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17/08/2007, 10:59 AM
youngirish

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Originally Posted by NeilMcD

Its the tempest by Shakespeare.

Shakespeare was pants.
17/08/2007, 10:59 AM
tetsujin1979

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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

I wonder if Stan's opinion of him was permanently formed having witnessed his performances from close proximity in WC02.

For Germany's goal, you can clearly see Staunton ordering Harte to watch Klose, while he went out close down Ballack (might not have been Ballack) but Harte left him go, and Klose scored.
17/08/2007, 11:06 AM
Stuttgart88

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Originally Posted by geysir

Wasn't there a season in the EPL when they were all fawning over Beckham and his free kick goal count, meanwhile Harte matched him all the way.

Remember when Beckham scored "that" goal against Greece, from about his eighth attempt of the day from the same position? 30 mins later Harte stepped up and did the same against Cyprus in the first minute! He scored with his first attempt against Israel too I think.

Zidane's pressure kick against England was the best of all IMHO. The first dead ball he'd taken in a year. Perfect.

Ireland's set pieces have been atrocious since Kerr took over, Kavanagh being a major culprit.

Andy Reid can take a decent free kick so we're not entirely lacking. I believe McGeady is handy enough though I think Naka takes all the plaudits at CP.
17/08/2007, 11:59 AM
Sligo Hornet

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Originally Posted by youngirish

Shakespeare was pants.

Tuffpaddy has told us not to use UK slang words........so do you mean Shakespeare wore pants!;)
17/08/2007, 12:13 PM
Wolfie

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Originally Posted by youngirish

Shakespeare was pants.

I'd love to have written just that and literally nothing else on the English Paper in the Leaving Cert.

"Shakespeare was pants". I rest my case. :D
17/08/2007, 12:26 PM
as_i_say

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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Remember when Beckham scored "that" goal against Greece, from about his eighth attempt of the day from the same position? 30 mins later Harte stepped up and did the same against Cyprus in the first minute! He scored with his first attempt against Israel too I think.

Ireland's set pieces have been atrocious since Kerr took over, Kavanagh being a major culprit.

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You're not wrong about Kavanagh-he was atrocious for us in the Kerr reign-balooned more free kicks and passes out of play than any other player i can think of recently
20/08/2007, 9:41 AM
Kevin77

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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Harte was derided by many from the moment he first played for Ireland, a little known teenager played at CB by Mick. Given the circumstances I think he did OK early on. There are always players that get a disproportionate amount of criticism and Harte is one of those. We have no divine right to a quality left back.

He was a decent enough left back in his "prime" in 2001/2, but the reality was that Kevin Kilbane provided a lot of defensive cover for him. They worked well as a unit though, each dovetailing & covering for the other.

Of course one can't underestimate the importance of Keane in that team's "success" but equally I don't think you can underestimate the importance of balance in a team. I think that team was the best-balanced team we've ever put out, the absolute classic 4-4-2. A right footed right back who could get forward, a left footed left back who could get forward, an aggressive centre back and a ball playing centre back, an energetic left midfielder, a classic central midfield pairing, a good wide midfielder and a classic forward pairing. Duff playing out of position was probably the only "square peg".

Harte was an important part of this balanced unit, and his dead ball delivery was also something that made the team greater than the sum of its parts.

He was probably the only player who performed well against Switzerland at home.

I wonder if Stan's opinion of him was permanently formed having witnessed his performances from close proximity in WC02.

I'm not fussed about Harte anymore. I think we've better players, but I do wish a natural left footer would come along & make the psition his own.

Good to see you are still on here making your informed, balanced and well thought out posts. A very fair assesment of Harte's career with Ireland.
20/08/2007, 8:57 PM
dr_peepee

There's a generally reliable poster on a sunderland message board that rekons Harte is in Sunderland for talks..... Dunno how true it is so don't hold me to it.
21/08/2007, 8:38 PM
dr_peepee

Harte trained with Sunderland today.
22/08/2007, 8:06 AM
Wolfie

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Originally Posted by dr_peepee

Harte trained with Sunderland today.

What's the diagnosis Dr?
22/08/2007, 11:38 AM
kingeric

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

What's the diagnosis Dr?

yep, looks like Sunderland will sign him in the next couple of days to, erm, sort out their defensive frailties. :eek:

Andrew Cole passed medical today. The Man Utd retirement home that is Sunderland has got another member.
16/02/2008, 6:03 PM
danonion

Is this man's career over? He played full 90 minutes for Sunderland reserves the other day, any chance he is in Keanes plans. We still don't have a left full....
16/02/2008, 7:45 PM
OwlsFan

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Originally Posted by danonion

Is this man's career over? He played full 90 minutes for Sunderland reserves the other day, any chance he is in Keanes plans. We still don't have a left full....

If any team is looking for a full back with no pace, I am sure he'll be looked at.
16/02/2008, 8:56 PM
Delbertt

Ian Hartes a gonner
16/02/2008, 9:13 PM
eirebhoy

A player that relies on confidence immensely.
16/02/2008, 10:00 PM
Scram

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Originally Posted by eirebhoy

A player that relies on confidence immensely.

Yes, very talented but very easily "down" as displayed in 2002 where his confidence was at an all time low. Looks like he'll never achieve to his ability.

Not sure if there are problems with commitment and/or fitness but his tracking back after going forward was dreadful a lot of the time both at club and country level.

Always thought that he needed a strict disciplinarian for a
coach but who knows if that is correct? Can't judge these things from the "outside"
16/02/2008, 11:20 PM
Qwerty

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Originally Posted by danonion

Is this man's career over? He played full 90 minutes for Sunderland reserves the other day, any chance he is in Keanes plans. We still don't have a left full....

He is not in Keane's palns, during the transfer window he was told along with Cole & Kavanagh among others that they were free to look for new clubs. I wouldn't say his career is over but his EPL career certainly is. Maybe SPL or France...
09/04/2008, 8:54 PM
carloz

What i make is that it is not controversial whatsoever and that there was no need to start this thread
09/04/2008, 9:52 PM
geysir

There must be some prize that we don't know about, going to the poster who starts the most threads before May.
10/04/2008, 12:29 AM
Serb

He's not even playing for his club, and is probably on the Transfer List with the rest of the Sunderland rejects. Not in any way controversial.
10/04/2008, 12:30 AM
irishfan86

While I wouldn't say his exclusion is controversial, on merit he is no more or less deserving of a spot than Connolly.
10/04/2008, 8:10 AM
macdermesser

Can we merge this to the Ian Harte thread ... you know the one where the general consensus is that he is too slow, can't mark or track back, although he has a great left foot .. there isn't really any position for him in football .. maybe in some American football way where he is wheeled on and off for the odd free kick.

Would it be possible to merge this with that thread and then somehow bury it? Fed up with Ian Harte threads..
10/04/2008, 8:59 AM
Drumcondra 69er

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Originally Posted by Ciaran

What do you make of his controversial omittance?

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

LOOK AT ME!!! EVERYONE, LOOK AT ME!!!!!

Pointless thread......
10/04/2008, 11:25 AM
jmurphyc

The poll makes this thread a bit meaningless. Surely that was done about 5 years ago?
10/04/2008, 1:25 PM
Dr. Ogba

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Originally Posted by jmurphyc

The poll makes this thread a bit meaningless. Surely that was done about 5 years ago?

would have been interesting to see who voted yes.....I fear I may have been one of those 60 :o
10/04/2008, 1:58 PM
lionelhutz

Is there any chance Ciaran can be banned from starting threads??

Ive nothing against him posting away on existing threads but when I come on here for a few minutes now and again it p***es me off seeing these pointless threads top of the list - and yes i see the irony of putting this thread top by posting this but if it stops him starting idiotic threads in the future its worth it :)
08/05/2008, 4:08 PM
geysir

Just like my dog came in with some bone he buried last year in the garden.

But fair f�cks to Ciaran, he found his bone again even if a mod had buried it in a different place.
08/05/2008, 4:18 PM
finnpark

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Originally Posted by lionelhutz

Is there any chance Ciaran can be banned from starting threads??

Ive nothing against him posting away on existing threads but when I come on here for a few minutes now and again it p***es me off seeing these pointless threads top of the list - and yes i see the irony of putting this thread top by posting this but if it stops him starting idiotic threads in the future its worth it :)

I agree
08/05/2008, 7:55 PM
The Legend

He should be allowed to start one more Ian Harte thread in 6 months..

.. "What ever happened to Ian Harte and where is he now?":p
08/05/2008, 10:27 PM
geysir

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Originally Posted by Ciaran

Just because you don't agree with what I have to say doesn't make it "worthless"

You are right there.
It's much more, that you agree with what you have to say, makes it worthless.
08/05/2008, 11:39 PM
tricky_colour

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Originally Posted by The Legend

He should be allowed to start one more Ian Harte thread in 6 months..

.. "What ever happened to Ian Harte and where is he now?":p

Likely to be Ipswich, Norwich or Leicester City.

Ipswich finished 2 places off the playoffs.
03/07/2008, 3:53 PM
Closed Account 2

Any news on this, has our Miha signed with anyone ?
03/07/2008, 6:08 PM
irishfan86

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Originally Posted by cfdh_edmundo

Any news on this, has our Miha signed with anyone ?

Watford apparently interested.
04/07/2008, 7:33 AM
Sligo Hornet

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Originally Posted by irishfan86

Watford apparently interested.

Unlikely to come to Watford as we don't have the money to pay the wage he will require.....Club is also now up for sale:(
http://www.watfordfc.premiumtv.co.uk...338029,00.html
04/07/2008, 10:17 AM
seanfhear

harte would be only of any use to a club if american style goal kicker was introduced to football so that he could take the set pieces.I remember in the haydays of leeds they played against an italian club and the attacker just forced him inside on his right side and it was embarassing how inept he was .This coupled with a lack of positional sense and lack of pace makes a mistry of how he has had such along career and the fact a player of this quality has [though not recently] been in contention for a place in the irish team goes a long way to explain the performance of the irish team during that period.Mick mccarthy should have tried a lot harder to keep denis irwin in the irish squad as he was still the best optiuon even in 2002 at left full back. Denis would not be far down the list of irish all time greats.
04/07/2008, 11:18 AM
Drumcondra 69er

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Originally Posted by seanfhear

harte would be only of any use to a club if american style goal kicker was introduced to football so that he could take the set pieces.I remember in the haydays of leeds they played against an italian club and the attacker just forced him inside on his right side and it was embarassing how inept he was .This coupled with a lack of positional sense and lack of pace makes a mistry of how he has had such along career and the fact a player of this quality has [though not recently] been in contention for a place in the irish team goes a long way to explain the performance of the irish team during that period.Mick mccarthy should have tried a lot harder to keep denis irwin in the irish squad as he was still the best optiuon even in 2002 at left full back. Denis would not be far down the list of irish all time greats.

What a crock of sh1t. Harte was voted onto the PFA team of the year in 1999 and was very solid in his earlier career. His passsing ability and dead ball ability was up there with Beckhams in the premier league at that stage. A lack of pace and then confidence eventually cost him and he shouldn't be near the team now but to write off his entire career is laughable. A lot of his later problems at Leeds were as a result of Kewell refusing to offer any sort of cover at all.

Irwin was a savage player but had **** all left in his legs when he left. He was playing Championship football while Harte was playing well in the later stages of the Champions League, it was a no brainer. And how you can talk down the performance of the team during McCarthy's reign when we never finished outside the top 2 of a qualifying group and qualified in a campaign for only the 4th time in our history when Harte was our joint top scorer is beyond me.
06/07/2008, 9:26 AM
OwlsFan

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Originally Posted by Drumcondra 69er

And how you can talk down the performance of the team during McCarthy's reign when we never finished outside the top 2 of a qualifying group and qualified in a campaign for only the 4th time in our history when Harte was our joint top scorer is beyond me.

I think you know why - he was probably wearing a red jersey when he was typing his piece. I was never a huge fan of Harte but he certainly was worth his place for his dead ball kicks alone. If I recall correctly he had to stand in at centre-half on a few occasions as well. In 20 years time when we've probably qualified for nothing since, Mick Mc's days as manager will be looked on as the halcyon days.
09/07/2008, 10:10 PM
Colbert Report

Where is Harte going to end up this season? Back at Leeds?
10/07/2008, 2:04 PM
charliesboots

Anybody know if Harte has signed/spoken to/trained with anybody?

(the reason I checked this thread in the first place)
10/07/2008, 2:11 PM
DmanDmythDledge

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Originally Posted by charliesboots

Anybody know if Harte has signed/spoken to/trained with anybody?

(the reason I checked this thread in the first place)

Looks like he is going to Watford.
http://www.eleven-a-side.com/search/...p?newsid=32997

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