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EDIT with Pat's estimate.
Weekends games:
Cork v Limerick - 4,725
Sligo v Galway - 1,679
Harps v Shamrock Rovers - 1,281
Waterford v Cabinteely - 1,245
Bray v Derry - 799
UCD v Shels - 302
Wexford v Athlone - 261
Longford v Cobh - 225
Drogheda v Dundalk - 1,500 estimate seems general consensus.
St Pats v Bohs - 2,000 estimate given here.
Must've counted the players, ball boys etcQuote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
Athlone Town board were probably there as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
Jesus no, way more than that, closer to 2,000 than 1,000, good Bohs crowd.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Extratime or one of the papers had 1800 for Saint Never Relegated, which looked about right to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Was a bit surprised at that one myself. Pats vs Bohs in Inchicore normally averages around 2kQuote:
Originally Posted by PartySaint
The official attendance at Pat's v Bohs was 2,077.
799 is a shocking attendance for Bray a team going well in 3 rd place do the people of bray not have some respect for football on their doorstep ??
Bray have never had good attendances - bar an FAI Cup final when people were let in for free.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guitd
It's looking this year that 3 teams with a good geographical spread, history, fanbase etc are in danger of being relegated, whilst a few of the teams that are weaker off the pitch are looking likely to stay up. Well done FAI !
Week 16:
PREMIER DIVISION
Bohs - 1,948 (1,627; 1,724; 1,395; 1,597; 1,496; 1,488; 1,835; 2,366)
Bray - 998 (957; 769; 718; 891; 965; 1,121; 952; 1,169)
Cork - 4,523 (2,533; 3,263; 3,777; 1,965; 2,786; 2,128 FD; 1,693 FD; 2,681)
Derry - 1,486 (1,563; 1,124; 1,106; 1,446; 1,460; 2,135; 1,965 FD; 2,436)
Drogheda - 899 (583 FD; 813; 1,064; 817; 977; 811; 859; 1,106)
Dundalk - 3,133 (2,738; 3,158; 2,534; 1,997; 949; 1,355; 1,877; 2,371)
Galway - 1,233 (1,169; 1,290; 975 FD)
Harps - 1,154 (1,216; 784 FD; 449 FD; 479 FD; 429 FD; 433 FD; 644 FD; 480 FD)
Limerick - 1,770 (1,131 FD; 1,206; 757; 1,649; 734 FD; 569 FD; 598 FD; 429 FD)
Pat's - 1,523 (1,088; 1,321; 1,386; 1,687; 1,474; 1,346; 1,756; 1,631)
Rovers - 2,996 (2,041; 2,890; 2,269; 2,763; 3,127; 3,779; 3,794; 3,611)
Sligo - 1,621 (1,750; 1,750; 1,959; 2,342; 3,007; 2,103; 1,807; 1,756)
FIRST DIVISION
Athlone - 194 (156; 314; 653 PD; 754; 271; 200; 354; 462)
Cabinteely - 413 (352; 610)
Cobh - 374 (403; 366; 223; 439; 2008 - 1,122 PD; 681; 368; 403)
Longford - 319 (488 PD; 803 PD; 567; 379; 365; 315; 230; 260)
Shels - 489 (554; 596; 713; 1,114 PD; 1,187 PD; 781; 737; 972)
UCD - 233 (297; 216; 397 PD; 487 PD; 506 PD; 558 PD; 610 PD; 272)
Waterford - 1,490 (314; 460; 470; 478; 453; 466; 619; 434)
Wexford - 314 (585 PD; 553; 331; 227; 302; 216; 343; 494)
PREMIER AVERAGE: 1,950 (1,476; 1,681; 1,502; 1,566; 1,630; 1,547; 1,512; 2,010)
FIRST DIVISION AVERAGE: 478 (476; 486; 495; 391; 372; 578; 682; 417)
OVERALL AVERAGE: 1,406 (1,117; 1,249; 1,160; 1,140; 1,125; 1,110; 1,095; 1,175)
TOTAL WEEKLY ATTENDANCE: 14,094
OVERALL PREMIER ATTENDANCE: 212,559 (292,204; 332,805; 297,334)
OVERALL FIRST ATTENDANCE: 30,616 (52,807; 54,474; 55,408)
OVERALL COMBINED ATTENDANCE: 243,175 (345,011; 387,279; 352,742)
rather unusually I'm defending the FAI.. Surely the 3 teams with a good geographical spread history fan base etc are more responsible for their situation than the FAI, two of them would have gone down anyway, plus is it not fair play to Harps etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
The point is that the way you answer the many challenges facing Irish football is not to send more clubs into the graveyard division, replicating a change that has been tried twice already this century and deemed a failure.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
It has or is a scatter gun effort - try everything in hope that something is a silver bullet, i think everything superficial has been done at this stage with mid season split, 10 teams, 12 teams, 10 teams and summer football, cherry picking clubs, relegating 2 then 3, promotion/relegation playoffs, we had an all-Ireland competition, 4th and 5th will now play in a Scottish Trophy etc. The only window dressing that hasnt been done is Europa League play-offs. All bar spending any significant resources on the league. Maybe that tide is turning at least from a representation point of view if the FAI really are lobbying hard for sports grants and underage structures being properly introduced. Any mention of mid season splits fills you with dread as any club in the bottom half of the split unless in the middle of a relegation battle crowds drop off so being top of the bottom is nearly worse than in a dog fight. As for 1st Division well it just gives you the heebie jeebies at the thought - be very afraid Pats fans as it truly is as bad as people say.:excruciating:
Window dressing and chopping and changing is just short-termism. What’s needed is a commitment to a decade-long framework with unchanging numbers in the divisions and multiple goals – centralised marketing and advertising for attendances, PR and community relations for increased awareness and respect, (both either through the FAI or, my preference, hiring competent professional agencies) improved facilities and bringing through young professional players from affiliations with local junior clubs to enhance clubs’ community embeddedness. And not twitching when something isn’t perfect first time round, but seeing it through over the course of the plan.
That’ll cost a chunk, which is why the FAI should emphasise job creation and income tax revenue, more tax from sales of club merchandise and club profits from higher attendances, social benefits etc when lobbying for state funding. The more that flows back to the exchequer, the more the Department of Finance approves, and that’s where the money comes from – not Sport or Health or Local Government or whatever other department disburses funds the league could tap into.
There seems to be an upward swing in PD attendances – it’s the right time to invest – but the hard work will be in the FD. You'd hope in time that if PD attendances do increase, when a club gets relegated the percentage fall-off in attendance would still leave the club not far from its old PD average unlike the catastrophic halving that some clubs experience now.
2037 Dundalk v Finn harps
1470 Limerick v Pats.
Is that a low crowd for the favoured 6.30 Saturday evening kickoff?Quote:
Originally Posted by gael353
With 3 home wins all season its no wonder. 1400 is your regular heads. If they put a good run together it would increase significantly. Limerick people are very fickle.
Bit late now but I read something somewhere over the weekend that there was an official crowd given for Drogs v Dlk as 1,681 or something, def 1,6xx, heard at the Dlk v Harps match that Drogs sold over 1k tickets to Dlk fans on the night, seems a bit high but not sure there was more than 600-700 home fans there so maybe wasn't too far out.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Considering Limerick were getting only about a tenth of that crowd a few seasons ago, I'd say yees have little to complain about in fairness.Quote:
Originally Posted by LK37oldskool
1,400 as a base-line attendance would be pretty damn good in the LOI.