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01/01/2010, 10:27 PM
Hairy Bowsie

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Originally Posted by ARooney28

Our budget has been reduced this season. What part of that do people find hard to believe?

This part

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Originally Posted by ARooney28

Our budget has been reduced this season.
01/01/2010, 10:39 PM
MMVIII

Ok mate, you keep believing your right.

Our budget has been reduced this season. That is a fact. But hey, you know it all!
01/01/2010, 10:47 PM
DmanDmythDledge

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Originally Posted by Dillonman

Where are Sligo getting all this money from? Chris Turner doesnt come cheap, neither do those two lads from Cork!

Neither do Owen Morrison, Cretaro or Kendrick who have left. Can't believe that people just can't look at the players out before going on about budget increase etc, etc.
02/01/2010, 6:23 AM
SMorgan

Oh I fully accept that Sligo will be working off a smaller budget than last season. It has to. In fact I'd say that the club is regreting signing Turner using the European money that isn't coming. As for Turner turning down more money from Sham Rovers to play with Sly Rovers, give us a break!!
02/01/2010, 10:31 AM
Hairy Bowsie

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Originally Posted by ARooney28

Ok mate, you keep believing your right.

Our budget has been reduced this season. That is a fact. But hey, you know it all!

No i don't know it all but i have the experience of being the fan of a club who was told "we're working off a reduced budget next season". Now that alone doesn't mean you're wrong and i'm right but i will say don't believe everything you're told by your club.

Now lets say you are right and you are working off a reduce budget, it still doesn't mean you are living within your means.

Personally, looking at the Sligo situation, i don't believe you've reduced your budget but thats just my opinion on it. We'll know who was right come the end of the season but you don't have to get so defensive about it :)
02/01/2010, 10:42 AM
Dillonman

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Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

Neither do Owen Morrison, Cretaro or Kendrick who have left. Can't believe that people just can't look at the players out before going on about budget increase etc, etc.

Turner was announced as "signed" well before those players where announced as "released".
02/01/2010, 10:55 AM
wexfordned

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Originally Posted by ARooney28

Turner came here for a significantly less amount than what Shams were supposedly offering.

Our budget has been reduced this season. What part of that do people find hard to believe?

It's simple really.

Every player in the league would rather play for Shamrocks than anybody else.

Any player who chooses to sign for another team instead of Shamrock must be signing for them because he was offered more money. There is no other explanation for turning down Shamrock that could possibly make sense:confused:
02/01/2010, 11:07 AM
De Town

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Originally Posted by Dillonman

Turner was announced as "signed" well before those players where announced as "released".

Yeah the club obviously knew those players being released weren't going to be offered new contracts.
02/01/2010, 11:09 AM
Dillonman

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Originally Posted by De Town

Yeah the club obviously knew those players being released weren't going to be offered new contracts.

Yeah but what Im getting at is if Boco is their highest earner and they are cutting back budget wise...(you get my drift)

On another note I received two emails last night saying Robbie Farrell was offered a contract with us.
02/01/2010, 12:30 PM
Dillonman

Have Fingal released anyone or are they keeping everyone who won promotion?
02/01/2010, 12:43 PM
brendy_�ire

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Originally Posted by wexfordned

Any player who chooses to sign for another team instead of Shamrock must be signing for them because he was offered more money.

There's also a possibility the player wouldn't want to move to Dublin, or that they mightn't get a game there. Or maybe they just don't like Shams?
02/01/2010, 12:46 PM
Dillonman

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Originally Posted by brendy_�ire

There's also a possibility the player wouldn't want to move to Dublin, or that they mightn't get a game there. Or maybe they just don't like Shams?

Might not like the set up either.
02/01/2010, 12:54 PM
DmanDmythDledge

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Originally Posted by Hairy Bowsie

Personally, looking at the Sligo situation, i don't believe you've reduced your budget but thats just my opinion on it. We'll know who was right come the end of the season but you don't have to get so defensive about it :)

Why do you think that?

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Originally Posted by Dillonman

Yeah but what Im getting at is if Boco is their highest earner and they are cutting back budget wise...(you get my drift)

That makes absolutely no sense at all.
02/01/2010, 12:59 PM
Dillonman

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Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

Why do you think that?

That makes absolutely no sense at all.

It doesnt matter. Point is, if true, if they're cutting back then how can they offer Turner a 2 year deal well before xmas.
02/01/2010, 1:15 PM
DmanDmythDledge

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Originally Posted by Dillonman

It doesnt matter. Point is, if true, if they're cutting back then how can they offer Turner a 2 year deal well before xmas.

Because they have released players. It's simple, I can't see how there is any confusion.
02/01/2010, 1:26 PM
Acornvilla

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Originally Posted by Dillonman

It doesnt matter. Point is, if true, if they're cutting back then how can they offer Turner a 2 year deal well before xmas.

you do know that a 2 year contract isnt more expensive than a 1 year? they still pay him the sae wages every week? if they are not stupid with money and can pay wages it is a good deal for sligo. their guranteing themselvel 2 years of his services or a season and a transfer fee? its a god buisness and footballing decision?
02/01/2010, 1:29 PM
Boo_Boy

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Originally Posted by Dillonman

It doesnt matter. Point is, if true, if they're cutting back then how can they offer Turner a 2 year deal well before xmas.

Sweet Jesus, let me break it down. I'll use even and lower numbers to make it easier on you.

Lets say we have a budget of 10,000 per week, we release:
Owen Morrison. -500/pw
Martin Camano. -500/pw
Joe Kendrick. -500/pw
Ger Rafter. - 500/pw
Rob Turner. -500/pw

So 2,500 is taken from the budget, now we have used 7,500 of our 10,000 budget. We sign Turner for 500/pw and now we have used 8,000 of our budget.

So now, read it slow, read it twice.
02/01/2010, 1:47 PM
Acornvilla

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Originally Posted by Boo_Boy

Sweet Jesus, let me break it down. I'll use even and lower numbers to make it easier on you.

Lets say we have a budget of 10,000 per week, we release:
Owen Morrison. -500/pw
Martin Camano. -500/pw
Joe Kendrick. -500/pw
Ger Rafter. - 500/pw
Rob Turner. -500/pw

So 2,500 is taken from the budget, now we have used 7,500 of our 10,000 budget. We sign Turner for 500/pw and now we have used 8,000 of our budget.

So now, read it slow, read it twice.

i gurantee some eejit will reply saying ''but their not on 500 a week blah blah blah..'' and miss the point entirely..
02/01/2010, 2:24 PM
forza rovers

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Originally Posted by Dillonman

It doesnt matter. Point is, if true, if they're cutting back then how can they offer Turner a 2 year deal well before xmas.

worry about sorting your own club out instead of ours.we are reducing our budget(if you can get that into your head),boco is all but gone, we sign 3 players and let at least 5 go.our budget was 14,000 last season and now its down around 8,000 a week
02/01/2010, 2:29 PM
weecountyman

I know this probably sounds a bit mad, but in terms of budget, how much is made through gate, merchandise and sponsorships (and prizemoney) and how much is shovelled into the club by supporters and well-meaning businesspeople? This isn't just in relation to Sligo, it comes from a conversation I had many moons ago in Benny Bradys regarding such matters. At the time the co-op were trying to put Dundalk right and one of the former head people (a certain travel agent) told me in no uncertain terms that annually he put in around �100,000 punts to keep things afloat, and this was off the books or at best "loans".
02/01/2010, 2:51 PM
kdjaC

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Originally Posted by wexfordned

It's simple really.

Every player in the league would rather play for Shamrocks than anybody else.

Any player who chooses to sign for another team instead of Shamrock must be signing for them because he was offered more money. There is no other explanation for turning down Shamrock that could possibly make sense:confused:

Plenty of players wouldnt sign for Pats 2 years ago as they heard JMC was a bit of a **** , no way in hell anyone was offering more than us at that time.

Shamrocks new left back was one, Heary was another, Gamble another, Zayed etc:
02/01/2010, 3:01 PM
Dillonman

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Originally Posted by forza rovers

worry about sorting your own club out instead of ours.we are reducing our budget(if you can get that into your head),boco is all but gone, we sign 3 players and let at least 5 go.our budget was 14,000 last season and now its down around 8,000 a week

Its a bloody public forum...am I not allowed ask a simple bloody question as to where Sligo are getting money from? Did I just imagine money problems at Sligo not so long ago?????????????
02/01/2010, 3:21 PM
forza rovers

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Originally Posted by Dillonman

Its a bloody public forum...am I not allowed ask a simple bloody question as to where Sligo are getting money from? Did I just imagine money problems at Sligo not so long ago?????????????

you picked that one up quick now you could get that we are reducing our budget into your head,as you cant see to grasp when 5 people tell you that we are reducing our budget.did ye not sign players and make them take a wage cut s couple of weeks later??????????????????????
02/01/2010, 3:25 PM
pineapple stu

Will the two of ye calm down, ffs?
02/01/2010, 3:39 PM
Dillonman

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Originally Posted by forza rovers

you picked that one up quick now you could get that we are reducing our budget into your head,as you cant see to grasp when 5 people tell you that we are reducing our budget.did ye not sign players and make them take a wage cut s couple of weeks later??????????????????????

Yes we did but thats just the board we have...we also signed Sean Connor as manager and had 19 reds last season under him as well as one for him...your point? I asked a simple question.
02/01/2010, 3:42 PM
Boo_Boy

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Originally Posted by Dillonman

Yes we did but thats just the board we have...we also signed Sean Connor as manager and had 19 reds last season under him as well as one for him...your point? I asked a simple question.

...and you were given a simplified answer.
02/01/2010, 3:56 PM
Doomofman

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Originally Posted by SligoBrewer

Cork and Galway rumoured to be relegated according to Boards.

Now is it true, probably not.

Was rumoured on here yesterday... That's probably where the boards people got it from
02/01/2010, 8:29 PM
oriel

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Originally Posted by SligoBrewer

Cork and Galway rumoured to be relegated according to Boards.

Now is it true, probably not.

Why - what have Galway done to be relegated ?

Then again, it could be argued they were never properly promoted in the first place :D
02/01/2010, 8:56 PM
brianw82

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Originally Posted by Dillonman

Its a bloody public forum...am I not allowed ask a simple bloody question as to where Sligo are getting money from? Did I just imagine money problems at Sligo not so long ago?????????????

I would hazard a guess that our board were a bit too confident of winning the cup, and 'spent' the prizemoney on Turner's contract, along with the knowledge that the budget would be reduced as well.
02/01/2010, 9:15 PM
oriel

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Originally Posted by brianw82

I would hazard a guess that our board were a bit too confident of winning the cup, and 'spent' the prizemoney on Turner's contract, along with the knowledge that the budget would be reduced as well.

That was always my guess, that and the euro run, your board obviously never though the 'impossible' would happen that you would lose to Fingal#

Even if Turner wants to move to smaller club, if he got a better deal, so be it, and no hard feelings, Sligo - always a decent club in my view, great fans, seems to be well run. good luck next year.

# ps how could you possibly lose to them ?.............2009 fai cup winners will be a totally useless stat when they are not around in years to come.
02/01/2010, 9:20 PM
sligofan4ever

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Originally Posted by oriel

That was always my guess, that and the euro run, your board obviously never though the 'impossible' would happen that you would lose to Fingal#

Even if Turner wants to move to smaller club, if he got a better deal, so be it, and no hard feelings, Sligo - always a decent club in my view, great fans, seems to be well run. good luck next year.

# ps how could you possibly lose to them ?.............2009 fai cup winners will be a totally useless stat when they are not around in years to come.

Simple:

1) No Conor O' Grady meant no inspiration or battle in the midfield
2) We didn't look interested for much of the game, nor did the players bar Peers,Keane,Kelly,Blinkhorn,Doyle,Boco and Meenan.
3) Fingal took advantage of that, *with the help of a penalty that should never have been

* I hope this dosen't spark another debate over wheter it was or not :o
02/01/2010, 10:39 PM
wexfordned

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Originally Posted by wexfordned

It's simple really.

Every player in the league would rather play for Shamrocks than anybody else.

Any player who chooses to sign for another team instead of Shamrock must be signing for them because he was offered more money. There is no other explanation for turning down Shamrock that could possibly make sense:confused:

I posted this thinking people would have have their sarcasm indicator turned on. Well done Sligoman & Reitoir. JUST PROOVES THE LEVELS OF IDIOCY ON THIS WEBSITE.

IT ALSO CONFIRMS HOW MANY IDIOTS POST ON THIS MESSAGEBOARD & LOKK FOR ANY REASON TO HAVE A GO AT BOHEMIAN FC.

FINALLY THIS THREAD WAS CREATED BY A MODERATOR & WHEN SAID MODERATOR STARTS MAKING UP COURT CASES JUST TO TRY & TAKE THE MORAL HIGH GROUND & POINT THE FINGER WHAT CAN YOU DO.

If Bohs fans who post on this MB complained about said moderator they would recieve a ban as they are not UCD/Rovers fans.
02/01/2010, 10:44 PM
micls

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Originally Posted by wexfordned

I posted this thinking people would have have their sarcasm indicator turned on. Well done Sligoman & Reitoir. JUST PROOVES THE LEVELS OF IDIOCY ON THIS WEBSITE.

Get over yourself ffs.

I'm sure plenty of people got it but didn't think it was worth thanking of replying too, as I did.

Make sure to deflate that ego of yours before walking through any tight spaces
02/01/2010, 11:02 PM
dublinred

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Originally Posted by Dillonman

Its a bloody public forum...am I not allowed ask a simple bloody question as to where Sligo are getting money from? Did I just imagine money problems at Sligo not so long ago?????????????

We had money problems around the 18k week budget level , we had relegation problems on a FAI enforced 10k a week budget , then got to a cup final and had title winning form on 12k a week so expect we should be operating around that level . Bulk of income comes via gate receipts which are fairly stable even when we were doing crap for the first half of last season . As mentioned by someone else a few big hitters have left leaving more in the wages pot , heard a rumour that we are getting another former player back for a lot less than he was on during his previous stint.
02/01/2010, 11:11 PM
Hairy Bowsie

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Originally Posted by wexfordned

I posted this thinking people would have have their sarcasm indicator turned on. Well done Sligoman & Reitoir. JUST PROOVES THE LEVELS OF IDIOCY ON THIS WEBSITE.

IT ALSO CONFIRMS HOW MANY IDIOTS POST ON THIS MESSAGEBOARD & LOKK FOR ANY REASON TO HAVE A GO AT BOHEMIAN FC.

FINALLY THIS THREAD WAS CREATED BY A MODERATOR & WHEN SAID MODERATOR STARTS MAKING UP COURT CASES JUST TO TRY & TAKE THE MORAL HIGH GROUND & POINT THE FINGER WHAT CAN YOU DO.

If Bohs fans who post on this MB complained about said moderator they would recieve a ban as they are not UCD/Rovers fans.

Aww did no one laugh at your joke? You've probably been checking all day to see how many "thanks" it got.

The reason people didn't laugh was because it wasn't funny. As well as sarcasm being the lowest form of wit, it's also the easist and you still couldn't do it well.

Also i made the same point about 20 minutes before you but it was deleted just after you posted because it was quoting "an unsubstantiated rumour" so you weren't even original.
02/01/2010, 11:21 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by wexfordned

FINALLY THIS THREAD WAS CREATED BY A MODERATOR

Nope, this thread was started by Dillonman.

I'll now use that one wrong, minor, fact to disprove anything you post in the future.
02/01/2010, 11:28 PM
sheao

I read in Saturdays Daily Mail that Staunton's Darlington have 2 esablished LOI players currently without a club on trial.
02/01/2010, 11:33 PM
sligoman

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Originally Posted by sheao

I read in Saturdays Daily Mail that Staunton's Darlington have 2 esablished LOI players currently without a club on trial.

DARLINGTON have targetted two experienced players from Irish football, and the duo could join the club next month.

They have been playing in the League of Ireland, and will be available when the transfer window opens.

Darlington manager Steve Staunton said: �One of them is a striker and the other a central midfielder. And we are considering others as well. We need players who can hit the ground running.�

http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/north-e...4229-25413635/

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Originally Posted by gazettelive

Staunton is a former Republic of Ireland manager and player, and has in-depth knowledge of the Irish game

:D:D
02/01/2010, 11:34 PM
Lamper.sffc

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Originally Posted by Dillonman

Have Fingal released anyone or are they keeping everyone who won promotion?

Robbie Doyle (shels bound hopefully:D)
Fiachra McArdle
Chris Konopka (waterford)
Philip Byrne

I think there may be one or two more who will not be with us next season.
03/01/2010, 12:59 AM
MMVIII

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Originally Posted by Hairy Bowsie

No i don't know it all but i have the experience of being the fan of a club who was told "we're working off a reduced budget next season". Now that alone doesn't mean you're wrong and i'm right but i will say don't believe everything you're told by your club.

Now lets say you are right and you are working off a reduce budget, it still doesn't mean you are living within your means.

Personally, looking at the Sligo situation, i don't believe you've reduced your budget but thats just my opinion on it. We'll know who was right come the end of the season but you don't have to get so defensive about it :)

@forza rovers - Our budget was not 14k last year. It was a lot lower than that.

Anyways, Hairy Bowsie, I can understand where you are coming to a degree.

You can believe what you want, or think what you want, but what reasoning do you have behind this? If it all goes belly up mid way through the season I'll hold my hand's up to being wrong, but I genuinely don't think it will. We have a very capable board, with some extremley capable members on that board, which in the past, was not the case.

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