Don't you just love Fran Gavin's "following receipt of a number of expressions of interest"!
Tarmonbarry ... and who else?
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Don't you just love Fran Gavin's "following receipt of a number of expressions of interest"!
Tarmonbarry ... and who else?
I think Carlow are considering coming in but were not ready this year.
In fairness Fingal is the biggest populated part of Dublin with no club (anymore), If Sporting Fingal had stayed amateur and built a small football stadium in Fingal they could have been sustainable but no they spent money on wages and had no legacy. A 500 seater main stand and two little 250 seat stand behind each goal, one for vocal home fans and one for away fan's. Might only have been a average first division club but better than bust and might have had a good year every now and then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
Charlie, I can live with my words being twisted, it's practice in foot.ie, but come on, it's not been supportive of the new club. I do, in one sense, understand the tribalism, but we should be happy with clubs aspiring to join, we should be forcing our own clubs to do more to open up the league, and while we all criticise the FAI, it is our own clubs who voted again and again to allow the national association run our top senior leagues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
And I'm not having a go at you, I know that there are many on here who will head out to Stradbrook just to take a look for the sake of the game, and I just hope our meeja get on board with this and start giving our league some support.
Not fair on Fingal. They Sporting Fingal, they were doing good work in the community, they were developing younger age groups and in the process of getting a small ground together (in Lusk if I remember right), and they had no choice in the end. The council pulled the plug completely for political expediency and cowardice - even when the club had backers coming in and no debts.Quote:
Originally Posted by citybone
Fingal is not covered, but it's a spread out area - you could have a LOI club out in Blanch (lots of good players from there - Fabio for one), one in Malahide, but further north and you're running into Drogheda. Brings into focus a need for franchising.
What's not been supportive? Some people have questioned how wise it is (completely valid) but I'd wager a good chunk of people here will put their money where their mouths are and buy tickets. Clubs don't run on well-wishes and having smoke blown up their holes on message boards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spudulika
Cabinteely in for the long haul: http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/irish...medium=twitter
An a separate point- 7/20 clubs in the Greater Dublin area = 35%. For an area that has 39% of the population that is not over representation like many people seem to think.
Would of rathered a team from outside of Dublin myself, be hard for them to drum up any kind of fan base when you consider anyone from the area with any interest in loi football probably already support one of the Dublin clubs.
Its 39% of the population overall of which a tiny percentage is then shared among the 7 Dublin clubs in actual league attendance. The math in simplicity is of course correct but arguably a town like Sligo will get better crowds that the Dublin clubs while being about 0.4% of the national population. Having said that as another Dublin based club goes I feel Cabinteely have a better chance than UCD to build a fan base even though UCD are well established. The growth of League of Ireland attendance nationwide if done correctly and supported by the FAI would likely be more in a one club provincial town/city than in Dublin irrespective of population. Even those who rarely attend games have probably alligned themselves to Dublins more successful and still in existance traditional 4.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
But you well know Nesta, there's a few areas in Dublin that don't have direct bus routes to games. A huge stumbling block for some.
A moot point since the invention of the personal spaceship.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Aye but sure there are a few clubs that could be playing on the moon and get better crowdsQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
I use my personal transporterQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/401...tic-kirk-o.gif
If barstoolers had those, they still wouldn't get off the bloody things!
Commiserations to Cabinteely on the step down from the LSL to the basket case farce of the League of Ireland First Division :/
They weren't in the LSL.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluemovie
used to though didnt they?Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Think they left LSL 2 years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
Yes, they have an LFL team now, much lower standard but presumably a lot cheaper to run.
Sure that was all Blatter's plan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
The Moon would be the perfect place for Blatter :)Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
Cabinteely expect their first game to be a sell out and releasing limited tickets to Wexford
Nigel, I think Stradbrook where Cabinteely are playing only holds 500, Cabinteely have about 900 players in their schoolboy setup so if you get a quarter of them and their Da's to go that'd fill it.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Upside though is that there's a Bar in the Rugby club and a big window to watch the match out of
Set up a TV in the pub showing the match and it'd be a sell out. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by vinnie
Aaron Shanahan, a player many of you may know from his various journeys around the league, now first team manager at Parkvilla as well as goalkeeper for Ards, believes Parkvilla should aim for the League of Ireland within the next 10 years.
http://navanecho.com/shanahan-villa-...ue-of-ireland/
1,400 at last Fridays game. there was one end with no one, the seats were pretty empty and the far side from the cabinteely side was sparse enough. could probably hold 1800Quote:
Originally Posted by vinnie
The announced the capacity last week at just over 1,600 so not too far off
That's Aaron Shanahan of "sorry lads, I was ****" fame. Never forget.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBoss
I've been thinking over the last few days that a pure pyramid system is extremely unlikely to come to pass within 20 years. I think that a more realistic alternative would be to look to Brazil, where in Serie D, the top clubs in the State Championships not already in the National pyramid compete against each other in a Champions League style format. I think that something similar could work here, as clubs could continue to be big fish in their district leagues while competing against the best in the country. Obviously there would need to be changes to make it viable for amateur clubs to compete, such as each club playing only once, promotion to the LOI being optional and dependent on meeting the licencing criteria, and the group stage and early rounds being regionalised, possibly on a North-South basis. In detail, I propose the following:
FAI Trophy (now FAI Intermediate Cup)
Group stage-32 clubs in 8 groups of 4 4 groups in North and South pools., each club plays once, top 2 qualify for knockout stages and also for FAI Cup.
Round of 16- National pool,Group winners play at home
QF-Open draw, home team gets to nominate pitch other than their own, winners qualify for EA Sports Cup
SF-Open draw, neutral venue
F-held in Aviva Stadium, winner qualifies for LOI if interested, subject to meeting licencing criteria, FAI could subsidise entry fee for a number of years. Immunity from relegation for a set period also possible.
FAI Vase (now FAI Junior Cup)-Straight one-legged knockout
Round 1- 64 teams,Open draw, pooled in four groups
Round 2- 32 teams,Open draw, pooled in four groups
Round 3- 16 teams,Open draw, pooled in two groups
Round 4- 8 teams+ 8 third-placed teams from FAI Trophy,Round 3 winners get home advantage, pooled in two groups, winner qualify for FAI Cup
QF-Open draw, home team gets to nominate pitch other than their own
SF-Open draw, neutral venue
F-held in Aviva Stadium as curtain-raiser to FAI Trophy final
Qualification
Region FAI Trophy FAI Vase
Leinster Senior League 6 12
Munster Senior League 4 7
Ulster Senior League 1 2
Dublin/Meath Sunday 3 6
Dublin/Meath Saturday 3 6
Kildare / Wicklow / Kilkenny / Carlow / Wexford / Combined Counties 2 4
Galway 1 2
Cork Junior 2 5
Limerick 2 4
Tipperary & WWEC 2 4
Kerry/Clare/Desmond 2 3
Waterford 1 2
Mayo/Sligo/Roscommon 2 3
Ulster Junior 1 4
Each region gets the same national knockout round berths as it currently does, with roughly one-third allocated to the Trophy and roughly two-thirds allocated to the Vase. This ensures that both Intermediate and Junior clubs get to qualify for the Trophy and thus play for a chance to participate in the LOI.
I am of the opinion that this is probably the best realistic way forward for the amateur game which ensures that all regions are represented and will probably improve the standard of football in this country. This may also lead to more grassroots being unearthed by LOI clubs, as comparisons between Intermediate and Junior level will be much easier to make than currently. It is unlikely that an A Championship will be set up again in the current climate, but I think that this idea is a sustainable substitute for this.
I like it but you are still leaving some of League's out, West Cork League for example, although they could have pre qualifying with the Cork Junior league (aul?)
That's right, West Cork were included with the AUL, as was the B&SL. Essentially, the regional groups for qualifying for the national stages of the FAI cups will be the same for this system.
Do you want Legendz to spontaneously combust?Quote:
Originally Posted by BoyInGreen
I like the thinking and a good bit of work in mapping out how it could work. Id say that there was more thought put in to the above than the powers that be have put in to football structures for the last 10 years combined. You should mail this off to Fran Gavin even if its just to see if you get a reply!
From: Fran.Gavin@fai.ie
To: BoyInGreen@foot.ie
Jesus Christ, go out and get laid will you.
Regards,
Fran
From: Fran.Gavin@fai.ie
To: BoyInGreen@foot.ie
RE: I've a bone to pick with you Fran
Jesus Christ, go out and get laid will you.
Regards,
Fran
Unfortunately, my once favoured pyramid is unlikely to be built! :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
The lack of a national vibrancy about the league is disappointing. Obviously it's not something those within LoI communities will be too bothered about. The most disappointing this is that the FAI don't have any blueprints or ambitious plans to get teams involved from more areas. I've heard of some Premier clubs wanting some form of Reserve League. It's something aspiring clubs could get involved with as well. It's a pity those Premier clubs aren't having their calls for such a league answered.