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Well yeah, but what's yer point, caller?
I think I owe Danny an apology here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gather round
No, GR does. But on reflection, we should all pass...
Not that he was on the radar but...
Manchester United's Paddy McNair in Northern Ireland squad
Curry yoghurt all over our faces!
Ah he has to turn up and play first. Which he will. Has anyone seen him play for United? Any better than what we have?
He has done well but I can't help but feel he's in the right place at the right time. There is any one of a number of young CBs at lesser clubs, including some of our young crop, who could probably do as good a job if the stars lined up the same way as McNair's have. John Egan perhaps, maybe Tommy Hoban or Duffy.
Duffy must have been kicking himself looking at Alcaraz limping off on Saturday. Then again, he'll see more football at Blackburn than he ever would have with Everton.
Blackburn look well placed to finish in or around the playoffs, as opposed to Yeovil last season; and he's probably their #1 CB, as opposed to #5 CB at Everton, so it could be worse.
It's a cliche but Blackburn are a PL
Club playing in the Championship, as they say about Leeds; granted they don't have a PL standard stadium or support base.
So how the fcuk does that make them a PL club ?
ryan mcconnell is at utd in mcnairs age group as a centre half. mcnair as i understand it went there as attacking midfielderQuote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Burnley are not set up to be a Premier League club. Most of their fans don't expect them to remain there. Blackburn are set up to be a Premier League club. Most of their fans would give them a good chance of remaining there, if they can achieve promotion within the next year or two, which is a realistic target.
Derby are a yo-yo team. West Brom are/were a yo-yo team. Blackburn were an established Premier League club for many years. They have been in the Championship for just two seasons, finishing 8th last season.
People often refer to Leeds as a PL standard club because of their stadium, fanbase, tradition and club ethos.
More than anything, it's an expression. Don't read it so literally.
How are Derby any more of a yo-yo team than Blackburn? They've both been relegated twice since the inception of the PL. Granted Blackburn have had a few extra seasons there, due in no small part to Jack Walker's funds keeping them ticking over for many years.
Ah, come on. Blackburn have been outside the Premier League for, what, three seasons out of 23? They relegation comparison means nothing.
They won it as well. That surely counts for summat.
McNair is indeed benefitting from circumstances (Ferguson not replacing Ferdinand and Vidic with similar quality, Jones and Evans injury prone, Rojo diving into rash challenges), but he's starting at ManU basically because their coaches and scouts judge him better than the others in their junior teams, or equivalents elsewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
He's in the NI squad to cover for and ultimately replace Aaron Hughes. 450 EPL games and nine qualifying series, but he and McAuley are pushing 35.
The more experienced Ryan McGivern is more likely to play in Romania. A journeyman in club football but has stepped up against Greece and the other bigger teams internationally.
http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/z...psae611c2a.jpg
PS doesn't Blackburn's (cliched) status depend on them going up this year, before the 'parachute' payment ends? As TOWK says, they can't compete with Leeds or other big-city clubs for support base etc.
You've only posted that 'cartoon' 300 times before DG. Not very 'PC' in light of your impending political 'career'...
:rolleyes:
Pity he never got the chance to play with Allen McKnight...Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
I hear Gregory was wasting further time shamelessly defending his ignorance and bigotry on the Nolan Show today. Of course, the embarrassing thing for him is that his own surname is of Gaelic origin and even Edward Carson along a fifth of the dwellers on the loyal Shankhill Road spoke Irish a hundred years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
Anyway, enough about Campbell... To make that somewhat relevant, here was a pre-cup final piece by McDonnell discussing the differing career paths of Gregory's footballing nemesis, James McClean, and McClean's former NI room-mate and current Derry City player, Philip Lowry: http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-30701291.html ;)
Lowry had a bit to say on the eligibility issue...
The use of "loophole" within the squared brackets was McDonnell's; not mine!Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel McDonnell
Dwelling on the distant past again Danny? It's much more likely to be Polish now, whether in the Ulice Stary Kosciol or NI generally.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Seemsa your mate Greggy called Dail Eireann yesterday in an effort to soothe the row.
GC: Hello, can I talk to the Speaker of Parliament please? It's very important.
Operator: Ceann comhairle?
GC: OK, but as I say it is rather urgent.
All's I'm saying is that he's mocking/demonstrating an embarrassing ignorance of his own Gaelic heritage. Unionists/Protestants shouldn't feel threatened or alienated by use of the Irish language. If it was fine for Protestants and Unionists to use/tolerate it in the past, why should it be any different now? If Sinn Féin also happen or want to use or promote awareness of the language on a regular basis (along with thousands of others throughout Ireland and around the world who have absolutely nothing to do with Irish republicanism), that's their call. It's a tongue native to the island. Gregory, on the other hand, is free to speak solely in English or Ulster-Scots if he so desires and nobody would have an issue with it. In fact, I'd be genuinely impressed if he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gather round
I did enjoy the gag, by the way. It's very good. But tread carefully; I might add, that's your heritage too! ;)
Not if you know GR!
:rolleyes:
He may deny in vain like Gregory all he wants. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
Tbf to GR, he would eat curried yoghurt. Definitely.
And pretty much anything else that was going. One thing which he wouldn't discriminate about!
:)
In terms of being a 'PL club', it means little. In terms of being a yo-yo club, it means everything, which is what I was referring to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
I doubt anyone feels threatened by it. Personally, I like hearing it spoken in the shops or on the Carnmoney omnibus. As I do hearing Welsh in the English border towns near where I live.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny Invincible
Disngenuous. SF's use of the language in Stormont debates is a stunt, not a serious effort to promote it. Were it the latter, surely they would try to separate it from knockabout party politics . Instead of continuing a situation where most Unionists regard it with bored indifference at best.Quote:
If Sinn Féin also happen or want to use or promote awareness of the language on a regular basis (along with thousands of others throughout Ireland and around the world who have absolutely nothing to do with Irish republicanism), that's their call. It's a tongue native to the island
My pleasure. Remember, a strong heritage can always take a bit of gentle self-mockery ;)Quote:
I did enjoy the gag, by the way. It's very good. But tread carefully; I might add, that's your heritage too!
Ha ha, if only!
PS I was at a vegan food festival last week and had a curried spinach pie for lunch. A Jamaican speciality, it was delicious.
So only curried yoghurt missing...
And you're not a vegan!
Nor were many of the other customers or even some of the stallholders like me. It's like supporting the Irish Republic, all are welcome. Although we were asked not to sell any goods made from animal products.
?? :confused:
Certainly, along with the wish to use the language more, I'm sure there's an element of mild incitement there too, but if the language had been given the formal support and protection it was promised under the Good Friday and St. Andrew's Agreements, there might be less feeling of need for so many reminders as Gaeilge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gather round
If only they did regard it with bored indifference, maybe they could let those interested in it get on with promoting it. It would seem to me that the DUP regard the language with open hostility.
Of course, but that's what the DUP are all about!
That is indeed his speciality. And many of them!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gather round
Sky, I mean 'Fox', 'news' sh*t-stirring....
http://www.joe.ie/football/pic-this-...morning/474910
Perhaps they have to have a look at numerous other sports teams...rugby and cricket are far worse! Including those in their own back yard.
Fwiw, we have 10 players in the squad born outside Ireland, Scotland have 7 or 8 born outside Scotland.
We have 3 players who rejected Scotland outright, the Scots have none of "ours".
We are just better in every way.
Am in work and the graphic is blocked, but what's supposed to be the problem? We operate within the rules just like every other association.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
Wow. That graphic is pretty silly on their part. The two things I take umbrage with are the references to 'Northern Ireland' being the country of birth of two of our players (McClean and Gibson) and the motives behind doing it at all (clearly just seeking to incite the Irish).
The inference re Northern Ireland is either cheeky or ignorant but, given the historical gravity, neither is really acceptable. We just saw McClean write a letter the other day speaking about his identification as Irish, and we are all sufficiently aware of his utter right to do so.
As regards the two Scottish-born players in our squad, they clearly identify as being Irish. As a result, being born in Scotland is not really relevant to the discussion (I think this is the crux of one of DI's points i.e. identification supersedes birthplace, if I'm correct) because they never made themselves available to Scotland.
And what of England's current great white hope, Raheem Sterling, who was born in Jamaica? I doubt Sky mention that inconvenient truth. I can't wait to see the scenes when they spontaneously combust when Rory McIlroy wins a medal for Ireland at the Olympics.
Plus numerous others who've played for their football teams, tennis, cycled plus the mention in my earlier post.
I guess the information in that graphic is all completely accurate, aside from the NI reference. That's what irks me. That is bordering on propaganda that is.
Tbf, it contains a list of 3 non-countries, one of which will never be, purely on economic grounds.