The solution is to ask kids to pass a picket??Quote:
Originally Posted by Bray Head
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The solution is to ask kids to pass a picket??Quote:
Originally Posted by Bray Head
Jaysis will u cool your jets, maybe see if a strike in bray works first before we go for a national all out strike..Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
Wil the buses be on strike as well :)
Lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Working lads left without money for six weeks.
Gas craic.
Will the buses be on strike aswell. ROFLMAO
Lulz.
Etc.
Cretin.
Bray players have voted for strike action.
Meanwhile Hugh Douglas has had to pay for his own treatment on a knee injury. https://twitter.com/hughie_douglas/s...27695843741696
I don't think asking a load of other lads to go and strike and lose their wages before seeing if the people who are affected can achieve something by going on strike themselves first is needed...my only net point.
I don't think anyone is anything other than ****ed off with the entire debacle there,
That is truly shocking, have the owners in Bray no idea of personal responsibility , FAI should intervene......Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
Just on the reforming thing, if Bray are to fold then I think Wicklow Wanderers would be better than limiting their support to Bray.
Presumably THE PFAI will be advising their members not to pass an official picket and their fellow members in the opposition will honor that ? it would be a surprise if PFAI allowed members pass one of their own official pickets. similarly as has been said, underage players are unlikely to pass an official picket ? When bray are playing away (say Dalymount for example) can they then picket that ground as their designated workplace ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
Oh, and will PFAI be pursuing the club legally for breach of contract ?
best Little league in the World :rolleyes:
That's an interesting one, if the Bray players were picketing and the Cork players wouldn't pass the picket what happens ??
Do they literally have to be in the ground to show they are in a position to play the fixture?
If the cork city players are unwilling to pass a picket then cork are not in a position to play the fixture.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
If the cork city players are willing to pass a picket they are all filthy dirty SCABS.
Either way I think we can all agree cork city must shoulder most of the blame for the situation.
Cork could arrive early before any picketers. Getting home might be more complicated but three points are three points.
Scabs F.C. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Longfordian
In all seriousness this raises a huge moral dilemma for Cork players to do their job for their club they have to pass a picket it’s slightly undiscovered country in the LOI.
I don't think there's any benefit to any one of letting that situation occur. I imagine City would be asking the FAI to confirm whether the game will be played before travelling.
That said, we've been in this position, and I can't imagine our lads passing a picket like this. It wouldn't be in the interest of any players in the league to do so. And they're PFAI members.
Tougher on the u19s to make that decision. Likely not PFAI members yet and they're basically kids.
Yeah I thought that earlier, if the 19s/17s get asked to turn out what will they do? You’d like to think their coaches would protect them and say no, but who knows?
I doubt it would come to the point of being a physical picket at the fixture. The players would assert their right to strike and the FAI would simply cancel the fixture with blame assigned to Bray Wanderers, so no picket for Cork to pass.
That would have to be it! Cork wont be put in the position of not fulfilling the fixture.
If Bray insist on their ability and intention to fulfill the fixture, it would present the FAI with a dilemma around potentially cancelling the fixture and awarding the match to the oppositionQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
FAI giving Bray until Monday to pay players or sanctions will be imposed
Fran refused to say what the sanctions would be. Points deduction I suppose?
And does the money to be paid include the cost of those knee surgeries?
Listen here to the Joanne Cantwell interview with Fran GavinQuote:
Originally Posted by MattB11
https://soundcloud.com/rtesport/fai-...to-pay-players
Hard to know what else I suppose. A transfer ban? Sure who'd sign for Bray now anyway. Relegation is surely inevitable on the pitch, so they can't be demoted.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
Really, this comes back to the lack of a pyramid. The correct thing to do - with the greatest of respect to Bray fans - is to relegate the club down to the regional leagues, let them restructure and claw their way back, and let a well-run club take their place in the LoI.
Possibly more likely is that we see Bray FC in the First Division next season, although where that leaves the lease on the Carlisle, I don't know.
And Bray FC can then in due course buy back the Bray Wanderers name and keep their roll of honour and history. The FAI need to incentivise somehow for clubs to want to join senior football. 3 or 5 years without having to pay participation fees might be a start.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
The biggest barrier to entry is the First Division.
Why would any non-league club look at Wexford and Cabinteely and say "Yep, that's what we want to be in five years"
16-team Premier; provincial leagues (LSL, etc) feeding into it; decent prize money; promoted clubs guaranteed a high-profile TV game in the first four weeks.
It wouldn't turn the league into the Norwegian league, but it'd go a hell of a way to improving it.
Getting new clubs is more important than helping our clubs in Europe at this stage.
Why is there a participation fee at all? Is that a mandate from UEFA? It seems wholly unnecessary.
Didn't the Icelandic league scrap it when they got into the Euros?
I think it's to pay for the running of the league. But the FAI badly need the league to keep producing players for the national team; they can't afford to tax it so heavily really
Would have much more respect for him if he came out saying the FAI has some responsibility, it’s a mess, we’re working to resolve and we’ll review the licensing process. Saying over and over again the licensing is independent and audited by UEFA is a pathetic response to Joanne’s questions really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
The Bray board receive the backing of the Athlone Town chairman's son. He better be careful or he might find a solicitor's letter in his letterbox!
https://twitter.com/JoeCassidyIRE/st...88008606736385
He was also on Newstalk on Saturday for a good long interview of passing the buck. I haven't listened to RTE version but from the comments here he basically gave the exact same BS to both.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulgufc
Save your breath for more important things.Quote:
Originally Posted by EAFC_rdfl
The mans a bluffer pure & simple.
Correct. Unless Bray inform the FAI that they are unable to fulfill a fixture then I'm suspect the fixture goes ahead and the issue of the opposition stance might be tested (will they pass a picket of their own union). ironic that it is Cork that may be in the invidious position as they were close to a similar scenario a number of years back (players refusing to fulfill a fixture).Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
Presumably, the FAI must do everything necessary - including rule changes if required, to prevent such an appalling scenario developing.
1 min to go for the FAI deadline.
This will be interesting to see if funds have been lodged or not. Disgrace the players probably checking their accounts every few hours.
Its now 5pm actually.
PFAI twitter account says no payments made
This is ridiculous, and surely illegal. If the club do go to the wall, what happens? Bray have nothing much in the way of assets, so debts would have to be settled by administrators for cents in the euro. Are Milway Dawn linked to any of Gerry Mulvey's other companies? If you're the director of a company that goes bankrupt, are there any consequences for you? I'm resigned to seeing Bray Wanderers in their current form die, but I want to see the people responsible suffer. I really don't want anyone who put the club and the players in this situation wind up the company and slither away with no punishment whatsoever.
Yes, there can be consequences for the directors Tom Coughlan was banned for 5 years from being director of any company
Could it be that the powers at Bray have decided that the best way of getting their hands on the Carlisle is to put Bray Wanderers out of existence??
It looks like a 9 team league for the rest of the season.
When was the last time that games were expunged from the league? Monaghan United?
I'm expecting Bray, Limerick and probably Athlone all to fold within 6-12 months. Sad times. Hope I'm wrong.
Of course it is. That's obviously been their plan all along. When the council shot down their idea of relocating the club outside the town and taking over the Carlisle, this was going to be their plan. It's time that whatever small amount of Bray fans are left bandied together and created a supporters trust capable of taking on an amateur side at least for next seasons First Division.Quote:
Originally Posted by Philosophizer