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Have an awful lot of time for Andrews, commited , hard working player who gives it his all and has done a good Job for us since becoming a part of the irish side.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Think its a good move going to bolton , with coyle there hopefully they will go straight back up .
Absolutely thrilled he didnt join Celtic, way too good for them
He wouldn't have had much of a chance of getting regular first team football with Celtic.
Better chance with Bolton and 3 years is a good deal.
one match ban for Andrews with another match ban suspended....
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/euro-...cup-qualifier/
couldve been worse after his tantrum leaving the pitch
The man can't pass the ball ten yards.Quote:
Originally Posted by back of the net
commitment should be a given for a professional footballer.
Insightful commentQuote:
Originally Posted by dong
Spot on. He will score goals for bolton but he is a liability for us. If you are not capable of passing the ball simply then all the running/tackling in world is pointless. How can he be ahead of gibson. mccarthy, hoolahan and ireland on ability. if andrews remains a regular how can anyone see us playing better possesion football and using our midfield as an attacking platform?Quote:
Originally Posted by dong
according to squawka - http://www.squawka.com/player/keith-andrews - his average pass length is 17m = 18 yards.Quote:
Originally Posted by dong
so, yes he can pass the ball ten yards
Arsene Wenger thinks you need a team of artists with no attention to their mental / leadership attributes. What does he have? A team of fancy dans who choke all the time. Eric Morecambe was a genius, but he needed Ernie Wise to illustrate it. Teams often need the likes of Andrews as much as they need the Pirlos. Sure, we'd prefer if we had a Makelele or a Deschamps but we don't.
Disappointed he didn't get a Premier League move - he's easily good enough to be playing for half the sides in the league. I suppose at his age he has to look at keeping his family settled in the north west.
In fairness, that was only over three matches at the Euros. What is his average pass length over a full season? That would be a much more accurate figure.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
in order to work that out, you'd need to record every completed pass made in every game over an entire season, and then divide by the number of passes. Maybe Opta has it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
What does it matter what his average pass distance is? It's irrelevant. Somebody said he can't pass the ball ten yards and that was patently proven to be false. There is no more data required. I'd imagine Xavi's average pass is less than 10 yards but it doesn't mean he can't ping it 30 yards if he spots a pass.
Well he can.... :P
It could be he is better at long passes.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
To be fair 17m average pass distance is quite short and to only have a 70% success rate doing that is pretty terrible for a centre mid. Andrews reminds me a bit like Kilbane in that regard, very spirited player and leader in his enthusiasm and effort but struggles to do his primary job effectively.
He has a team that reaches champions league football year after year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Christ Charlie. I would have expected better of you clinging to a turn of phrase like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
The point is he is a terrible passer of the ball, anybody can see that. Compared to say, Keith Fahey or James McCarthy. We should be trying to move away from these all huff and puff players in my opinion.
With the 3rd highest wage bill in England so that's what you'd expect. They lost what, 9 league games last season? The dogs on the steeet think they're a soft touch and can be got at easily. Don't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by dong
Personally I think in a 2 man midfield you need a ball winner and a ball user, though ideally each player can do both. Andrews doesn't have much in the way of finesse but he's an important part of Trap's system. Now, the big point is whether Trap's system needs a tweak and I think it does. The tweak I would make would be to include McCarthy and Gibson with one other playing a bit further ahead. Whether that one other is Andrews or a better passer, say Hoolahan or Ireland(!), isn't something I'm fixed on and it'd depend on how things pan out. What works in theory and what works in practice are often very different.Quote:
Originally Posted by dong
How much does our squad cost?