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Well Mancini has come out and backed Hart do that ends that
There is quite some focus here on Hart's every blip or perceived blip.
He is a very good goalkeeper. Mancini has to stick with him.
Conflicting reports today
This morning, it was reported on football365 that Given was willing to move to a Championship side: http://football365.com/story/0,17033...708730,00.html
And then this evening, the Manchester Evening News reports that he's not moving at all: http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereven...oberto_mancini
Some alleged ITK tweets + posts on the Leicester forum claiming that Championship club is Leicester http://www.foxestalk.co.uk/forums/in...c=70401&st=160
Shame if he has to drop a league, but I think Leicester are a financial anomaly at present. Serious clout.
Various reports that Spurs have bid £4m for Given, and it's been turned down
Doesn't start today against Notts County either.
Hart was a little eccentric in two incidents in the first half today (did'nt see the second half)
He is young though.
I think its unfair that Mancini did not let Given play in the FA cup. Given should move if he gets a good offer anf if the Loads a money club let him go.
That's Robbie sorted, over to you Shay.
The solid backup. What a degrading (albeit lucrative) predicament he's gotten himself into at Citeh. I'll bet he's never empathised more with Steve Harper.
Only saw the goals on the news, but Hart didnt look great for their goal again, am I been over critical? But the robot that Hart was earlier on the year certainly seems to have disappeared.
Spurs making a bid for Given would seem like journo/8 pints2shorts/alcove epiphany stuff but I actually believe it. It makes perfect footballing sense for Arry and Spurs to bring in Given. Cudicini is well past his best and Gomes is a good keeper but I feel Given at his best can just shade him. Plus Redknapp has bought Gallas. Is trying to bring in Phil Neville today. He wants players with plenty of Premiership experience. This could go to the wire today.
thought harts positioning was terrible for that goal. standing in no mans land due to trying to clear the attacker out of his way. should of been a defender on him in fairness. zonal marking is an absoloute disaster.
shays main problem seems to be that city won't let him go to a rival club, which pretty much rules out anybody that would be interested in signing him
I was at the game yesterday and behind the goal when Hart conceded the goal. He got irritated with Westcarr (who wasn't doing anything wrong) and stepped forward to give him another shove when the ball came whizzing over his head. He's also a very quiet goalkeeper. Doesn't really communicate with his back 4. Other than that he had very little to do.
Interesting. I would have blamed the defenders - nobody got anywhere near the ball and allowed the attacker a clear run on the ball. Not much a goalkeeper can do in that situation except try and get in the way of the ball.
Arsenal rumoured to be making late bid for Shay......would be great news but doubt if Mancini will let it happen.
http://www.footylatest.com/arsenal-t...ay-given/19632
hes stayin it seemsQuote:
A few of you are asking about a possible Sven-Goran Eriksson swoop for Manchester City's second-choice keeper Shay Given but my understanding is there is no chance of the Republic of Ireland international joining Leicester, or anyone else today. City got left short between the sticks by an injury to Given last season when they had loaned Joe Hart out to Birmingham, and they are not going to run the risk of the same happening again this campaign. Given to stay, until the summer anyway.
What happens if Given has to stay at City (as just reported on the BBC site) and remains number 2 and Westwood moves to Wigan today? Big decision for Trapatonni.
Given's number one. Ideally he'd be playing first team ball, but I don't think there's a decision to be made. Especially if he's not playing really, really poorly when called.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
I'm not sure it's fair to say Arsenal have a GK crisis. Almunia will be on his way, Fabianski actually looks decent when he gets a run of form up - the fans are becoming quite appreciative of him - and the other Pole looks quality in the making.
Would Westwood get a game at Wigan? Al Habsi looks very good. Just an aside - was Al Habsi the guy who came on late at the RDS and who also played in Algeria's second and third games at the WC? I thought he looked more than decent and was a country mile ahead of the hapless clown who started against us at the RDS and let in a howler against Slovenia.
No, Al Habsi's an Oman international.
Oooh scary.
If he stayed where he was he'd have saved it. He lost his concentration over a nothing incident. City are big on zonal marking and if somebody puts in a perfect ball then your up the creek.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
There are pros and cons to each system. The ideal system incorporates a certain amount of each.Quote:
Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
I think he'll stick with Shay. During the week he was stressing the need for Robbie to find regular football but in the same breath claimed it was 'different for goalkeepers' (paraphrasing).Quote:
Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
That guy put in a performance against Villa that was comparable to Shay in his prime. A string of unreal saves.Quote:
Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton
He was superb against Arsenal as well.
7:56
Steve@SkyBet: A late move from Cardiff to land Manchester City 'keeper Shay Given. The Republic of Ireland stopper is now even money favourite (from 33/1) to join Dave Jones' side after a number of large bets.
Fingers crossed he gets a move.
Leicester just signed Ricardo so that spells the end for Shay to Leceister.
Redknapp just said Spurs are signing no one so a spurs move might still be on.
Linked to Arsenal again in the last hour...
and less than an hour later Everton rejected a bif from them for Phil NevilleQuote:
Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
Lads......As much as I hate to suggest this as i am huge fan of Shay Given, now that the transfer window is closed and if Shay spends the majority of the remainder of the season on the bench (barring a Injury to Hart) ....should shays position as Ireland number 1 be reconsidered?? ( God I cant believe I have asked that, never thought I would or would have to )( I realise Noely posted a similar comment yday , But now that the windows closed , what do ppl think)
I'd stick with him for the Macedonia game, but if he isn't playing at the start of next season then it's time for a change
If we didnt have a good solid emerging keeper like Westwood then I would say no, but I think if Shay doesnt play much in the next few months, serious consideration will be needed. there is no way he can be as sharp as WW. If it happens i wonder will shay "walk away".
Shay HAS to move this summer, surely he will.
Shay could be Citys undisputed No.1 come next summer - does he still have to move?
Lets be sensible here, the opportunity to move has now gone until the summer, in the meantime Shay just needs to knuckle down, train hard and be ready and waiting to take the opportunity when it comes either through Harts poor form or injury.
If that doesnt happen then the time to re-evaluate the situation will be in May.
at 34 edwin vds was moving to united and about to enjoy probably the best years of his career, at 34 it looks like shays career is winding down :(
Felling a bit cranky tonight, are you? You've had a pop at Shay, Robbie Keane and Richard Dunne in the space of about 5 minutes.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by irishultra
Messi is useless too. Don't even get him started on George Best...Quote:
Originally Posted by EastTerracer
just sayin
from John Cross (Mirror journalist) twitter feed: http://twitter.com/#!/johncrossmirro...37947036782592
Read into that what you willQuote:
Never seen #mcfc boss Mancini so angry. Accused Phillips of diving, his players of sleeping, said may drop Hart, just about conceded title
Do you really think that will happen though?? Shay hasnt really been given any chance so far. The only ray of light is that Hart is on a bad run of late and appears to have had another bad game tonight. If Citeh arent getting results due to inadequate defence then maybe Shay will finally be given a chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Junior
EDIT: Just saw first goal and you'd really expect your keeper to do alot better, just a long free kick and it more or less went the whole way in. Not commanding at all.