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A player that never really improved from the level he was at 8/9 years ago. Was it lack of effort or is it that he was unable(unlikely) to improve.
If premiership clubs had believed he was good enough back in the day they would have come in for him. Its not like they were short of the kind of money that he would have cost. Martinez must be disappointed with McGeady. I certainly would be if I signed a player and he has performed as McGeady has.
didn't wigan look to sign him when they were in the premier lge and Martinez was manager?Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
Birmingham were constantly linked with him also when they were in the PL.
In his day as Celtic Manager, Strachan had silky Nakamura, dribbly wingers Maloney and McGeady, front men big JVH, Zurawski / McDonald all at his disposal and still managed with negative tactics and team selections to make Celtic play almost universally despised, turgid football. What Delia wouldn't give to have just one, a McGeady, albeit in an unknown condition, at his disposal.
Considering the Celtic's board, self destructive cost cutting history, there would be no chance of McGeady going there if his salary was not subsided the way the 2 Keanes were.
Neither were in the squad tonight anyway, himself or Gibson. Coleman went off injured late on too when Everton had all their subs used, didn't look very serious though but hard to know. Besic was the best player on the pitch, Mac might be looking for a loan move too :p
"Ex Everton Irish" will soon be a more apt name for the thread, claim many on here.
Gibson starts against Dagenham & Redbridge. McGeady not in squad, hopefully that means a loan move is almost sorted?!
Possibly good news for Gibson too, if he plays today, he's cup tied, so reduces his availability for any potential moves. If Martinez is playing him today, maybe he's in his plans for the future?
Still unlikely to budge those ahead of him though and game time likely to be limited. Hopefully they'll get another good cup run though that he can be involved in if he stays.
Coleman & McCarthy back in training. Everton are hoping to have them available for the 2nd leg against Manchester City today week.
Coleman came on for Everton in their 2-1 defeat to Swansea. He missed two very good chances, one an absolute sitter actually with the last kick of the game. Besic went off injured very early so they could really do with McCarthy back for their semi final on Wednesday, Cleverley just doesn't cut it. McCarthy wasn't even in today's squad though.
Poor Seamie. Gutted for him. Two great chances on his return. Everton have to be one of the most frustrating teams to follow - thrown away so many wins this season. Poison at the back and, in fairness, I criticized Coleman a little a few weeks back - they were as bad defensively without him during that spell.
"As bad" is charitable. Swansea spent the whole game targeting Oviedo and Stones and it won them the game.
I think Jagielka and McCarthy are huge losses from a defensive point of view. Jagielka can be suspect at times but he's their organiser and leader. McCarthy adds a bit of everything to that midfield, organisation, positional sense, pace and aggression.
You must have taken some consolation in witnessing the perfect Darwin penalty being executed with such casual, understated aplomb.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
It was fantastic! He seems to have a great record, had scored his last five before that anyway according to the graphic on Sky Sports as he was lining it up.
Poor Seamie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF4DcL6XwEA
I saw it live. At least next time he's in that situation he ought to remember it and keep it down.
If he had kept it down it might have been blocked by Fabianski, but that'd have been a better outcome.
I liked Lukaku's reaction.
He was a 95th minute missed sitter waiting to happen.
I refuse to believe he missed a sitter until I see a post from Paul six months ago predicting he will miss a sitter
I used to be like you and needed to see "evidence" of Paul's premonitions. You'll learn not to doubt in future.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Sods law says if he had been defending a similar ball he would have put it in the back of the net. :)
Coleman and McCarthy both came off the bench last night. McCarthy could have been braver for De Bruyne's cross that set up the winner. He did a bit of a John O'Shea and turned his arse on it, making himself as small as possible. I'd happily take a smack of a ball in the face to have a cup final at Wembley to look forward to.
Edit- I just seen it again and it's even worse than I remember, he practically got out of the way of it. He also did that silly 'hands behind his back' thing, which was even more unnecessary than usual as he wasn't even in the penalty box.
Not very impressive really, you should really be trying to charge down the ball.
Mind you, that is less than half the story, what about £30 million pound defender John Stones?
Free header for Aguero, surely he can't let him get in front of him like that? He is not much use
standing behind him there, might as well not be on the pitch.
Indeed he is worth £50 million now apparently!!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...-defend.htmlHe
He has done McCarthy a favour actually as he is not even mentioned in the article.
Complimentary of Coleman though!!
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This was a horrible night for Everton's defenders, brutally exposed by one of the most feared strikers in world football when Sergio Aguero lost John Stones in the 76th minute. He is still looking for him.
The Everton defender, shuffled out to right back to accommodate captain Phil Jagielka and Ramiro Funes Mori, was caught napping when Aguero scored City's third with his head.
'They've got a problem with John Stones at right back,' claimed Sky analyst Jamie Redknapp. 'He's not a right back.
You've got Seamus Coleman who's a better right back than him and Stones has got to go and play centre back.' Aguero put this tie to bed and the countless replays will be a reminder that Stones, right back or centre back, must put his nut in where it hurts to keep the ball out of that net.Martinez responded by substituting him, sending for Coleman in a desperate attempt to take this tie into extra-time. It was never going to happen.
Aguero tends to lose a lot better and more experienced defenders than Stones. He's getting a hard time lately but that just goes with poor results. He's still only a kid, learning to swim at the deep end, build them up to knock them down is the English way.
Yeah I'm glad McCarthy is getting a bit of a free ride but it was disappointing to see from our point of view, not his usual style to be fair. This was much higher on the commitment scale from himself and Baines a short time later.
Well Obviously Man City paid big buck for Aguero for a reason one being his ability to lose defenders.
Actually you only just see it at the start of the clips where Aguero nips inside him, would need to
seem from a bit earlier though.
Maybe he could say in his defence he was expecting McCarty to block the cross!
I do think he was built up too much though I have not see too much too impress me although I don't particularly look out for him.
Pretty much all I can remember is errors!
But anyway it was a great cross and a great header and not too impressive defending on that occasion.
I think Stones is a big talent to be honest. It probably doesn't help him that he's playing for a manager who focusses on the other side of the game more, and that Jagielka has been injured so much. Very little continuity. Perhaps he should be used more sparingly anyway? Obviously the price tag is insane but that's not his fault/problem. It usually takes centre backs until their mid-20's at the earliest to really find their feet and establish themselves. Chris Smalling, for example, has been around a long time at this stage but is only now he's really starting to look the part.
Blackburn Shane Duffy would have got his head on that!
R Name CM KG Apps Mins Goals Assists Yel Red SpG PS% AerialsWon MotM Rating
1 Shane Duffy 24, D(C) 193 76 26 2327 1 1 8 - 1.9 61.8 7.7
5 7.46
John Stones 21, D(CR) 188 70 21 1890 - -
3
- 0.3 89.1 1.4 - 6.93
R Name Apps Mins Tackles Inter Fouls Offsides Clear Drb Blocks OwnG Rating
Shane Duffy Blackburn, 24, D(C) 26 2327 0.9 2.4 1.6 0.7 7 0.3 1 - 7.46
John Stones 21, D(CR) 188 70 21 1890 1.7 1.9 0.5 0.6 3.5 0.5 1 - 6.93
Those are his stats compared to Shane Duffy the highlighted figures for crosses and aerial dual won
show Duffy is twice as good and much be worth at last £100 million!
Our contingent will have a new manager this summer. It will be interesting to see who they appoint. Probably best to spare Martinez a hostile send off at Goodison on Sunday.
Three years left on his £4m a year contract... he'll be okay. :)
There goes McGeady's carefully-managed fitness regime :(
He won't be cold come winter, its true.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
No wonder he didn't seem too worried about getting the tin tacQuote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
When is this kind of re-imbursement(?) going to be there for the ordinary Joe/Josephine
Wonder what the outlook will be for the Irish lads?
Depends who they get in I guess.
Frank de Boer is about evens fav
Then Ronald Koeman at about 2-1
Martin O Neill 25-1 ish :)
Roy Keane 66-1 :cool:
Chris Hughton 66-1 :ball:
It will be interesting for McCarthy in particular I think. He's known nothing but Martinez since leaving Hamilton really at club level, bar a couple of weeks at Wigan. He's been a bit of a manager's pet under Martinez so might have to come out of his comfort zone a bit. Could be a good thing. A potential lifeline for Gibson, in particular, and maybe even McGeady too, doubtful though.
All papers saying Koeman top target this morning. A shame because (a) Long will continue to flourish under Koeman and (b) I want Koeman to take over at Arsenal!
Maybe Koeman will take Long with him! Lukaku might not be there much longer.
More importantly, any word on Coleman's injury ?
Martinez had indicated that Coleman might have a chance of being involved at the weekend, unlike himself, fitness test depending. Here-Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
Well let's face it the players, like Everton were going nowhere under Martinez so hopefully a chance for the better,
unless they will be going to different club!
I must say Martinez always seemed rather uninspiring in his TV interviews.