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Effectively a move to a League One team. Would have McCarthy ahead of him if fit obviously, but if Cullen and Molumby are playing regularly in the championship this season they should now move in front of him in the pecking order as well.
There must have been no championship interest in him at all for him to end up there.
Leaves Hearts by mutual consent - https://www.the42.ie/glenn-whelan-4-4955981-Jan2020/
Great choice of photo to be fair.
https://c2.thejournal.ie/media/2020/...-3-390x285.jpg
Reportedly refused to do any interviews or media work during his time at Hearts. Supposedly had a bad attitude there and wasn't a good trainer etc.
Nonetheless a short term contract for a League 1 or League 2 team should guarantee his starting spot against Slovakia.
Manager certainly wasn't impressed by him going by the criticism in the linked article, but then again few in that club to be impressed by.
yet he managed 17 appearances in four months and appeared to be doing quite well from the accounts I read.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
more likely to do with club finances or using him as a scapegoat for a rubbish season so far.
i've never known Whelan to be anything other than a dedicated pro.
I certainly wouldn't put it past that particular club to pull something like that, but realistically they had a very poor squad and a bad run of injuries so he was always likely to get games there. I don't think the reviews of his performances had been so good recently and then the manager removed him from the squad completely so clearly something not right.
Hearts are bottom of a league that contains three of four teams that would be Non-League level in England and he wasn't standing out even at that level, so given that we have at least three better options in his position, hopefully we will be moving on from Glenn now.
Did you watch any of his recent games for us? He has been a damn sight better than those beside him in the middle in the last 2 or 3 games.
in the papers this morning that he received 5 man of the match awards in the 8 home games he played for heartsQuote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
daily record comment on his recent performance at home v rangers:
Back in from start and was Jambos’ best performer in middle of park up until pulling up with a hamstring problem after 26 minutes. Replaced by Andy Irving and his experience badly missed
Given the harsh nature of the manager's comments, you have to presume there is an off-field issue between them.
Whelan interviewed in the independent: https://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...-38842836.html
I've worked with people like that manager before. From my experiences they are out of their depth and try compensate for their deficiencies by being a bully or a bell end
That struck me too. Single out a senior player whose reputation stands out among a squad of weaker players, but who has only months left on his contract so is cheap to get rid of, to scare the squad (a lot of lower league journeymen and young players) into performing better and show what a hard man the new manager is. That said, I think any hopes that Whelan will get a Championship team are fanciful. His best days are long behind him.
Found a summation (not signing up to the Indo): https://punditarena.com/football/ois...hearts-exit-2/
Hearts are floundering in a lot of ways if Whelan's comments on their admin side are true. I understand the manager has told the team captain he has no place there either. Seems like a desperate attempt to clear perceived deadwood and overpaid players to try and avoid relegation.
The headline is 'It feels like I have been thrown under a bus'. He says Stendal had a go at him from day one and nitpicked on stuff Whelan was doing in training. He highlighted a game against Celtic where they were 2-0 down at halftime, when he came on as a sub: the game finished 2-0, but Stendal still had a go at him. The stuff that fits with Diggs246 comment on bullying is that Whelan was not told he was being left out of match squads, only finding out by players' group chat, and arrived in for training on the 27th to find he wasn't in either the match recovery or non-playing training groups. He mentions that he got five MotM awards in eight home games and accuses Hearts administrators of being very amateurish.
The tone is that he's surprised and hurt and feels he can do a better job elsewhere.
just had a bit of a read of the hearts message board.. whelan's departure thread has over 300 post so far...
Seems the view at best is he start Ok, tailed off as it became clear the team was pretty poor and his ability to impact it by really really trying was limited. New coach comes in, wants a more attacking style, decides to move Glenn on. What's really clear, and poorly understood by the hearts fans is that hearts have dealt with it pretty badly. Glenn's interview seems to indicate that the new guy didn't really engage with him on the topic and "not part of the plans" equated to "not worth speaking to" which doesn't surprise me much for the football world at a lower level when no relationships exist. Stender doesn't seem like the kind of guy who will end up at man city in 3 years time. Christophe Berra shown the door as well in much the same way and he's been a hearts man thru and thru for years. (even when I used to live in scotland)
what it does highlight is that in a poor side Glenn is not able to change the game/make things much better. he'll need game time to contribute to any irish fixtures, i suspect he'll rock up in league 1, lower championship but I hope he's match fit....
James McCarthy and Josh Cullen would be a great DM pairQuote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
Gets a big mention from manager Joey Barton for his contribution this year as Bristol Rovers earned promotion on goals scored on the final day after a 7-0 win (they needed to win by 5). 21 minutes into the final day they were 1-0 up and Northampton were 3-0 up, so they were seven goals behind! Rovers also made a sub in the fifteenth and the nineteenth minutes of injury time, so seems an eventful game.
Fourth promotion of his career, at the age of 38.
I read there was a mass pitch invasion when Bristol got the required number of goals, the ref took the teams off the pitch until order was restored, hence 20 minutes of injury time.
That seemed very unfair to me. It gave Rovers a clear advantage. I'm not sure if the club were censured over this, but they should be.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
The joys of football. Singled out for his contribution to promotion one week, and released on a free the next.
Does he have another season in him?
Played his final professional match today. Great servant to us.
Great servant to Ireland.
His goal Vs Italy one of our finest ever goals.
Would have been nice for him to finish his international career with that effort (that walloped off the bar) going in Vs Switzerland
One of the most underappreciated players we've probably ever had. Great servant over the years, and will likely go on to have a fine coaching career too.
Underappreciated? Not by himself, anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
https://www.tribalfootball.com/artic...parison-200002
A dire player.
A good servant and nothing bad to say about him really, but he had the misfortune of being a midfield mainstay in a period where our manager/managers didn't want us to have a pro-active ball-retaining midfield. Too many games passed him by through no fault of his own.
A dire post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yard of Pace
Another yard or two of pace would have brought him to that next level player.
I am sure he has made a very good living out of football = = Fair play to him.
Dire players don't make 277 Premier League appearances. We could really do with someone as bad as him right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yard of Pace
Dire Glenn Whelan 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCrsI__k36U
Dire Glenn Whelan 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OWV5omYkyQ
Dire Glenn Whelan 3
https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...n+best+moments
With 91 caps and an excellent club career - the dire Glenn Whelan sure fooled a lot of good football managers along the way.
good player who had a career 90% of academy players would bite your hand off for. good luck to him
We could use a player like him now. He became a scapegoat for the style we played under successive managers at times. Gave us a lot more than he got credit for. Good luck to him.
He performed a very specific role for us and he performed it well most of the time. He was limited but effective and never shirked his role or responsibilities. He suffered, i think, a little bit from being an ever-present player in teams where the managers had us set up to be uber-conservative - and as a result didn't get a lot of love from the terraces.
I did feel bad for him towards the end of his international career as his legs had clearly gone, and he was never the most mobile in the first place. He deserved more love than he got.
A rare interview with Whelan on the42 today
https://www.the42.ie/glenn-whelan-in...87686-Jun2023/
That about sums him up, I think.Quote:
In 2018, Pulis told The Irish Mail on Sunday that during their five years working together: “We tried to sign someone better.
“We always looked for an upgrade on Glenn, someone we thought was more mobile, technically better, quicker, stronger, but every year the bugger would confound you by playing better and better and get his place back.”
Even after Pulis’ departure as manager, this pattern continued for a period, and when Whelan finally was sold by Stoke, the club were promptly relegated the following season.
There was no need to agonise about his legs. He was one of our best performers in McCarthy's final campaign.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
I wasn't agonising at all to be fair but the guy had already "retired" from international football to preserve himself. He knew it himself before he made himself available for a few more run outs. He never let us down but there were moments in his last two campaigns where, on the turnover, he was beaten before the race had started.
Was a Good player similar to John Sheridan, with McCarthy he had a Good partnership in France , McCarthy coming and going like an engine he doing just like the wolf stuff in Pulp Fiction
I think we all wheelie liked him.
He was absolutely nothing like John Sheridan. As for the second half of the sentence....what?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bielsa´s irish