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Was singled out on Sky Sports for a great performance, villa talk not saying much about him praising his partner instead (http://www.villatalk.com/index.php?n...=73575&start=0) but a clean sheet is at least a solid performance which is good to see.
Playing consistently and in one position can only be of benefit to him.
Heard a brief snippet of an interview with Ciaran Clark on Today FM on the way home from work he was saying that he was committed to Ireland and would never turn down a call up despite being out in the cold for a while now so fair play to him for being a bit more mature about it. Maybe Trap does not rate him? or is it more of a disciplinary issue? Its a shame he didn't get a call up for the last friendly given that he is getting a run of games with Villa at the moment which will hopefully aid his development.
trap sees him as a midfielder or full back probably....
If Trap saw him as a full back or a midfielder he'd probably have called him up for the last squad. I just think Trap reckons he's too impulsive and inexperienced at this stage of career and he'll get a shot at centre half once he shows a bit more maturity in his game. He's already showing maturity in his attitude towards not being picked so I'd imagine it's only a matter of time.
he played him full back and i thought at the time he made some comment about where he saw him
Something wrong if McShane is in the squad ahead of him though
McShane isn't in the squad as a centre half. He's in the squad to cover right full and centre half in a dire, dire emergency.
I don't remember Trap saying he saw Clark as a full back, but I think he just played him there for the sake of getting a look at his temperament, and he was fairly unimpressed from what I remember. Clark will get better, he is just not disciplined enough to be a Trap player right now. We saw with Ward's foul in Kazakhstan how easily one moment of impatience can lead to a goal.
If he stays in the Villa team which I expect he will. Trap might have another look at him against the Greeks
Afair, way back in Clark's 1st season when he was playing regular at CM, Trap claimed Clark was not a midfielder, that his position was at CH.
At least Clark got a person-to-person phone call from Trap, by standards that means he has a high ranking in Trap's thoughts.
As in a falling out with Trap over some indiscretion? I don't think so. There were murmurings in the media about some issue with Clark a while back but I'm not sure upon what they were based. Trap called Clark personally before naming the Euros squad, as far as I know; I doubt he'd have done that if there was some problem between the two.Quote:
Originally Posted by SolitudeRed
That was on Off The Ball on Newstalk wasn't it. Thought it was a great interview.Quote:
Originally Posted by SolitudeRed
It wasn't bad, but he did try his level best to break the record for saying "y'know" the most in a ten minute interviewQuote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
I liked when Eoin was pushing him on temptation to declare for England and Clark shut him up.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
The interview has been podcasted (that's a word right?) here: http://media.newstalk.ie/podcast/67752/popup
Interview starts just after 23 minutes
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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Precisely. So why is Ward in the team ahead of Clark? That's what's wrong with this current set up. You can have as much of a nightmare as you want and you'll still get picked because you have that little bit more experience than the other guy. Poor performances, and Ward has had quite a few, should meet their just reward. But we have a manager who apparently doesn't think that way.
Trap knows form is temporary class is permanent ;)
Because Ward is currently better at playing football than Clark. Ward is a technically better footballer who has more pace and, whatever you think of his talent, is well-drilled in full back play, which Clark isn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by mark12345
Solid first half so far although had little to do. Vlaar next to him has been very good. Clark just a little sloppy in the first 5 maybe.
Completely overrun in the second half, the midfield were non existent again...villa will really struggle.
Clark almost gifted spurs a goal in the last min when dispossessed in the middle of the pitch
I don't know what he was thinking there, he needlessly ran it straight at the nearest gathering of Spurs players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manblue
Bad mistake there alright. I noticed Vlaar is the captain so presumably he will be preferred to Clark when Dunne is back.
Have not seen much of Villa this season other than highlights really. But unfortunately what I have seen of Clark hasnt been impressive. He is young and learning his trade etc and he would be very beneficial to him if he was partnered by someone with the experience and leadership of Dunne. But as its centre half, its not the position that you can get away with many mistakes and he has made a few already.
Just called into the squad to replace St Ledger
So Clark's finally in, all of his fan club on here should be happy now:rolleyes: Can't think of many other omissions to get riled over for rest of week so chill lads, sure we'll be grand as long as it keeps raining cats and dogs...Quote:
Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
After being favoured to Clark at centre-half a few weeks ago, is Alex Pearce already out of favour with Trap then?
I dont think Pearce is in favour at Reading, just now, maybe that swung it.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Also, I think it was right for Trap to have a look at Pearce. It's not necessarily being favoured, though he probably was!
If Ward is in anyone can get in. So let's have a look at Clark. For the record, Wilson should be the left back. And if Trap doesn't play him against Germany (that is a highly rated Premier League defender) instead of a lower level Championship and international failure, in Ward, then all respect for him is gone. I mean what more evidence does Trap need about Ward's ability or lack of?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grafter
Don't want to open the 'best position' can of worms (it's centre back, 100 per cent) but he's got a versatility which could, for instance, free up Wilson to play centre mid.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Or Clark will be preferred ahead of Dunne.Quote:
Originally Posted by the bear
Wasn't playing today or on the bench for Villa Is he injured or what??
Ya he was doubtful for the game. I think it may have been his groin or something
BBC reported that he was an injury doubt for the game,
it didn't say when he picked it up.
This could go in any one of a number of threads. Aiadan O'Hara in The Indo saying that the less you play for Ireland the better you become!
http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...e-3266729.html
Probably deserves a mention for what seems to have been an impressive performance at centre back on Saturday. I'm sure he'll come up more potent attacks than Sunderland, for whom Demba Ba was their only scorer in October!! - but still good to see.
From Sky Sports - Sunderland 0-1 Aston Villa
Best of the Match
- Man of the match: It's a toss up between Villa's Ciaran Clark, Ashley Westwood and Barry Bannan - who were all outstanding - but the latter gets it for his calm and composed display in the middle of the park.
CD obviously missed that game.
Tomorrow will be a great test for Clark against an inform united strikeforce in RVP and Rooney.
Will also be a good chance for people on here who has seen little enough of him make a more informed assessment.
When will you be back in the team Stephen?Quote:
Originally Posted by Manblue
Last week mate :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
Some very good blocks and interceptions from Clark in the first half hour against Arsenal. Looking the more assured CB beside his more experienced partner Vlaar.