 2,791 :) .Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevo Da Gull
Maybe 2,500? At least half of them Shels fans.
No more than 3,500 at it.
I also was out of the country for that one??Quote:
Originally Posted by DE TOWN
1883 for Derry v UCD (Semi offical figure)
I thought you'd be hitting bigger figures considering how well you're doing. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Maribor
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Originally Posted by DE TOWN
Awww, how cute. DE TOWN and superfrank went on holiday's together:p :D.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfrank
Feck off!!Quote:
Originally Posted by sligoman
Where did you actually go superfrank? just to make sure nothing fishy was going on ;)
This is the "Derry Holidays"- the weeks when all the shirt factories used to be off and everyone went on their holidays. Although the vast majority of factories remain, the tradition remains.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poor Student
Must be losin my marbles so :o , 2500 then :confused: . I think I'll wait till the day after before I come on here posting again, give myself time to calm down ;) . Do you think that there were more Bray fans last night than at the Bohs game, I said that only Bohs brought more but it seemed to be a similar attendence so maybe there were more home fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by REVIP
You decide, somewhere between 2500 and 2800 ... I'm confused.... :confused: ...... Sure I was born that way :eek: .
The seats looked 80% full (first half) and behind the goal had plenty of people as well, how full did the shed look?
The bad side of summer soccer. Glad to know the prospect of watching us alone didn't lower the attendence an excuse other teams use.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maribor
How many does the stand hold as a matter of interest? I counted 150 around the ground, not including the 5 on the hill behind the press stand and the two or three on the wall. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Maribor
I thought the Bray support was small compared to the Bohs match. Shed beyond the press box was empty until Shels fans moved into it in the second half.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevo Da Gull
Not sure what the Carlisle capacity is, Seagull Scene gives 5,000
http://www.worldstadiums.com/europe/.../ireland.shtml gives 6,500 -
2,500 seats (must count one of those blocks of seats sometime) 80% of that would be 2,000 plus say 400 at the end and 400 in the shed - say 2,801?
:)
Being pedantic I would have said less than 400 behind the goal, more like 200. The stand did seem 80% full but I've no idea what the capacity is and yeah around 400 in the shed. So around 2,601 :)
Well brief history lesson... Derry City had five figure crowds when they joined the League back in 1985.... and are the only team whose crowds have fallen by 600% in the last 20 years :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Poor Student
I know CTID but Derry hadn't played for what a decade or two before that? The whole novelty of actually having a team and playing in a different district as well as being successful helped.
Yes but they proved to be typically fickle Irish so called football supporters :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Poor Student