Mayo Super League 2009

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01/09/2009, 3:44 PM
theboy

Here are the 2 tables as they stand now:

League table for Elverys Sports Super League
Team P W L D + - +/- Pts
Ballina Town 11 9 2 0 29 10 19 27
Westport United 12 9 3 0 33 17 16 27
Iorras Aontaithe 11 7 3 1 24 13 11 22
Manulla 12 5 5 2 24 28 -4 17
Snugboro United 10 5 4 1 23 17 6 16
Fahy Rovers 11 5 5 1 20 21 -1 16
Castlebar Celtic 12 3 5 4 19 29 -10 13
Ballyheane 11 3 5 3 13 17 -4 12
Straide & Foxford 12 2 7 3 14 27 -13 9
Kilmore 12 1 10 1 9 29 -20 4

League table for Welcome Inn Hotel Premier Division
Team P W L D + - +/- Pts
Swinford 14 10 2 2 39 20 19 32
Westport United B 13 9 2 2 38 18 20 29
Bangor Hibs 14 8 5 1 28 28 0 25
Iorras Aontaithe B 13 7 4 2 32 24 8 23
Partry Athletic 21
Crossmolina 17
Ballinrobe Town 13
Claremorris 12
Manulla B 10
Castlebar Celtic B 7

if it was to finish as is then 1 up and 1 down, but if something was to happen that westport b and erris b finish in the top 2 then no one goes up and will see what happens with the super league becoming an 8 team league, with S&F and Kilmore coming down.

but i'd say swinford & westport b will finish in the top 2.
01/09/2009, 3:51 PM
rava

If Swinford are promoted three teams would have to be relegated. So little thought was put into this its scarey.
01/09/2009, 8:42 PM
pinero

if swinford go up only one will be relegated,we think the idea about the problem with, if two b teams finish in top two of premier is that the league can decide that it might be better to relegate two from super league if bottom two have not done enough to jusitify place in super league.
01/09/2009, 9:35 PM
swinfordfc

As it stands - Swinford would replaced Kilmore and the super league will be a 10 team division next year - end of
01/09/2009, 10:06 PM
slab11

well we will see who finishes bottom! If we got any justice from refs we would have a better chance!:mad:
02/09/2009, 2:30 AM
FahyForever

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinero

if swinford go up only one will be relegated,we think the idea about the problem with, if two b teams finish in top two of premier is that the league can decide that it might be better to relegate two from super league if bottom two have not done enough to jusitify place in super league.

Your missing the point; he's saying if Swinford go up alone three PREMIER division teams will be relegated. And he's right; it's a total an utter **** up by the mayo League. Also, the idea that they can decide whether to relegate Super league teams on the basis of if they 'have done enough to justify their place in the league' is so arrogant it's beyond belief. There could be a huge stink over this, and deservedly so.
02/09/2009, 8:35 AM
murphs jewels

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Originally Posted by FahyForever

Your missing the point; he's saying if Swinford go up alone three PREMIER division teams will be relegated. And he's right; it's a total an utter **** up by the mayo League. Also, the idea that they can decide whether to relegate Super league teams on the basis of if they 'have done enough to justify their place in the league' is so arrogant it's beyond belief. There could be a huge stink over this, and deservedly so.

Dont think your right there FF. Swinford put forward the proposal as issued my the MAFL. If two B sides finish top of the premier then no promotion and no relegation from the SL, Unless the MAFL decide to make the SL an 8 team league and automatically relegate the bottom 2. This would be the worst senario as it would mean a reshuffle of all the divisions.
It has not been thought through very well as it would lead to 12 teams in the premier (relegation of more than 2 teams from the premier has never been mentioned).
If one of the top 2 in the Premier is not a b side ie. Swinford, then its 1 up and 1 down and continue on the next season.
The only mention of making the SL an 8 team division was if the top 2 in the premier were b sides and then the MAFL would make a decision on the best way forward.
But as I have said on numerous ocassions this will never be sorted out unless we get a seperate division for reserve sides as happens all across the world. It is a complete mess and no one really understands what is happening at this late stage of the season. This situation is always going to be a bone of contention and it will be the same question every year and a constant headache in relation to promotion and relegation of teams from the premier to the SL when the B teams are involved.
It should be a smoothe transition from one tier to another without all the red tape and BS and no get out of jail free cards for teams finishing 2nd bottom of our top division.
02/09/2009, 8:38 AM
rava

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinero

if swinford go up only one will be relegated,we think the idea about the problem with, if two b teams finish in top two of premier is that the league can decide that it might be better to relegate two from super league if bottom two have not done enough to jusitify place in super league.

Its ok we have no problem understanding the concept of the idea. Its the idea itself that has not been thought through. How can teams be promoted or more importantly relegated when a league has finished. They might get more applications to the Connaught senior league then they thought:D
02/09/2009, 11:32 AM
theboy

on a change of topic, any news on the oscar traynor team this year? who's the manager and when is it starting?
02/09/2009, 12:14 PM
FahyForever

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Originally Posted by theboy

on a change of topic, any news on the oscar traynor team this year? who's the manager and when is it starting?

Judging by the level of foresight being applied by the mayo league so far, eleven guys will get text messages at 7 in the morning some Sunday saying 'You have been selected for the Oscar Traynor team. Please be in Donegal for 2 o clock today and await further instructions'...

I don't know. Usually it's September right? No idea who the manager is, hopefully it won't be someone currently connected with a Mayo League team so we can avoid the spectacle of overtly biased choices, as has happened in the past.
02/09/2009, 5:21 PM
1924

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Originally Posted by FahyForever

Judging by the level of foresight being applied by the mayo league so far, eleven guys will get text messages at 7 in the morning some Sunday saying 'You have been selected for the Oscar Traynor team. Please be in Donegal for 2 o clock today and await further instructions'...

I don't know. Usually it's September right? No idea who the manager is, hopefully it won't be someone currently connected with a Mayo League team so we can avoid the spectacle of overtly biased choices, as has happened in the past.

Just a remark or two on your last paragraph!!! 1.What do you mean manager not connected with another mayo league club.That surely has to be the only way they would know the players

2.When did the bias happen in the past and if you explain that tell us all the managers name?
02/09/2009, 7:25 PM
slab11

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Originally Posted by murphs jewels

But as I have said on numerous ocassions this will never be sorted out unless we get a seperate division for reserve sides as happens all across the world. It is a complete mess and no one really understands what is happening at this late stage of the season. This situation is always going to be a bone of contention and it will be the same question every year and a constant headache in relation to promotion and relegation of teams from the premier to the SL when the B teams are involved.
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Your right there should be a seperate division for B teams and it would solve a lot of the BS thats goin on in the mayo leagues!
02/09/2009, 9:41 PM
pinero

If Swinford go up only one can be relegated can not relegate two because that would leave super league uneven ,8 team super league is only an option if two b teams go up.
03/09/2009, 3:41 PM
rava

I hear Ballyheane have been deducted points and fined for game that was called off against Erris for swine flu. :confused: Anyone from Ballyheane got any details.
03/09/2009, 4:15 PM
Kilmore Fan

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Originally Posted by rava

I hear Ballyheane have been deducted points and fined for game that was called off against Erris for swine flu. :confused: Anyone from Ballyheane got any details.

I heard a rumour that they might be deducted points but haven't heard confirmation? Again I heard the same reason - swine flu:rolleyes:
03/09/2009, 4:38 PM
FahyForever

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Originally Posted by 1924

Just a remark or two on your last paragraph!!! 1.What do you mean manager not connected with another mayo league club.That surely has to be the only way they would know the players

2.When did the bias happen in the past and if you explain that tell us all the managers name?

I meant I'd prefer if it was not a current manager of a Mayo league team. there are plenty of people who either know, or could get to know the majority of the players. See my post from a few years ago below to get my answer to your second question.

Ciaran Kelly (Castlebar Celtic)
Martin McGreal (Westport Utd.)
Niall Gallagher (Ballyglass)
Joe Lawless (Westport Utd)
Seamus Higgins (Westport Utd.)
Declan Flynn (Snugboro)
Peter Burke (Ballyheane)
Pierce Loftus (Crossmolina)
Eoghan McHale (Westport Utd.)
Tommy Walsh (Manulla)
Andy Neary Castlebar Celtic)
James Gillespie (Glenhest Rovers)
Mark McGreal (Manulla)
Dave Cameron (Westport Utd.)
David Roughneen (Snugboro)
Johan Collins (Snugboro)
Philip Devers (Ballina Town)
Malachy Byrne (Manulla)
Gordon Carter (Swinford)
Charlie O’Donnell (Mulranny)
Eugene Gorman (Ballina Town)
Tom Molloy (Mulranny)
Sean McHale (Castlebar Celtic)
Derek Glynn (Claremorris)
Vinny O’Malley (Westport Utd.)
Dessie O’Malley (Westport Utd.)
Mick Duffy (Ballina Town)
Gary Price (Castlebar Celtic)
Ronan O’Boyle (Castlebar Celtic)

I think that Mick Wallace has taken his first steps into managing the Oscar Traynor team by picking his inaugural squad and in doing so lost credibility already. I understand Swift's point about the need to explore the possibilities in the lower leagues, but when you consider the fact that this squad has only one more Castlebar Celtic player than it does Mulranny players, you realise it's neither coincidental nor sensible. There are only three players from the Premier Divison on the squad, so why he chooses two players from Mulranny, who finished fourth from bottom of the First Division, as the only representatives from that league, is a bit of an anomaly.

Until you remember that he played in goal for them a few seasons ago.

Charlie O Donnell is a skillful midfielder with a great touch but has been winding down this past few seasons. He left Glenhest to take his football nice and handy for Mulranny and it would really surprise me if he has any notion of playing football at such a competitive level again. Tom Molloy is an average striker in the first division and failed to get into the top FIFTEEN scorers when they played in the premier division last season.
Wallace's last club, Westport United, have five representatives in the squad, which is easier to justify. However, Seamus Higgins has played most of this season as a B team player and seems unlikely to break into their first team, let alone the county team. Last week against Castlebar Celtic he only made the bench, despite them being without Lovejoy (Who is a huge loss to the Oscar Traynor team) and Joe Lawless in defence. (Joe was playing in midfield). Instead the manager choose to play himself, wisely as it turned out as he scored twice. I dont think he's a bad player, just that there are other centre-halves of a higher calibre currently playing in the league. Erris United must be wondering how they managed to come second in the super league without a single player that's up to Mulranny standard.
Glad to see Derek Glynn getting a chance from the start of the season this year, hopefully his pace and finishing will see him making the most of his call up.
03/09/2009, 4:54 PM
1924

Quote:

Originally Posted by FahyForever

I meant I'd prefer if it was not a current manager of a Mayo league team. there are plenty of people who either know, or could get to know the majority of the players. See my post from a few years ago below to get my answer to your second question.

Ciaran Kelly (Castlebar Celtic)
Martin McGreal (Westport Utd.)
Niall Gallagher (Ballyglass)
Joe Lawless (Westport Utd)
Seamus Higgins (Westport Utd.)
Declan Flynn (Snugboro)
Peter Burke (Ballyheane)
Pierce Loftus (Crossmolina)
Eoghan McHale (Westport Utd.)
Tommy Walsh (Manulla)
Andy Neary Castlebar Celtic)
James Gillespie (Glenhest Rovers)
Mark McGreal (Manulla)
Dave Cameron (Westport Utd.)
David Roughneen (Snugboro)
Johan Collins (Snugboro)
Philip Devers (Ballina Town)
Malachy Byrne (Manulla)
Gordon Carter (Swinford)
Charlie O�Donnell (Mulranny)
Eugene Gorman (Ballina Town)
Tom Molloy (Mulranny)
Sean McHale (Castlebar Celtic)
Derek Glynn (Claremorris)
Vinny O�Malley (Westport Utd.)
Dessie O�Malley (Westport Utd.)
Mick Duffy (Ballina Town)
Gary Price (Castlebar Celtic)
Ronan O�Boyle (Castlebar Celtic)

I think that Mick Wallace has taken his first steps into managing the Oscar Traynor team by picking his inaugural squad and in doing so lost credibility already. I understand Swift's point about the need to explore the possibilities in the lower leagues, but when you consider the fact that this squad has only one more Castlebar Celtic player than it does Mulranny players, you realise it's neither coincidental nor sensible. There are only three players from the Premier Divison on the squad, so why he chooses two players from Mulranny, who finished fourth from bottom of the First Division, as the only representatives from that league, is a bit of an anomaly.

Until you remember that he played in goal for them a few seasons ago.

Charlie O Donnell is a skillful midfielder with a great touch but has been winding down this past few seasons. He left Glenhest to take his football nice and handy for Mulranny and it would really surprise me if he has any notion of playing football at such a competitive level again. Tom Molloy is an average striker in the first division and failed to get into the top FIFTEEN scorers when they played in the premier division last season.
Wallace's last club, Westport United, have five representatives in the squad, which is easier to justify. However, Seamus Higgins has played most of this season as a B team player and seems unlikely to break into their first team, let alone the county team. Last week against Castlebar Celtic he only made the bench, despite them being without Lovejoy (Who is a huge loss to the Oscar Traynor team) and Joe Lawless in defence. (Joe was playing in midfield). Instead the manager choose to play himself, wisely as it turned out as he scored twice. I dont think he's a bad player, just that there are other centre-halves of a higher calibre currently playing in the league. Erris United must be wondering how they managed to come second in the super league without a single player that's up to Mulranny standard.
Glad to see Derek Glynn getting a chance from the start of the season this year, hopefully his pace and finishing will see him making the most of his call up.

In Relation to the manager,its going to be hard to source anybody from outside the league,that is unless he is getting well looked after and also If Declan Kilkelly is not doing it this year.I just believe that it is better to have somebody that is currently involved in a club in the mayo league as they would/should know all the players.

The other point...Lets just say I will agree with you in relation to that manager
03/09/2009, 5:51 PM
pinero

rubbish! about ballyheane losing pts
03/09/2009, 10:05 PM
slab11

Quote:

Originally Posted by rava

I hear Ballyheane have been deducted points and fined for game that was called off against Erris for swine flu. :confused: Anyone from Ballyheane got any details.

Well erris have been given the points for that game as far as i know.
About them losing points... I think its up to erris if they want to send in a complaint about it!
Anyone hear about Kilmore bein given any points no???:D
04/09/2009, 8:08 AM
GoodFootball

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinero

rubbish! about ballyheane losing pts

Not losing any points but they wont be getting any from Erris, that fixture has been given as a walkover...pressure will be on for Ballyheane now who will be mucking it out for survival!
04/09/2009, 8:47 AM
rava

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Originally Posted by GoodFootball

Not losing any points but they wont be getting any from Erris, that fixture has been given as a walkover...pressure will be on for Ballyheane now who will be mucking it out for survival!

But they cant be relegated so I doubt they care to much. The Mayo league just dont seem to get tired of kicking the heane in the balls. Also a honourable mention must be given to their treatment of Moyvilla since they won their appeal a couple of seasons ago, its been fine after fine ever since.
04/09/2009, 12:36 PM
GoodFootball

Quote:

Originally Posted by rava

But they cant be relegated so I doubt they care to much. The Mayo league just dont seem to get tired of kicking the heane in the balls. Also a honourable mention must be given to their treatment of Moyvilla since they won their appeal a couple of seasons ago, its been fine after fine ever since.

Whats the point in playing at all if thats the attitude?

There are some nice footballers playing for Ballyheane but you have to question whether they give a fcuk about the team or not. When we played them earlier in the year, once we went up they just dropped the heads. Not enough locals on the team I think maybe the problem there?
04/09/2009, 1:41 PM
rava

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoodFootball

Whats the point in playing at all if thats the attitude?

There are some nice footballers playing for Ballyheane but you have to question whether they give a fcuk about the team or not. When we played them earlier in the year, once we went up they just dropped the heads. Not enough locals on the team I think maybe the problem there?

Yeah they definitley dont have the same spirit as the Ballyheane teams of old. Pity really because they really knew how to shake things up back in their prime.
04/09/2009, 4:52 PM
slab11

Quote:

Originally Posted by rava

But they cant be relegated so I doubt they care to much. The Mayo league just dont seem to get tired of kicking the heane in the balls. Also a honourable mention must be given to their treatment of Moyvilla since they won their appeal a couple of seasons ago, its been fine after fine ever since.

Why cant ballyheane be relegated??
U would wanna see how unfairly Kilmore have been treated this year ban after ban, fine after fine!!!:mad:
Its a joke!!!
05/09/2009, 2:58 PM
rava

Quote:

Originally Posted by slab11

Why cant ballyheane be relegated??
U would wanna see how unfairly Kilmore have been treated this year ban after ban, fine after fine!!!:mad:
Its a joke!!!

Looks like at the moment that only 1 team (Swinford) will be promoted. So only one team will be relegated and Im afraid that looks likly to be yourselves.
05/09/2009, 8:24 PM
slab11

Quote:

Originally Posted by rava

Looks like at the moment that only 1 team (Swinford) will be promoted. So only one team will be relegated and Im afraid that looks likly to be yourselves.

Sure ye all had us put down before we started at all so im not surprised at what your sayin but we will see...!
06/09/2009, 4:01 PM
slab11

Great performance today from Kilmore!
Shows we can compete with anyone when there isnt 12 men against us!
Should have won by 3 or 4 but we will take the 1-0 win:)
06/09/2009, 4:32 PM
Kilmore Fan

We beat Snugboro 1-0 today. Great game, even better result:D Both teams had lots of chances in rotten weather conditions but for once the result went our way. Great facilities there at Snugboro, my compliments to all there.
06/09/2009, 6:38 PM
Footy Mad

Ballina Town 1 v 1 Ballyheane
Manulla 1 v 0 Castlebar Celtic
Snugboro Utd. 0 v 1 Kilmore
Straide & Foxford Utd. 2 v 2 Iorras Aontaithe
Westport Utd. 4 v 3 Fahy Rovers

Well done Kilmore, big game for ye in next round of games away to Ballyheane.
Ballina didn't manage to put pressure on Westport after last week's great result
07/09/2009, 8:44 AM
rava

Quote:

Originally Posted by rava

Yeah they definitley dont have the same spirit as the Ballyheane teams of old. Pity really because they really knew how to shake things up back in their prime.

I stand corrected...... again. :o
07/09/2009, 8:46 AM
rava

Quote:

Originally Posted by slab11

Sure ye all had us put down before we started at all so im not surprised at what your sayin but we will see...!

Great result for ye. Big game when ye play Ballyheane. Will all yere suspensions come into effect for that game.
07/09/2009, 8:00 PM
slab11

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Originally Posted by rava

Great result for ye. Big game when ye play Ballyheane. Will all yere suspensions come into effect for that game.

Not too sure about that.. Probably! Although we have one lad back from a long suspension so thats a plus!:)
It should be good!!
We need a win and thats hopefully what we will get!
Any more news on the Ballyheane/Erris story or whats gonna happen?
08/09/2009, 8:06 AM
GoodFootball

Quote:

Originally Posted by slab11

Not too sure about that.. Probably! Although we have one lad back from a long suspension so thats a plus!:)
It should be good!!
We need a win and thats hopefully what we will get!
Any more news on the Ballyheane/Erris story or whats gonna happen?

Ye need to win 3 of 5 to stay up at least, Ballyheane and S & F are must wins for ye and then anyone of Erris, Westport and Manulla. So if ye do stay up it will be a great achievement. All the best...

Think we could do ye a favour with S & F and Ballyheane, we need to win one more to be certain.
08/09/2009, 8:38 AM
Kilmore Fan

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoodFootball

Ye need to win 3 of 5 to stay up at least, Ballyheane and S & F are must wins for ye and then anyone of Erris, Westport and Manulla. So if ye do stay up it will be a great achievement. All the best...

Think we could do ye a favour with S & F and Ballyheane, we need to win one more to be certain.

Cheers! Some interesting games left to play so hopefully we can do it. Best of luck with the rest of your season too!
08/09/2009, 11:12 AM
Cloggs

isn't it nice to see everyone getting along??!!:D
08/09/2009, 11:27 AM
Kilmore Fan

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Originally Posted by Cloggs

isn't it nice to see everyone getting along??!!:D

Ha, ha, thats because the topic of conversation isn't Celtic vs Westport or Super League Vs A League. And before anyone jumps onto that and starts it all over again can we not just agree that they're all equally great
08/09/2009, 1:18 PM
hardcore

Quote:

Originally Posted by slab11

Not too sure about that.. Probably! Although we have one lad back from a long suspension so thats a plus!:)
It should be good!!
We need a win and thats hopefully what we will get!
Any more news on the Ballyheane/Erris story or whats gonna happen?

CT today has a story that bheane lost the points
08/09/2009, 1:20 PM
hardcore

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kilmore Fan

We beat Snugboro 1-0 today. Great game, even better result:D Both teams had lots of chances in rotten weather conditions but for once the result went our way. Great facilities there at Snugboro, my compliments to all there.

Fantastic win for ye. Well done. what were boro like? heard they were missing a few because of a funeral?:ball:
08/09/2009, 1:28 PM
FahyForever

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Originally Posted by hardcore

CT today has a story that bheane lost the points

It's in the Mayo news too. Seems to be the case.
08/09/2009, 3:04 PM
Kilmore Fan

Quote:

Originally Posted by hardcore

Fantastic win for ye. Well done. what were boro like? heard they were missing a few because of a funeral?:ball:

Snugboro a good quick team. They love the short passes. They've a few very nice players. Great facilities there too, once we found them. A few signs wouldn't go a miss ;)

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