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Originally Posted by irishultra
Obviously you havent watched many of his matches he has one of the highest ball retention rations in the premiership for a midfielder and also put in the most tackles for man city this year even though hes ment to be attacking right/free role player
Hes also our 4th highest scorer and concidering elano takes pens thats not bad,, and he only has 4 goals in 6 international,, nice input though......
okay... this poster is DEFINITELY Steven Ireland.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manblue
Well he is right though!Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
I like Stephen Ireland, but it is true that a lot of City fans want him out of the club.
I'm just trying to say he is not our ''saviour'' or some Kakaesque midfielder.
probably... it is him after all!Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Facts are facts,, i wudn go into a debate without them,, and im not saying hes our saviour at all i was jus replying to some of the postsQuote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
This is why it is such a frustrating situation. He is obviously full of potential, however without commitment and determination that potential will never be fulfilled. Just to put those 4 goals in perspective, Cyprus,Quote:
Originally Posted by Manblue
San Marino, Slovakia and Wales. Am I alone in thinking we should be beating teams like this by 2-3 goals every time we play them?? We need to stop underselling ourselves, we can produce a team made up of players from supposedly the best league in Europe plus probably the best player in Scotland. Why do we not believe we can hammer a team of amateurs or three teams predominantly made up of lower league players and as I previously posted, why do we feel the need to beg a player to play for us. Why not leave him alone and when we qualify for the WC let him come grovelling to us begging for a chance to play on the worlds biggest stage, by then I reckon this forum will be telling him to get f*#ked because Owen Garvan or Steven Reid will be bossing our midfield with Andy Reid or Glenn Whelan helping them keep it together. We have quality in the centre lets have a little faith in them.
Why are ye still acknowledging his refusal to play for his country by keeping this thread going?
All this thread is doing is offering false hope to the masses and obviously the situation hasn't been resolved so it's time to get over it and focus on the new generation of Irish football minus Stephen Ireland.
Obviously he's an idiot who thinks he deserves world class treatment when the truth is that he is an idiot who deserves absolutely no special treatment for being an average player with an under-achieving team.
Great - we have a thread about Stephen Ireland and some people are slagging off Liam Brady, one of our greatest and most committed players. Lets see if anyone remembers whats-his-name from Man City in 20 years time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manblue
Doubt it. If he is remembered it will be for the wrong reasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by RiffRaff
Link Ciaran?
A man who speaks sense. Nice one rambler. And to those who are giving Liam Brady a hard time, get bent, the man is a footballing legend and deserves some respect.Quote:
Originally Posted by rambler14
A man who speaks sense?? R14, come off the stage?? :D:DQuote:
Originally Posted by SilkCut
maybe stephen ireland is one of those misunderstood genius's that come around once in a lifetime.The only problem with this is that so far we have only seen the tiniest glimpses of this[particularly in an ireland shirt].For us to appreciate the great loss we may be losing he has to give us a few years of that genius so that we can then lie prostrate at his feet and beg for his forgiveness and mesiac return to save us
If only he was that good mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
Lets move on, hes obviously a fool and has shown no desire or commitment to play for his country, something that 99% of the people on this forum would love to be able to do.
I'm over it.
i wonder could ireland end up like this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7431283.stm
I agree, but if he could play like he did at OT this season over a consistent basis, he really would develop into a genius.Quote:
Originally Posted by RivaldoBabb
I really think he(if he stays at a good level) will move to Italy/Spain or Germany to play football within the next three years. He seems to have that sort of charachter who would want to play in them leagues.
I didn't vote because there is no "Not bothered" option.
if Mark Hughes is appointed manager i think mr Ireland will be on his way i dont think
he would be his type of player i hope it happens becuase the way he has behaved up
till now is jest not on
The headline could be spun as
"Most of the fans either don't want Stephen Ireland back or want him to apologize first."
I don't know what way to vote,
How about a
No, not even if he apologized on RTE - option
Same option, but also mentions his love for his dog who is now 2 legged, but can use his tail for balance.
I'd vote for a - let me back in, I'm sorry and I'll promise to score at least a goal in every game I play.
I'm undecided - can the dog say "sausages" like the one off of "That's Life"?Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
I thought someone would ask if it was front or the hind legs missing.
Could have a leg remaining at the front and a leg remaining at the back. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Tbh geysir I don't think the american papers would have much interest in a piece about stephen ireland. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
We dont want him.He is more mad than i am and believe me that is Crazy!!
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Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Here we go again. Mr Smarty ass with his usual glorious input!! Hey thought you were to meet me at the match last Thursday man what happened dude?
He got stoned and he missed it.
Looks more and more likely that Stephen Ireland will not return.
From my reading of Ireland's language since he went on the bounce, it is a consistent story.
He says he wants to return and play but won't turn up, blaming his own wolf stories, blaming Stan or the players, blaming Given and if we can give any credence to Kerr's deep throat, blaming Liam Brady from the new management team.
It looks like he gave absolutely no indication to Trap that he will return or that he even wants to.
Trap, as a good Italian, just mentions his positive feelings that if he changes his mind the door is always open.
Trapattoni
“I called one week ago (3rd week in May) and I said, ‘Now you know my number’. Now I wait.’ My feeling is that one or two said to me, ‘At the moment no, because I have a problem, but in the future, there is a possibility I will come back’”
For the first time I am begining to believe that he wont come back, I dont think O'Brien will anymore either.Finnan looks like he will, but for the other two to leave international football at such young ages is disgraceful
Ireland might come back some day(when he's like 28), but yeah Razors left peg, I sort of agree.
Looks like it Razor and will he say anything about it? NO. At least Finnan has the balls to come out and say well I'll meet him. As for the other 2 especially Ireland the silence says it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Just wondering how thats balls sure they already met,, i wonder whats more to be dicussed,,Quote:
Originally Posted by ShamrockIreland
And its only been two weeks if man city sign ronaldinho and jo and the rest hell be looking to play all the games he can,, wait till after footballers hols at least for them to announce
Hope you're rightQuote:
Originally Posted by Manblue
I still dont understand why he is 'retired' from international football.
It was HIS decisiion to lie about his grannies while in eastern Europe, it was his decision to walk away from that big game against the Czechs. Then after that we had to accept him not coming back to the squad. Now he still wont give an answer as to whether he will come back or not. I do not see how anyone can have sympathy for the guy. Personally if he retires now i wouldnt want him back into the squad ever again, even if he had a change of heart. Yes he is a talented player but we shouldnt have to put up with this **** from any player. This circus must be a laughing stock to English and Scottish fans
Thats your opinion, but the majority of fans would like to see him backQuote:
Originally Posted by carloz
So it would appear from this poll. Shameful really, us chasing after a player like Ireland, France didnt chase Cantona and did OK without him. England didnt chase Shearer (well not to this extent). There have been numerous situations like this and in almost all cases the National FA's and fans involved had the dignity and pride to just walk away and carry on. Not us Irish though eh? Nope lets be happy to continue underselling ourselves and bowing to the demands of those who reject us. We are acting like a psycho ex-boyfriend / girlfriend who cant accept we have been dumped and are prepared to change everything about our natural selves in order to stay in a relationship which in the end will only be destructive to us. WAKE UP PEOPLE we can and will do better than this f##king gimp, let him go and look to the future, if we bow to his demands once we will be bowing to kiss his arse for the remainder of his career, forever worried that he may take off in a huff again. No team should ever entertain such a character. He does not want to play for us therefore he should not play for us, it would be better to have a player with half his talent and double or triple his commitment wearing his jersey. Stop letting people **** all over us, as Ciaran Fitzgerald famously said "Where is your fu#king pride"Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
yes well, france had deschamps,desailly, djorkaeff,blanc,barthez,thuram.... england had scholes......bla bla bla...u get my point-------Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkCut
who have we? dunne and keane?!!
we arnt chasing after the player....just trying to convince him, he is one of our star players. and WE DO NEED HIM.
i agree, he must be a bit of a nut job, but hes talented. i wonder how Mark Hughes will take to him??
I'm one of the guys saying we should take him back (if he wants to come back), but if I were Hughes I'd sell him for 8 million if Roy (or anyone else) bid that amount.Quote:
Originally Posted by beepbeep
Chasing - Convincing, at the end of the day it is the same thing. We are selling ourselves short and showing an enormous lack of confidence in the players we have to replace him. He is not a "Star" player he is a regular starter with a mid table premiership club, he is being linked with Sunderland not Utd., Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal or even Spurs, Villa or Portsmouth. This is not just because he is young either, each of the top four have had huge success with buying young midfielders or even bringing through their own (Gerrard, Lampard, Carrick, Scholes, Fabregas, Flamini) None of them have shown the remotest interest in him therefore he must not be good enough. Even Garvan was linked with Villa, while James McCarthy is being linked with everyone and their dog!! Steven Reid was linked with Utd which suggests that if he can avoid injury he will be a star. We do not need him or his disruptive influence. I know transfer rumours etc.. dont really count for much but there is no smoke without a fire. As for the players the other countries had at their disposal my point is that they were of the same level of talent as the players who quit, we have players of the same calibre as Ireland. We will never progress if we are afraid to let go of players who dont want to play. This whole situation gives me the sh*ts. Fighting Irish my arse. Fawning Irish more like. We are becoming a joke and as a proud Irishman it hurts.Quote:
Originally Posted by beepbeep
I dont think we have been chasing him all that hard,Trapattoni has met him once to ask him to come back and has now said that the 3 players have his phone number and its up to them to call him if they want to return, I dont think there is anything wrong with that.I also disagree with you that England didnt chase Shearer this hard.There were media campaigns to try to convince Shearer to change his mind, and it was the same with Paul Scholes.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkCut
Bottom line is that while we have some good players in midfield we dont have the same choice as France, England or other big countries so if we are to be sucessful we need as many options as possibly