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f*uck me a tough nailbiting 12o mins thought utd just about deserved to win it over the 12o mins,, everybodys favourite ronaldo i thought had a decent game great goal, barr the missed penalty.. delighted ambrovichs millions did not buy the european cup. felt terrible for terry to miss penalty he is a smashing player but once again penaltys are a lottery and as for drogba a clown at the end was in vidic's ( man of the match) pocket all night
roll on euro 2oo8 :ball:
Well said, I'm a United fan but I felt gutted for Terry(who is one of the few Chelsea players I like) if anyone should of missed it should of my that lovable character Ashley Cole, although Anelka would of been 2nd on the listQuote:
Originally Posted by old git
^ lol
It was a decent game, both sides having each half although Utd were slightly better when they were in control and also they were the better in ET. Penalties are a bad to win imo.
Man U better up until Chelseas fortunate equaliser and then Chelsea were the better team after that.Penalties cruel yes but compelling viewing esp when you dont really care who wins.
Drogba is a fool of the highest order and why was Terry taking a pen in the 1st place? hard to believe he was one of the top 5 peno takers available, probably just wanted the glory of scoring the winning penalty, serves him right
I thought that when I saw him stepping up too. As soon as I saw it was him taking the fifth penalty, I knew he's miss. I thought he'd work himself up way too much and blast it. I know it's easy to slag off Grant, but it was really foolish of him to choose Terry to take the final one. I don't have any idea why he decided to do that. Perhaps he let his heart rule his head.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morbo
I think had Drogba still been on the pitch it may well have been a totally different outcome as he may have scored his penalty. However, he can only have himself to blame for what happened.
like niesh im a mad united fan but my heart goes out to terry, hes a born leader, chelsea man through and through. Great spectacle all round, ronaldo did well but i felt rooney as usual was sacrifised to win, and they did win but football should be about individuals too. My man of the match was tevez, the man is outstanding. Work rate, honesty, the hole package for me. The sending off was a disgrace makelele surrounded the referee all night over every decision, tevez did what chelsea had done to united twice and they hit the roof, drogba, told me tonight what i always knew about him great talent, but a absolute clown, cant spell it properly but hes the most petchulant?? gowl to ever grace a football field, yet the top of his business. Hes a lucky boy the kept vidic away from him, christ it would have been like watching alien vs predator
I am sure the 160k a week he's on will ease the pain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neish
Absorbing match but I still hate the soccer culture of feigning injury, shouting for a corner/throw that obviously isn't theirs, surrounding and moaning at referees and now stopping play when a player sits down and wants his leg rubbed.
What Maluda was doing on the pitch for 90 minutes I have no idea. If Makele had concentrated more on his football than harrassing the referee, Chelsea may have done better. Don't particularly like Chelsea but I would have preferred them to win as an ABU, despite having Drogbha and Ashley Cole on their books.
A much better game than I expected. Was expecting a cagey affair with both teams too nervous to try anything but in fairness to both teams they gave it everything and it resulted in an enjoyable game (something that is getting very rare between top teams these days). I felt for John Terry alright but I honestly felt that his slip didn't make that much difference to the flight of the ball. Looked to me like he slipped just after the point of contact.
Certainly a game of two halves anyway with United the stronger in the first and Chelsea dominating the second. It will be very interesting to see what that does to the Chelsea team. If it's true that some of their top players are leaving then it could take them a couple of years to regroup.
I'm a neutral so just wanted to see a good game which it was...thought Vidic was MOTM and shored up (yet again) Rio's many deficiences, however would love to know what did he say to Drogba that got him so wound up (although Drogba was foolish to let that happen) , .... as for Terry feel sorry for him, however his miss is what adds to the great 'tragic theatre' that football can be sometimes be.... or maybe you might just hold the view that he was wrong to step forward, who does he think he is Dave O'leary ??
What IMO lost it for Chelsea was Grant playing Essien at r/full instead of midfield.
Very harsh on Terry. The man had the guts to step up to the mark. I'm sure there are better peno takers but I'd say half of them were crying 'cramp' or some other sh*te. As for Drogba, I wouldn't be surprised if that coward deliberatly got sent off so he wouldn't have to take one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morbo
Very sad night for this lifetime member of the ABU Society
Before I comment on the match let me say that as a Liverpool fan, I couldn't care less who won last night but unlike some of the previous posts I honestly didn't think it was a good game.
It did have some great moments of skill, brillance Browns cross for Ronaldos header, Cechs double save, Drogba shot off the post.
For me Vidic was man of the match a super performance, I also taught Joe Cole played very well.
Did anyone else notice that on 3 occasions the officals gave a corner/goal kick decision in Man U's favour all 3 involved Joe Cole and all 3 were wrong!!!
But despite all of that extra time and penalties was comedy gold to see Drogba (diving cheating knacker) sent off and his reaction after was priceless and I had a good laugh at that. Let alone the fact that he raised his hand to bitch slap Vidic, he ran from the halfway line to get involved and that alone warrants a yellow card IMO.
Also for Mr. Chelsea (as he is called) to slip while taking the peno, I thoroughly enjoyed that one. Here is a "man" who is nothing more than a bully, he interferes in every decision a referee gives during a game and to see him crying like a baby last night one word Mr,. Terry Karma!!!
Finally, the ref was poor in that he let players from both teams surround him and hassle him to book players of send them off. UEFA/FIFA have to move on this now and make it so only the captain can talk to the ref and not half the team
United were brilliant in the 1st half, shocking in the 2nd half, poor in the 1st half of extra time and were very good in the 2nd half of extra time.
I thought Paul Scholes was outstanding. I was dissappointed to see him taken off.
United should have been 3-0 up at half-time, if Carrick had only placed the ball in the corner rather than straight at Cech!
Drogba was an idiot as usual. Lampard scored one of the luckiest goals he's ever scored(and he's scored some lucky goals!) Other than the goal I thought he did nothing.
In the end I think United deserved it. It was a fitting way to end the season.
Fair fooks to the penalty takers for Man Utd, considering that Ronaldo's taken every penalty this year it showed bottle for the players who stepped up to step up.
From a neutral perspective I really enjoyed the game last night.
Had to laugh at RTE's analysis of Terry's penalty, you wouldn't get it anywhere else!
Tevez was my MOM by a mile - outstanding.
Drogba - Idiot of the hightest order.
Referee - gave some bizarre decisions in Utd's favour.
Joe Cole - the biggest whinger on the pitch last night by a mile.
Last but definitely not least - Well done Ryan Giggs.
Big United fan so happy days. Kind of feel sorry for Terry as well, would have preferred if Cashley had missed, but then again, when you look back at the game, watcxh Terrry slyly lob a gobful at Tevez after Drogba is sent off. Terry is walking away, pretends to wipe his mouth with his sleeve and lets a little spit slip out into the face of Tevez.
That said, think he was the best player on the pitch.
Very disappointed with Rooney, disagree with earlier appraisal of Scholes, dare I say both he and Giggs are just a little past it at this level now?
Ref gave Utd some dodgy decisions over corners and throw-ins and what have you.
Thought United had a lot of moaners in the side, but good lord God, Chelsea can't half cry like a crowd of hormonal girls. Ballack should have been sentr off for 2 yellow cards for dissent far earlier in the match than when he was actually booked. Terry is a bully, Drogba is moan moan moan, Joe Cole needs a kick in the ring, Cashley is, well, Cashley.
Great game. Was delighted Chelsea lost as they spent the whole game diving, cheating and monaing. Vidic had Drogba totally shackled. Ronaldo was good. Carrick one of the worst passers of the ball on the pitch. I think he only scored his penalty cause he tried to pass to Cech. David May award for most shamless celebration. - John O Shea. Did anyone see Platini giving two medals to Grant? must have been one for Mourhino. At least Bobby Charlton had a bit of class and refused a medal.
The Second medal Grant was given was for Drogba.
I have to laugh at the United posters on here actually having the Gaul to suggest that they deserved to win it. They played well for 1/2 an hour in the first half and where completely overrun in the 2nd, ffs they only won it because John Terry lost his footing at the most inopportune moment imaginable, Van Der Sar was beaten by the penalty so if he hadn't slipped it was game and championship to Chelsea. But I suppose Utd fans are used to fluking their way to wins in big games by now
Excellent in the first half. Non existant in the 2nd. To be fair Chelsea totally over ran the United midfield in the 2nd half so he wasn't the only one.Quote:
Originally Posted by rambler14
I'd recommend you watch your 2005 win against Milan again ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Block G Raptor
Totally agree that we robbed Milan blind that night, as they did us Last year. I think most Liverpool fans would admit that but will Man U fans admit that the better team lost last night .....not in a million years they won't thats why no one likes Man U fansQuote:
Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
Ferguson could do with watching last nights match again, did anyone here see him on ITV. "We were magnificent in the first half. the 2nd half was more even but I think we just about shaded it too, so over all we deserved to win":eek:
if he really believes that Utd shaded the 2nd half then the man is delusional
I thought we were excellent in the first half but Chelsea got back into it in the 2nd half after making sure Carrick and Scholes were pressed much quicker. Extra Time? Fairly even. They hit the woodwork twice but Man Utd had a lot of good chances to have wrapped the game up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Block G Raptor
Vidic was MOM -Drogba was in his pocket all night. Terry and Lampard are getting MOM in the papers I've read so far today and they must have been watching a different game to me.
Big United should've had it sown up by half time, and Chelsea can hardly bemoan bad luck too much considering the two deflections and van der Sar slipping for their goal. That arguably changed the game from one of United dominance to giving Chelsea the momentum.
Anelka didn't even look bothered he'd missed, which is typical of the guy. Great to see Kenyon get the reaction he deserved when he went up to collect his losers shield. wtf UEFA are doing giving it out anyway, but typical of his ego that they couldn't have got an ex-player to go up for it.
FC promoted to the Northern Premier. Big United European Champions and Champions. Not a bad season of English football.
Found it all a bit too gay, like the Eurovision.
Bring back Leeds and the 70´s.
Anelka deserves special mention for escaping the rap.
would have been a perfect finish if cole missed last penalty :D:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Neish
not the managers decision on penalty takers he should have organised order a bit better . if players dont have the b*lls to step up what can manager do at least terry was man enough to step up .. but ballack should have been left as last penalty taker :ball:Quote:
Originally Posted by jmurphyc
did u miss the 2 great chances to go 3 nil up before chelsea scored with first lucky shot on goal in 44th min utd totally owned fist half.Quote:
Originally Posted by Block G Raptor
were overrunn for long periods in second half .. buts thats football
if's & buts if terry had not slipped if he did not hit post he did unfortunatly thats the joys of football :D
Man UNited fan here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Block G Raptor
United were the better team for 40 mins, Chelsea for 50 and then in extra time, it was a bit more even.
Overall, the better team last night drew!
Okay, the better team lost on the night, but the better team over the course of the season, in their own league and in Europe, won.
Of course Ferguson is myopic, but tell me any club that wouldn't want him manager of their side with his record? Of course Rafa the Gaffa always calls it straight.
I understand what you're saying, but it is the manager's decision on who takes penalties. Okay, if nobody else on the team was willing to take one of the first five, then I guess it could only be JT if he was willing. But he should be attempting to calm them all with a relaxed talk before asking who is willing so that some may change their minds. In the 2005 final Carragher was desperate to take a penalty and Benitez supposedly totally refused even though he was really up for it. So Grant could have told Terry that he couldn't take one. As I said, I thought Chelsea had it in the bag and then as soon as I saw Terry walking up I knew it would go to sudden death.Quote:
Originally Posted by old git
Actually, I was just thinking of other players sent off in finals, and of course Zidane suddenly popped in to my head. As much as Drogba is a cheating **** and Zidane was generally loved for his ability on the pitch, nobody seems to be sypathising with Drogba today - everyone seems to agree that he got what his reputation deserved - but after the '06 World Cup Final there seemed to be a lot of good will towards ZZ. Now, as I said, there's no doubt that Drogba is a total cokc but Zidane's actions were far worse than Drogba's (IMO).
I agree his record stands for itself, but I just can't stomach the man. He moans at everything that doesn't go his way He NEVER admits that he got something wrong or that his team was beaten by a better team. He takes no responsibility when things go wrong(Grey Jersey's indeed:rolleyes: ) and takes the plaudits when things go well, he uses ridiculous mind game tactics to unsettle the opposition and referees. He is NEVER gracious in defeat and alway obnoxious in victory.Quote:
Originally Posted by WoodquayBoy
Exactly. When they lost to Chelsea in the league he came out with - amongst other things - the ludicrous statement that a penalty shouldn't decide such a big game. I understand that he feels he needs to protect his players from the spotlight, but there's a certain way of going about things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Block G Raptor
he has he bad moments but now 23 years with a club like man utd he must be doing something right .. like all the other managers ,, how many admit they were wrong / moan at decisons that go against them they all do it / ridiculous mind games with players & managers they are are profesional people and should be all i used to it by now ,, as for talking the plaudits when things go well why not he is the manager after all .. :ball:Quote:
Originally Posted by Block G Raptor
Very entertaining game in my view. Utd were streets ahead in the first half and could have been 2 or 3 up. Chelsea got a lucky equaliser but then were the much better team in the second half. It was an even extra time really so a draw was a fair result. Then you have the penalties which comes down to luck skill and bottle.
Delighted for John Terry he is a nasty bit of stuff and along with Dessie Byrne was involved in a very unsavoury incident. He was not much of a captain in tears after the game only thinking of his own pain whereas there was Lampard who appears to be a bit of a classy guy holding himself together even though he lost his mother.
Ronaldo shut up the doubters as he scored in a big game. In the end hard luck to Avram Runner up Grant.
You really are a bitter Liverpool fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Block G Raptor
Got up at 3.30 in the morning to watch it, and for a while I thought I'd fall asleep pretty quickly.
First half - United were superior, and I thought they could have had a couple more before Lampard equalised.
Second half - Chelsea were superior, but didn't create as many clear cut chances as United had in the first half.
Extra-time - Pretty even, Chelsea probably shaded it.
Drogba deserved his red, but I thought he didn't dive as much as usual, hardly at all in fact. I actually thought he'd played well until the red card.
People on here are whinging about Chelsea players harrassing the ref, but from what I saw, Hargreaves was as bad as anybody.
A few posters have said Tevez was their MOTM, I couldn't agree with that, I thought he huffed and puffed, but not much else. For me, Vidic was the best player on the pitch, although I thought Ballack did well also. Lampard was ineffective apart from his lucky goal.
Read my previous post, I said he was myopic. But I repeat, I don't believe you wouldn't have him as a managerQuote:
Originally Posted by Block G Raptor
I don't see why any of the other top English clubs would want him (in Mourinho's time, still nobody seems to commend Grant), much like Utd wouldn't want any of the others. Wenger has done a fantastic job at Arsenal, Mourinho did a fantastic job at Chelsea and Grant is carrying on the trend to an extent, and Benitez has done a fanstastic job at Liverpool. None of the big 4 wants the others, as everyone is content with their own managers. There's no proof to suggest that if Ferguson was managing one of the other teams that he'd do any better. In fact I think he'd do worse, much like the rest would do worse than him at Utd.Quote:
Originally Posted by WoodquayBoy
I know you said he's myopic, I could think of a few other words for him but I'll settle for myopic coming from a Man Utd fan as the majority of ye wouldn't even go that far. as for us wanting him, Thanks but no thanks, he's just not Liverpool material he's too obnoxious (and before you say it I know Benitez has his obnoxious moments but he's not in the same league as ferguson in the obnoxius stakes) Like I said you cant argue with his Trophy haul but just compare him to a thorough Gentleman like Bob Paisley and tell me Ferguson is not a GitQuote:
Originally Posted by WoodquayBoy
As for Neil McD my opinion of Ferguson nothing to do with Bitterness or being a Liverpool fan. I'm old enough to remember him managing Aberdeen and I hated him then too