If only Rovers had held out he could have returned as a younger and cheaer player than Gannon...we could do with some young experienced cover ourselves!Quote:
Originally Posted by DCSIL
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If only Rovers had held out he could have returned as a younger and cheaer player than Gannon...we could do with some young experienced cover ourselves!Quote:
Originally Posted by DCSIL
There is no doubt the SPL is miles better than LOI, but as we have discussed top 2 (not top 4 or 5 that I said before, I take that back) would compete with all bar old firm. The Scot Championship gets much bigger tv revenue hence bigger prize money, not sure that is much better than our PD, would prob be on par for most of our teams.
On euro performances, Pats drew with Celtic** away, Bohs knocked out Aberdeen, but prob 20 years ago now, Shels came close with Kilmarnock in the 90's and also they were 3-0 up 'away' to Rangers, all in the 90's.
I do remember one season not too long ago, when Rangers were on a low, they were beaten by a Lux side, and into r2, there were more LOI teams v SPL in Europe, but all one off's, and overall SPL as I said a far better standard.
** Dundalk v Celtic 1979 (2-3 and 0-0) - that was the one which could have made things tasty, last 16 of old EC. A a 1-0 home win would have done it for Dundalk, when 19k of the 22k at the game claimed to be behind the town goal to see Tommy Mc miss his 'sitter' which on replay in Jimmy McGee's 'once in a lifetime' show was actually not as close as all thought, still it was a good chance.
Those old games don't count for much these days in fairness.
I could see Rovers competing that I think about it - although that's in part cos of the Euro money, which they'd lose if they suddenly found themselves in the Scottish second tier. Dundalk also get good European money of course and I suppose how well they'd do depends on how decent (or not) their new squad is. The 2016 vintage would probably do quite well alright
I think Scotland is miles ahead of us. How many full-time players are in the LOI? Actual full-time players, 52 weeks of the year, no other job on the side. Would Scottish Leagues 1 and 2 be fully pro?
Don't think so. Some, but not most. The bigger clubs who shouldn't really be there, like Falkirk - are probably pro. East Stirling in their worst years were on £10/week
Falkirk are where they deserve to be, maybe lower.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Some Championship teams are still Part time but the bottom two divisions certainly are.
They deserve to be there, sure, but they still shouldn't really be there. Same as Cork deserve to be in the First Division, but shouldn't really be there. They're too big for that.
Three years ago, only Brechin and Dumbarton were part-time in the championship - .https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43936932 Brechin got four points all season. Dumbarton were also relegated, 17 points off safety. Brechin in particular is an extreme example, but still, it's a struggle being part-time in that division
Speak for yerself UCD fan, those games are part of the lifeblood of local club legend!! ;) Meh its not all about euro money now that Rovers have sold out to D-Des and Dundalk having P6 on the books!Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Fairy nuff so - UCD would survive in the Premier League cos we only lost 1-0 to Everton over two legs :)
Have P6 put in any money?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
You forgot Derry's hammering of Gretna. I believe the last two times LOI sides have played Scottish sides in Europe, the Irish side has won. (The other one was Bohs v Aberdeen, as mentioned).Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
If there was no one there to see it did it actually happen?? Bit like the tree falling in a forest theory ;pQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Peak 6 own Dundalk, Dundalk had/have cash assets so yes they have spent their money. If you are talking about bankrolling aspects of the club that hasnt been with money earned directly by the club, nobody really knows but I doubt costs accrued could be covered without P6 adding to the pot and covering the shortfall - similar to Rovers and even Cork with Grovemoor among others tbh. Its not necessarily where fans (especially of other clubs) want to see money go at Oriel ie to a new away section and wider ground improvements. Dundalk fans I think have by and large given up on the possibility and we'd hate to deprive anyone of the stick to beat us with....though it would probably be just a return to pitch bashing if we had a fancy new stand built.
The question was whether P6 had "put in any money". Other than purchasing the club, and spending what Dundalk FC earn, "who knows?", is the more honest answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
I was under the impression the million paid to the two boys for the takeover came out of the existing cash reserves? More than happy to be corrected if that wasn't the case but I don't think P6 even put a penny of their own funds up for the takeover.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
In 2013 Drogheda lost 2-0 on aggregate against Malmo including a 0-0 in Tallaght and a very late goal in Malmo. They went on to beat Hibs 9-0 in the next round.Quote:
Originally Posted by Straightstory
I think suggesting that Dundalk FC dont earn enough o cover all running costs currently and hence P6 needing to pony up to make ends meets is a reasonable supposition - far from lacking in honesty. The net 2016 EL money wasnt a bottomless pit and imo no longer exists and 2020 EL money would have been all but eroded by the financial issues of this season along with paying the likes of Colovic an eyewatering salary. If bank reserves are minimal as I sspect they are then yes P6 are 'putting in money'. I wish it was a lot more with ground work included. Maybe we should have tried selling the club twice....Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
Well Pat Fenlon was Hibs manager at the time and European management was never his strong point. New Dundalk signing Sam Stanton was in that Hibs team hammered by Malmo.Quote:
Originally Posted by boynemunich
Luke McNally has been sold by Pats to Oxford United in League One for an undisclosed fee. It was only a matter of time before he went across the water so no surprise really although disappointed not to have him for this season. Great for the club to get a transfer fee during covid times too.
According to Neil O'Riordan Pats turned down 2 bids of £50k and the one that was accepted in the end was a lot higher than that with performance related bonuses also included
Open to be corrected, but I thought you had? Matthews bought it then The Kwik Fit crowd and then P6?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Fast Fix ! And yes I think the joint owners got around 1m between them as part of the deal. The thing was, DFC already had 2-3m in their account at that time. P6 came in, debatable if they actually paid anything for the purchase, or rather took on the running of the club, being responsible for all the bills.
They made losses for two years, but should enjoy a nice profit from 2020 figures.
Great player - year on loan with Drogs he was a star , hoping he has a great career in ukQuote:
Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract
Conor McCormack signs for Galway, serious signing for that level.....
https://galwayunitedfc.ie/conor-mcco...galway-united/ Massive statement of intent and great work by all involved. That’s all our work done before pre season starts first time ever in over 35 yrs involved with the club.
The interest is massive county wide and hopefully fans will get in at some stage.
Good signing for Galway that, must be the first time in a very long time that a First Division club has paid a transfer fee for a player
By that logic we never got relegated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Mark Russell back at Harps, one of our better players last season, really happy to see him back.....
I like that logic.Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
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Originally Posted by El-Pietro
We all gasp at straws - I often refer to the trauma of almost a decade in the 1st Division, its blanked out of the mind, not sure there were people there to see the Sean McCaffery season either so never actually happened and was just a bad dream!! Just keep the eyes closed at games....Quote:
Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid
Has a 1st Division team ever paid a transfer fee? JC is fairly splashing the cash at Galway now too but at least the sponsors have deep pockets. Is GUFC fan owned or what is the setup there?
Wot was the trf fee in the end 2 year?Quote:
Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract
A two year fee??
Aaron Bolger has signed for LTFC on loan from Cardiff. Along with Aaron Robinson from Bluebell. To add to our collection of Aarons also featuring Aaron McCabe, Aaron Dobbs and Aaron McNally. Just need to get Aaron Callaghan back as coach now.
No idea, just saw that Derry announced they had agreed the deal for his transfer to Derry (he was in contract for 2021), haven’t seen any rumours of what the fee wasQuote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
It going to be interesting to see what happens with regards to funding for the coming season. Seems like the government support at the moment isn’t what clubs are looking for. I suppose clubs that have been signing good players on presumably decent contracts over the winter won’t be in a position to cry the poor mouth when it comes to the new season kicking off.
Luke McNicholas on loan to Harps from Sligo
Sligo have signed Richard Brush
Aaron McEneff looks like he’s going to Hearts. That’s a big loss for Rovers though I presume they’ll get a few quid for him.
McEneff would be a loss to any team in the country but with Gannon signed, rovers can now move Finn back into midfield in his place. Not to mention the abundance of other options in midfield they have it’s probably their strongest area of the pitchQuote:
Originally Posted by Yossarian
McEneff best midfielder in the League by a country mile IMO, a box-to-box player too and they are gold dust these days. Tougher to replace than Jack Byrne but the reported €200k fee will soften the blow - especially for a player who could have signed a pre-contract in July leaving Rovers with nowt.
Yes id agree on moving Finn back in also Watts was excellent when he got some game time last year so a loss but better there than seeing Scales or Grace / Farrugia going.
Fee in the region of 200k according to Dan McDonnell on twitter.
Not bad business providing others step up but also shows how lowly people rank our league if 200k for probably the best midfielder in the league last year is the best offer
I guess it says a lot about the league that Sligo aren't in a position to turn up their noses at a 36-year-old Dick Brush. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
McEneff is a huge loss to Rovers,that's alot of creativity gone from their midfield with Byrne gone as well......