Trapattoni appointed Ireland coach - Confirmed

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14/02/2008, 9:42 AM
Ozymandias

great post seagull..thanks for that
14/02/2008, 9:48 AM
Seagull-4-life

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Originally Posted by Ozymandias

great post seagull..thanks for that

cheers mate but i had quoted that from someone else!!!
14/02/2008, 10:09 AM
Scram

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Originally Posted by Seagull-4-life

cheers mate but i had quoted that from someone else!!!

Yeah, don't mention it ;)

I had it as a new thread but the powers that be reckoned it was undeserving. Even thought his thread is a complete mess with offshoots in all directions. I think it is now about Brian Kerr !!
14/02/2008, 11:27 AM
NeilMcD

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Originally Posted by macdermesser

I'm sure he'll lose sleep over that Neil.

He was asked for an opinion and he gave it. At least he is honest enough to give an opinion not like the bland sound bites that come from others in the profession.

IMHO the man is a legend of Irish football and is always to be seen on away trips .. not like some other ex-Irish managers and players who never go to another game after they finish their Ireland careers.

He deserves more respect even if you don't agree with his opinion

I agree with you on that and to me he is a proper footballing person in the best way however I feel his time with Ireland seniors has left him bitter towards the FAI etc and it clouds his opinions on issues such as this.

There were rumblings last year of some Pats fans who were not too happy with him last year but I suppose that is the way with football too.
14/02/2008, 11:38 AM
Philly

Assistant confirmed....

http://www.channel4.com/sport/footba...ia/feb13q.html

Tardelli has loads of experience; him and Trap will make a great team!

Also worth a read; Lippi thinks it's a good appointment but a big, big challenge:
http://www.channel4.com/sport/footba...ia/feb13o.html
14/02/2008, 12:42 PM
Drumcondra 69er

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Originally Posted by Philly

http://www.channel4.com/sport/footba...ia/feb13q.html

Tardelli has loads of experience; him and Trap will make a great team!

Also worth a read; Lippi thinks it's a good appointment but a big, big challenge:
http://www.channel4.com/sport/footba...ia/feb13o.html

Don't think Robbie will be too happy with that, never gave him a chance at Inter after Lippi was sacked, didn't fancy him at all....
14/02/2008, 12:43 PM
Dr. Ogba

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Originally Posted by Philly

http://www.channel4.com/sport/footba...ia/feb13q.html

Tardelli has loads of experience; him and Trap will make a great team!

Also worth a read; Lippi thinks it's a good appointment but a big, big challenge:
http://www.channel4.com/sport/footba...ia/feb13o.html

funny that Tardelli was the man that shipped Robbie Keane out of Inter after Lippi was sacked, strange how these things work out...
14/02/2008, 12:46 PM
Wolfie

Might keep Robbie on his toes and with a point to prove. Not a bad thing.
14/02/2008, 1:31 PM
Armando

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

More from Dolan: http://eleven-a-side.com/boysingreen...p?newsid=31040

Kerr's been fairly negative in his comments for a while now, read some of his articles in the Irish Times about Stan's games, even the wins over Wales and Slovakia and it's hard to sympathise with him.

After the Wales game, I was walking through Croke Park to leave with the lads I went to the game with, Kerr was actually standing beside one of us. So he turns to Kerr and asks "well, what did you think of that Mr Kerr", "thought it was a load of sh!te" was his response. I resisted the urge to point out Stan had just beaten a team ranked far higher than any win he achieved in a competitive game.

But, it was a load of ****e..one of the worst ireland games i have ever been to. So, at least he's honest.
14/02/2008, 1:53 PM
cavan_fan

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Originally Posted by NeilMcD

http://www.setanta.com/en/Sport/News...ritain-locale/

Kerr has gone down in my estimation in recent months. I supported him right to the end when he was Ireland manager and felt that he should have had his contract extended and that he was undermined by Delaney and as a result I think he has been bitter since and cannot give credit where credit is due.

Absolutely, I think he is mostly bitter that after the Ireland job he has had no great demand for his services. According to his analysis we needed someone who had had success at International level with limited resources and was Irish. Surprised he didnt say it didnt matter if the success was at underage level!.
14/02/2008, 2:49 PM
tetsujin1979

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Originally Posted by Armando

But, it was a load of ****e..one of the worst ireland games i have ever been to. So, at least he's honest.

After the way he was treated by the press in the latter days of his stewardship, I did think he would go easier on Staunton, but he was as bad as the rest of them, which lowered my opinion of him.
I'm not saying Stan didn't deserve criticism, but did think Kerr would be more measured in his comments.
14/02/2008, 3:10 PM
jmurphyc

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

More from Dolan: [url]http://eleven-a-side.

In the end of the article Dolan mentions that Trap not being at the announcement shows that he's just looking for one last payday. I completely disagree with this. IMO it shows that he's completely professional and doesn't want to take time off from his current job, one that he is currently being paid for. Perhaps he is a bit too old and possibly past it, but I seriously doubt a man with Trapattoni's professionalism would ever just be looking for one last payday.

In regards to Kerr, I really don't think he's ****ed at this appointment. I'm sure he was at Staunton's (and who'd blame him) but I think he's just trying to be objective. Trapattoni is not a guarenteed success and he does have one blotch on his CV - the Italy job - but we were never going to be able to get a perfect candidate.
14/02/2008, 3:30 PM
NeilMcD

I have said this before, Nobody can be ojbective about a matter of opinion it is impossible. Especially then when they have worked for the organisation in the same role that they are commenting on. He is being subjective and offering his opinion which is fair enough and he is concentrating on the valid concerns which is fair enough but I think to be fair and balanced he should spend as much time if not more on the benefits and strong points of Trappatoni. He did not he highlighted the concerns, and as a result it comes across as bitter especially when you add to it his previous comments.

However I was and am a supporter of Kerr and his type that invest time and money in Irish football and it should not be forgotton what he did for Pats and the underage set up in Ireland.
14/02/2008, 3:34 PM
jmurphyc

I just read Humphries articles in the Times. I actually used to like his writing when I first started reading them, but now he really does seem to be very bitter. From the sentiment of his articles, he takes as many jabs at the FAI as he could and he almost seems to be disappointed that we got our act together and appointed an excellent coach. I wish he'd **** off and just write about sports that he likes.
14/02/2008, 3:37 PM
NeilMcD

I just read that article now and I see a totally different slant. If anything he has a slight dig at his fellow journalists for concentrating on the Denis O Brien issue and the fact that most of them were ****ed off that it was a professional appointment done in a proper manner. In the article he praises the FAI for a job well done. He points out that JP Mc Manus gives money to Limerick and nobody bats an eyelid.

Maybe give the article another read because I feel you may have missed his point. But I could be wrong here.
14/02/2008, 3:49 PM
jebus

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Originally Posted by NeilMcD

In the article he praises the FAI for a job well done. He points out that JP Mc Manus gives money to Limerick and nobody bats an eyelid.

That batted my eyelid alright, JP won't touch Limerick FC/37 with a barge pole, let alone give us money. There's O'Briens first lie for you lot.

Anyway just showed a female co-worker a picture of Trappatoni and her response was, 'it's no wonder he won't be living over here, the cold would kill him off at his age' :D
14/02/2008, 3:57 PM
NeilMcD

Well she is an ignorant girl cause I don't think we get the same level of coldness as they do in Salzburg or Milan so it shows what she knows.

Also JP Mc Manus is allowed to put money into the GAA and not put it into the LOI if he likes. Its a free world and he does not have to put money. The point is that there seems to be one rule for the GAA here and one rule for the FAI which is fair play for the GAA receiving money from Mc Manus but how dare the FAI recieve money from the FAI. It is terrible that it took a GAA journalist to point this out to his other journalists.

Oh by the way it was Tom Humphries that said that and not O Brien, so no lie there from O Brien.
14/02/2008, 4:01 PM
jebus

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Originally Posted by NeilMcD

Well she is an ignorant girl cause I don't think we get the same level of coldness as they do in Salzburg or Milan so it shows what she knows.

Then how the hell is she working alongside me here at Met Eireann!!!??? :)

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Originally Posted by NeilMcD

Also JP Mc Manus is allowed to put money into the GAA and not put it into the LOI if he likes. Its a free world and he does not have to put money. The point is that there seems to be one rule for the GAA here and one rule for the FAI which is fair play for the GAA receiving money from Mc Manus but how dare the FAI recieve money from the FAI. It is terrible that it took a GAA journalist to point this out to his other journalists.

One's amateur, the other's professional, even if it is hard to tell at times, there's the difference

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Originally Posted by NeilMcD

Oh by the way it was Tom Humphries that said that and not O Brien, so no lie there from O Brien.

Alright Tom Humphries is a lying scumbag instead of O'Brien :)
14/02/2008, 4:04 PM
DotTV

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Originally Posted by Dr. Ogba

funny that Tardelli was the man that shipped Robbie Keane out of Inter after Lippi was sacked, strange how these things work out...

Tardelli was an amazing player. This just keeps getting better.
I wonder will he keep on Mick Byrne for the hugs?
14/02/2008, 4:09 PM
NeilMcD

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Originally Posted by jebus

Then how the hell is she working alongside me here at Met Eireann!!!??? :)

One's amateur, the other's professional, even if it is hard to tell at times, there's the difference

Alright Tom Humphries is a lying scumbag instead of O'Brien :)

Well if anybody is prepared to say to me that we get get colder temperatures than Milan or Salzburg they are living in cloud cuckoo land.

Again its JP Mc Manus's money and he can do what he wants with it. We may wish for more people to invest in LOI but we dont have the right to demand it.

So lying scumbag now is that really an appropriate term for what Humphries said and I would reckon he was talking about the journalist fraternity rather than every human being on earth when he said nobody batted an eyelid. I would think your comments are a bit OTT here.

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