Next Senior Men's Team Manager - Runners and Riders

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27/11/2023, 3:04 AM
Razors left peg

Looks like Carsleys odds have shortened considerably in other outlets. Don't really pay much attention to the bookies cos I think it's all manipulated, but it is interesting that betting has been suspended.

If there was going to be a usual process of interviewing different candidates I wouldn't expect this much activity so soon, personally I think it looks like a deal has already been sorted. Especially with all the backroom staff being let go last week too. Might be an interesting few days ahead
27/11/2023, 5:45 AM
seanfhear

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Originally Posted by elatedscum

probably just another marketing spin by PP.

Could you have bet that Paddy Power would have, suspended betting at certain stages ? !
27/11/2023, 11:07 AM
NeverFeltBetter

Looks to me that you can still place bets on this through PP? Carsley can be backed at 2/1 at time of writing, Roy Keane 9/4, Hughton 10/1.
27/11/2023, 11:12 AM
Diggs246

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Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter

Looks to me that you can still place bets on this through PP? Carsley can be backed at 2/1 at time of writing, Roy Keane 9/4, Hughton 10/1.

Thankfully Neil Lennon is drifting out
27/11/2023, 12:19 PM
JR89

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Originally Posted by Jolly Red Giant

Very valid point.

Couldn't see that happening - I think Warburton would want to be the gaffer.

Possibly, but think Warburton needs to be more realistic about his job prospects in today's game.
27/11/2023, 12:53 PM
CraftyToePoke

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Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter

Looks to me that you can still place bets on this through PP? Carsley can be backed at 2/1 at time of writing, Roy Keane 9/4, Hughton 10/1.

PP suspended it last night, far as I know. Game on again today with a shorter short odds field, for the moment anyway.
27/11/2023, 1:12 PM
tetsujin1979

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Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke

PP suspended it last night, far as I know. Game on again today with a shorter short odds field, for the moment anyway.

Yeah, I checked it after 12 and all options were locked for next ireland manager
open again today
29/11/2023, 10:35 AM
JR89

Imagine subsidising the managers wages and you still get Steve Bruce. The man that was recently doing an interviewing saying he'll take any job in football.
29/11/2023, 10:37 AM
seanfhear

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Originally Posted by JR89

Imagine subsidising the managers wages and you still get Steve Bruce. The man that was recently doing an interviewing saying he'll take any job in football.

This would be comedy stuff alright ! ! !
29/11/2023, 10:42 AM
Diggs246

This is South American stuff

big difference between Denis O brien giving funds with no say in hiring ( as i understood it)

This is suggesting the guy will only pony up if its his choice of Bruce
29/11/2023, 11:03 AM
seanfhear

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Originally Posted by Diggs246

This is South American stuff

big difference between Denis O brien giving funds with no say in hiring ( as i understood it)

This is suggesting the guy will only pony up if its his choice of Bruce

Sort of making Steve Bruce a, Made Man ! ! !

Unless Steve Bruce is going to subsidise his own wages (wink)
29/11/2023, 11:06 AM
JR89

It's more than likely BS and has gotten O'Riordan the clicks he wanted because the only one that desperate to see Steve Bruce in a job is Bruce himself.
29/11/2023, 3:42 PM
EalingGreen

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Originally Posted by JR89

Imagine subsidising the managers wages and you still get Steve Bruce. The man that was recently doing an interviewing saying he'll take any job in football.

I wonder whether the "outside investor" might not be a certain Mr. Ecurb?

https://i.imgflip.com/65fq3l.jpg

(Assuming the subsidy is less than 100%)
29/11/2023, 4:01 PM
Razors left peg

There would be tumbleweeds through Lansdown Road on match days if Bruce gets the job
29/11/2023, 4:24 PM
Eirambler

The thing is though, Bruce would probably be a considerable upgrade on his predecessor if he got the job. Don't get me wrong, he wouldn't be my pick, but four Championship promotions, an FA Cup final and a Premier League manager of the month award is miles ahead of anything Stephen Kenny achieved and would actually probably be one of the stronger CVs in the submission list for the job.
29/11/2023, 4:56 PM
Razors left peg

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Originally Posted by Eirambler

The thing is though, Bruce would probably be a considerable upgrade on his predecessor if he got the job. Don't get me wrong, he wouldn't be my pick, but four Championship promotions, an FA Cup final and a Premier League manager of the month award is miles ahead of anything Stephen Kenny achieved and would actually probably be one of the stronger CVs in the submission list for the job.

Look, anyone who has managed in the top few divisions in England on paper would have a stronger resume than Kenny, but it doesnt mean Id pick a lot of them. If your criteria is has "managed better clubs than Stephen Kenny" you might as well add someone like Joey Barton into the list.

We want someone who actually gives a sh1t about Irish football. For all of Kennys faults he cared about the senior team and had a vision for the future of Irish football. He wasnt capable of implementing it but it doesnt mean we throw the baby out with the bathwater. I absolutely do not want someone who is only interested in picking up a paycheck. Bruce, Allardyce and any other English league washed up manager would not give 2 fcuks about anything outside of how much they get paid for a retirement gig. If we want a man on the English circuit who could be a decent manager I would suggest Dean Smith, but I havent seen his name listed anywhere.

Lennon, Keane and Hughton I would have in a separate bracket because while I personally dont think they are good managers, I dont think it would just be a paycheck for them. I just think they would all be crap.

I would genuinely rather Robbie Keane or Damien Duff than the vast majority of people linked. Carsley is the overwhelming favorite for me still, but if that isnt going to happen I hope that the process is not rushed.
29/11/2023, 5:40 PM
Eirambler

Yes I'm the same to an extent - Carsley first pick and we'll see where we go if he says no. But would Bruce be any more of a mercenary than Neil Lennon or Roy Keane? Granted they're both Irish, but if it came to it I'd see both of them putting themselves first. Bruce is probably a better manager than either of those two, albeit that's not saying a whole lot.
29/11/2023, 5:46 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by Eirambler

Granted they're both Irish

Bruce's mother is Irish and his son played for Ireland (both Irelands in fact). He wouldn't be a complete outsider in that regard
29/11/2023, 5:49 PM
Razors left peg

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Originally Posted by Eirambler

Yes I'm the same to an extent - Carsley first pick and we'll see where we go if he says no. But would Bruce be any more of a mercenary than Neil Lennon or Roy Keane? Granted they're both Irish, but if it came to it I'd see both of them putting themselves first. Bruce is probably a better manager than either of those two, albeit that's not saying a whole lot.

Lennon has probably the best peak high end achievement than any of them in that he got Celtic to knockout stages of Champions League, but by time he left Celtic he was a disgrace.

Bruce is probably just what Roy Keane would be with a longer managerial career. Both had reasonable success in Championship, both poor at times in Championship. Both ok for a time in Premiership and both crap in Premiership.... Bruce has just kept that same trajectory going for much longer
29/11/2023, 5:50 PM
Razors left peg

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Bruce's mother is Irish and his son played for Ireland (both Irelands in fact). He wouldn't be a complete outsider in that regard

Bruces son jumped ship to the North when he wasnt getting picked so was his heart really in it?

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