US Presidential Elections

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Originally Posted by Newryrep

Yet in Florida the Democrats are only up 2% on them, although the other keys states seem to be going the Democrats way eg.

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The thing to understand about Florida is the there are a lot of retirees in the southern part of the state who'll identify with McCain. In the northern part, there is Billy Bob and Mary Sue and their 'redneck', gun toting, Amurica lovin', Obama is a terrorist spewing hillbillies, who'll identify with...wait for it....wait for it...McCain! In the middle of the state there are oranges, Mickey Mouse and plenty of nuts.

All things considered, it's amazing how well Obama is doing in Florida.

BTW There's a typo in the poll.

Option 3 should read "One of the other loonies"

If Obama wins Florida, he can thank Sarah Silverman

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Originally Posted by strangeirish

The thing to understand about Florida is the there are a lot of retirees in the southern part of the state who'll identify with McCain. In the northern part, there is Billy Bob and Mary Sue and their 'redneck', gun toting, Amurica lovin', Obama is a terrorist spewing hillbillies, who'll identify with...wait for it....wait for it...McCain! In the middle of the state there are oranges, Mickey Mouse and plenty of nuts.

All things considered, it's amazing how well Obama is doing in Florida.

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I thought these retirees would of most lkely come from the North especially the northeast ie New York, New England etc ie historically democratic area's

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Originally Posted by Newryrep

I thought these retirees would of most lkely come from the North especially the northeast ie New York, New England etc ie historically democratic area's

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With age comes conservatism.

The poll really should have listed the other candidates & not just grouped them into other loonies as this enforces the two party system.

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Originally Posted by Newryrep

I thought these retirees would of most lkely come from the North especially the northeast ie New York, New England etc ie historically democratic area's

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I would assume you're correct here, however, a lot of them come to Florida, weather aside, because it considered a conservative state with a lot of republican controlled local government. Now, having said that, the fact that the economy is in the tank and these retirees have seen their net worth drop dramatically, it is forcing people to actually look at the issues(shocking!). Obama is obviously the benefactor here and couple that with the fact that McCains negative campaign Ads are having little or no effect with these folks, compared to other parts of the state and country. This is part of the reason it is a tight race here in Florida.

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Originally Posted by pete

With age comes conservatism.

The poll really should have listed the other candidates & not just grouped them into other loonies as this enforces the two party system.

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or senility :)

Well, I voted in the poll. Everyone thinks I'm crazy as actually am voting for "one of the loonies" in the election proper. I prefer Obama, but I still don't particularly like him. I don't feel I can vote for a candidate that has pretty much said he'll invade Afghanistan and could yet do the same with Iran and Pakistan it talks don't go well.

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Originally Posted by jmurphyc

I don't feel I can vote for a candidate that has pretty much said he'll invade Afghanistan and could yet do the same with Iran and Pakistan it talks don't go well.

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This is a prime example of people not understanding, that in an election like this Obama has to do a fair bit of pandering to appeal to right leaning independents, and moderate republicans. If Obama didn't take that stance its probable that he'd be behind in the polls right now - despite the economy.

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Originally Posted by dancinpants

This is a prime example of people not understanding, that in an election like this Obama has to do a fair bit of pandering to appeal to right leaning independents, and moderate republicans. If Obama didn't take that stance its probable that he'd be behind in the polls right now - despite the economy.

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You mean he is not going to follow that policy? What else is he saying just to get votes? :confused:

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Originally Posted by jmurphyc

Well, I voted in the poll. Everyone thinks I'm crazy as actually am voting for "one of the loonies" in the election proper. I prefer Obama, but I still don't particularly like him. I don't feel I can vote for a candidate that has pretty much said he'll invade Afghanistan and could yet do the same with Iran and Pakistan it talks don't go well.

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You prefer Obama, but you'd rather vote for someone who can't get elected than expressing a preference between the two guys who can? It's not like Obama can offer Ralph Nadar a patch of the White House lawn for picnics in order to secure a majority. It's a crap system, but the way it stands, voting independent is spoiling your vote.

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Originally Posted by pete

You mean he is not going to follow that policy? What else is he saying just to get votes? :confused:

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Earth to pete, earth to pete....OBAMA IS A POLITICIAN...over.

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Originally Posted by dancinpants

Earth to pete, earth to pete....OBAMA IS A POLITICIAN...over.

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I thought he was a celebrity or a messiah :(

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Originally Posted by pete

With age comes conservatism.

The poll really should have listed the other candidates & not just grouped them into other loonies as this enforces the two party system.

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Please provide a link regarding your first point.

I agree that the poor description of the third party candidates shows an improper bias towards the accepted larger parties.
(Hope for the sake of the first point it wasn't a younger person)

Earth to me, earth to me...PETE WAS BEING SARCASTIC...over

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Originally Posted by GavinZac

very subtle!

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Big difference economically.

With allegations of potential voter fraud and vote suppression abound, the candidates have decided to have a dance off instead. You be the judge...:D

Click

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/ea..._id=1003875230

Breakdown of newspaper editorials backing one candidate or another. Obame with a 2:1 majority. Last time out Bush/Kerry were roughly level

National polls drifting a point to Mc and then back again - nothing majorState by state remains a huge BO advantage Go to:www.electoral-vote.comwww.fivethirtyeight.comfor details

Nothings too low for some Republican supporters, even on Halloween. Man, some people are just plain stupid.

i read this article by Bobby Kennedy in the Rolling Stone magazine, pretty scary stuff for "the greatest democracy in the world TM"

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...the_vote/print