Cork AUL 2011/12

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Originally Posted by offside rule

FAI UMBRO CUP 2nd Round

SPRINGFIELD A 3 - 0 CROSSHAVEN FC

By no means the greatest performance we ever gave, and prob wasn't the greatest game to watch!.
Made a few changes to starting 11 to make use of our squad size. Never got outta second gear, Crosshaven had maybe 2 half chances but other than than that the majority of chances and possession was all Springfields.
After going 2up, game really resembled a training match then, . . . Notable for 2goals for one lads on his first game for the club.
Anyway what counts is we are into the next round.

On the draw above - anybody have any info on 'Marlboro', what league they are in and where/location the play in Cork?

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buisness league i think!

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Originally Posted by offside rule

FAI UMBRO CUP 2nd Round

SPRINGFIELD A 3 - 0 CROSSHAVEN FC

By no means the greatest performance we ever gave, and prob wasn't the greatest game to watch!.
Made a few changes to starting 11 to make use of our squad size. Never got outta second gear, Crosshaven had maybe 2 half chances but other than than that the majority of chances and possession was all Springfields.
After going 2up, game really resembled a training match then, . . . Notable for 2goals for one lads on his first game for the club.
Anyway what counts is we are into the next round.

On the draw above - anybody have any info on 'Marlboro', what league they are in and where/location the play in Cork?

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I believe that they are in the Business League
We played the Business League Champions, Tile King, last week and beat them 8-1.
The standard of this league is much lower than the top AUL divisions it seems
I would expect any Prem or Prem A team to have no trouble

As for our own draw with Wilton?
Looking forward to what should be a great game.
These are the games you want to be involved in, not mismatchs where you win 8-1 :ball:

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Originally Posted by Inswinger

Man that was quick, was that draw made before the last round. Remember waiting a few weeks last year for one of the rounds to be drawn. Kinsale and Wilton must be delighted with that draw:mad:, great game in store. Kilumney and Macroom another to see a prem team to go, happy with our draw, all you can hope for is a home draw. Leeside going to Midleton, fancy them to get a good run in the FAI this year considering they are out of Aoh.

Am i right in saying that the 4th round, is the first out of town draw.

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Winners of next round into out of town (i.e. not the draw shown above another round to go) - 7 qualifiers from Cork AUL, West Cork, Cork Bus & Shipping & MSL Junior...

The 5th round is the first round out of cork so i take it.

Kinsale v Clonmel Town or Killarney Celtic
Game to be played at a Cork venue nominated by the MFA.

Carrick Utd v Pike Rvs
Game to be played at a Waterford venue nominated by the MFA.

Kinsale must be reasonably happy with that!

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Originally Posted by thebooboys

Kinsale v Clonmel Town or Killarney Celtic
Game to be played at a Cork venue nominated by the MFA.

Carrick Utd v Pike Rvs
Game to be played at a Waterford venue nominated by the MFA.

Kinsale must be reasonably happy with that!

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No easy teams in the semis but Carrick and Pike were the ones to avoid.
We are probably the Estonia of the draw though ;)

Glenvale 3 - Kilreen Celtic 0

Very disapointing performance from us Sunday morning in the match of the week. Went 1 down in the first minute, not marking men from a corner. Stayed that way until half time. Glenvale scored another header midway through second half. Caught us on the break with about 15 left, striker took down by our stand in keeper, penalty converted. Dont think we tested their keeper once. Shocking display but onwards and upwards i suppose.

havent been on here for a few weeks . I've been away with work so i missed a few posts - Shetland - you were asked by booboys who else you would have in the team , you keeping goin over this rubbish about McCarthy. everyone knows how good he is but he just doesnt want to play. The keeper Alberto you were referring to and hurley were the best around in junior football in cork hence there moves to Senior Football . If Hurley didnt go to Bandon he may have went to Avondale .Springfield looking very good as usual and should be tipped to go upSeems there isnt too much difference now between the top 3 divisions outside of the Kinsales/Wilton and leesides of this world as some of the recent cup results have shownhave many teams lost players to Australia or what??

Any predictions for the Oscar Traynor game v MSL Juniors next week??

I reckon we'll win easily.
Maybe by more than the 4-1 last year.
Remember, Tipp beat the MSL 4-0 already, so we need to score goals to ensure we only need a draw against Tipp to go through.

Good vibes this season as Kinsale have beaten Douglas Hall, and Wilton have beaten Rockmount, among other good results for our clubs.
The AUL should have too much for the MSL Juniors every year.

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Originally Posted by freddieflinston

havent been on here for a few weeks . I've been away with work so i missed a few posts - Shetland - you were asked by booboys who else you would have in the team , you keeping goin over this rubbish about McCarthy. everyone knows how good he is but he just doesnt want to play. The keeper Alberto you were referring to and hurley were the best around in junior football in cork hence there moves to Senior Football . If Hurley didnt go to Bandon he may have went to Avondale .Springfield looking very good as usual and should be tipped to go upSeems there isnt too much difference now between the top 3 divisions outside of the Kinsales/Wilton and leesides of this world as some of the recent cup results have shownhave many teams lost players to Australia or what??

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Shetland, Freddies post just reminded me of a point I wanted to make. You mentioned the AUL and the lost money. From my knowledge, they just trusted a guy in the same way you would trust the now manager of Kilumney. The blame lies with the person who broke the trust.

Nice 1 Horse, Keep me out of it for Gods Sake!!!!!!! One big difference was we didnt have 2 brass tacks to rub together!

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Originally Posted by Horse24

Shetland, Freddies post just reminded me of a point I wanted to make. You mentioned the AUL and the lost money. From my knowledge, they just trusted a guy in the same way you would trust the now manager of Kilumney. The blame lies with the person who broke the trust.

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horse how can u defend them ,come on a comittee should have been on top of it from start.200k if it went missing from a company the comittee would and should be saked full stop..you are constantly told its your league,but its the aul comittee that get the tickets and perks to the irish matches etc .some of them are there far to long ,it needs a total overhall.the league itself has lost a lot of cubs and members in the last few years and more will go this year.what you used the killumney manager as an example for makes no sense.

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Originally Posted by Shilts

Any predictions for the Oscar Traynor game v MSL Juniors next week??

I reckon we'll win easily.
Maybe by more than the 4-1 last year.
Remember, Tipp beat the MSL 4-0 already, so we need to score goals to ensure we only need a draw against Tipp to go through.

Good vibes this season as Kinsale have beaten Douglas Hall, and Wilton have beaten Rockmount, among other good results for our clubs.
The AUL should have too much for the MSL Juniors every year.

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Tipp won 4-1 didn't they shilts? I think the AUL will win this game also but I don't think the players should worry about the score at all. They should just go out, win the game & keep a clean sheet. Then if they got 3 or 4 then that would be the best possible outcome. Last year the AUL only needed a draw to go through but i think that suited Tipp better. I also think playing up in Tipp will suit Cork as all the pressure will be on the home side. I'm looking forward to the game Wednesday & hopefully the right result.

"horse how can u defend them ,come on a comittee should have been on top of it from start.200k if it went missing from a company the comittee would and should be saked full stop..you are constantly told its your league,but its the aul comittee that get the tickets and perks to the irish matches etc .some of them are there far to long ,it needs a total overhall.the league itself has lost a lot of cubs and members in the last few years and more will go this year.what you used the killumney manager as an example for makes no sense." Ah shetland shetland shetland ..................... you make it too easy.......Lets consider the AUL as a business. That would make the committee the board of the business and the clubs (of which you were a member at the time) as shareholders . At the meeting at the time as far as i can remember from reading on here NONE of the clubs (shareholders) asked the committee to stand down so the clubs are at fault there.As for the reference to the now Killumney manager i think and i'm open to correction here was that lets say IF and i mean IF money had went missing from ballyvolane (or any club for that matter) most fellas would trust a guy they know for years!! I dont think ANY of the Aul committee had any reason not to trust the guy who took it ( dont know him personally so cant say what he was like)

freddie well then the clubs have a lot to answer for so and if i can remember i couldnt make that meeting so dont know what happened.they should have been asked to resign in block.its the same thing year in year out.nothing changes,some teams are in sections for ten to 15 years,clubs dont get say in aul manager . its a closed shop. its my oppinion the league is going down hill fast . it needs a total over haul.

You actually worry me Shetland. You say that X,Y and Z shouldnt be in the AUL panel but never offer any alternative except A) players who dont want to play or B) players who are in a different league!!!And now you want the whole league overhauled ?? SO OFFER AN ALTERNATIVE!!! Who is going to do it???

that overhaul wont be long coming at the end of this season to the leagues now obviously not the commitee!!

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Originally Posted by six-yard-box

that overhaul wont be long coming at the end of this season to the leagues now obviously not the commitee!!

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Care to elaborate on that Six-Yard??

Shetland, I dont think the Committee are proud of themselves because of what happened. They are not professionals - they are football guys like me and you. Procedures, policies etc are found out in the English Premier League to be wrong on occassion and they have lawyers etc. At our level, a lot is built on trust and thats the key. Trust was broken. Clubs are short on volunteers, so I would think the queue for people who want to leave their clubs and go onto the AUL Committee is very short indeed. If they had resigned en masse, where would we have been last July?

For example, I am one of our cheque signatories. I live in Passage, the other guy lives in Fairhill. We have to sign ahead. I trust him, he trusts me.

Is six yard box referring to the end of the MSL agreement?

Is six yard box referring to the end of the MSL agreement?

We've all heard of the rumoured teams, think this is the overhaul he is referring to alright.

Boo, Id say six yard has heard the same as me in that the RUMOUR going round is the AUL Premier could have up to FOUR sides looking at going to MSL. next season, now that the "agreement" between the 2 leagues will be over.

who are the rumoured four teams looking to go msl. havent heard a thing bout this but my guess 3 of the 4 would be park, kinsale, wilton.

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Originally Posted by overthehill

Boo, Id say six yard has heard the same as me in that the RUMOUR going round is the AUL Premier could have up to FOUR sides looking at going to MSL. next season, now that the "agreement" between the 2 leagues will be over.

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Who are the four. Think I heard Park, Kinsale and Wilton at one stage. Leeside maybe?

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Originally Posted by overthehill

Boo, Id say six yard has heard the same as me in that the RUMOUR going round is the AUL Premier could have up to FOUR sides looking at going to MSL. next season, now that the "agreement" between the 2 leagues will be over.

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Who are the four. Think I heard Park, Kinsale and Wilton at one stage. Leeside maybe?

Yes that what I was talking about. Heard up to 7 teams moving with the senior league looking to go with 3 12 team leagues. Kinsale leeside buttevant and park are four definites presuming the other 3 are county based teams aswell.

Lads, quick question for those in the know, are players who have not registered with any club this season able to register now, or must they also wait to register on December 1st when the transfer window opens.

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Originally Posted by Radiostar

Lads, quick question for those in the know, are players who have not registered with any club this season able to register now, or must they also wait to register on December 1st when the transfer window opens. Our Club Secretary was told they couldn't sign till December, this is the first I have heard of this, can anyone confirm?

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They can register straight away as far as I know. Only transfers can happen post Nov 30th

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Originally Posted by six-yard-box

Yes that what I was talking about. Heard up to 7 teams moving with the senior league looking to go with 3 12 team leagues. Kinsale leeside buttevant and park are four definites presuming the other 3 are county based teams aswell.

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This is why everything I hear here must be taken with a pinch of salt

well someone somewhere is lying. it came from a senior league commitee member so make of it what you will!!1

Leeside 0-1 park. Game changed to leeside park after mitchstowm was unable to play. Result was deserved at end of day. Fair play to park, played nice football and where better on the day. 1 down at half time, had much more of ball on that but nothing creative. Straight out, that curly hair lad up front should be on Aul team any day of week.

I maybe wrong but I think Boo might know by now if Leeside are going to MSL? Buttevant said no to Prem A 2 years ago because they felt that they might not have a squad to compete - how are they going to go Senior?

Do the MSL teams have enough league games in 18? Adding 4 more is probably the last thing some of them want.

Our game against Bohs was called off.

well lads long time since i posted on this
involved with leeds this year,played wilton yesterday got beat 4 - 1.Taught that was a bit unfair to be honest had a few guilt egded chances but in saying that Wilton were outstanding from back to front and played some brilliant football,cant see many teams beating them on a good surface.

My rant today is regarding the amount of mismatch games in junior soccer.
There are too many cups where a 3rd Div team can be drawn against a Prem team (AOH, Munster Junior Cup, FAI Junior Cup).
For the last 3 weeks we have played teams that were not up to our standard and we hammered them.
It would be like putting us into a higher grade competition where we would get hammered ourselves (FAI Senior Cup??).

These games usually end up getting called off early.
This is of no value to either team.
Later on in the season the top teams will end up having to play midweek games until the end of May or into June to catch up, all because we wasted weekends early in the season playing mickey mouse games.
For those of you who live in hope of a giant killing, dream on.
There are far more 9nils, 10 nils and even a few 14-0 (like yesterday) than any fairy tale performances.

Any team that qualifies out of Cork in the FAI Junior Cup or Munster Junior Cup should be exempt from the first few rounds of the following season.
Premier teams should be exempt from the earlier rounds of the AOH Cup.

This would ease the pressure at the tail end of the season and also prevent some stupid scorelines where nobody benefits.

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Originally Posted by Shilts

My rant today is regarding the amount of mismatch games in junior soccer.
There are too many cups where a 3rd Div team can be drawn against a Prem team (AOH, Munster Junior Cup, FAI Junior Cup).
For the last 3 weeks we have played teams that were not up to our standard and we hammered them.
It would be like putting us into a higher grade competition where we would get hammered ourselves (FAI Senior Cup??).

These games usually end up getting called off early.
This is of no value to either team.
Later on in the season the top teams will end up having to play midweek games until the end of May or into June to catch up, all because we wasted weekends early in the season playing mickey mouse games.
For those of you who live in hope of a giant killing, dream on.
There are far more 9nils, 10 nils and even a few 14-0 (like yesterday) than any fairy tale performances.

Any team that qualifies out of Cork in the FAI Junior Cup or Munster Junior Cup should be exempt from the first few rounds of the following season.
Premier teams should be exempt from the earlier rounds of the AOH Cup.

This would ease the pressure at the tail end of the season and also prevent some stupid scorelines where nobody benefits.

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I'm guessing the 4:0 quoted on the website is incorrect then shilts...

I agree on the AOH cup - I think the two prem divisions should be held back until at least the third round then at least a team has won a few games for the "right" to possibly face one of the big boys, for the FAI and MJC - I expect that will have to come from on high as they are run by Munster council and FAI rather than being an AUL thing.

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Originally Posted by Innishvilla

I'm guessing the 4:0 quoted on the website is incorrect then shilts...

I agree on the AOH cup - I think the two prem divisions should be held back until at least the third round then at least a team has won a few games for the "right" to possibly face one of the big boys, for the FAI and MJC - I expect that will have to come from on high as they are run by Munster council and FAI rather than being an AUL thing.

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Whoever is in charge of a competition should try to ensure that teams of similar ability are grouped together.
Hammerings are no good for the winners or losers, or the competition.

Competition organisers, FAI, MFA or AUL should look at this and try to decrease the likelihood of it happening.

And the 4-0 on the website was just being polite.

I understand your point Shilts and actually discussed it with someone at the weekend.
Is there some responsibility on both teams to stop it after a certain time? Goal difference doesnt count in cups or league?

Would agree with seeding the prem sides in cups but you cant be calling a halt early to league games at premier level due to the Golden Boot, even though as you say Goal Diff doesnt count for anything.

Unfortunately, there will always be hammerings in football, just look at Man Utd this year, hammered Arsenal and hammered by City, I have been on the end of a few myself through the years, it's always hard to take and it destroys teams at times, but it's something very difficult to try and control especially at junior level.

Good point on the Golden Boot - but I suppose I meant more cup games

Best of Luck to the Cork AUL team tomorro night wether some people agree with the players or managers at the end of the day there the team picked to represent us all so let's just get behind them from the off and give them our support!! Good luck lads :-)

Anyone know what the final 18-19 was?? Who was dropped off or brought in???