Eligibility Rules, Okay

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Originally Posted by gastric

Unfortunately, NB you don't have the ability to accept this reality and your ideas regarding U19s and international representation is a ruse to cover over the anger and embarrassment that this brings to NI football. I hope players continue to represent NI at youth levels and then join us as is their democratic.

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My desire is to protect and progress the best interests of the Irish Football Association's representative sides, going forward, mindful and respecting of eligibility rules.

If you think encouraging and facilitating players with a dream of representing the FAI to do so before they wear a Northern Ireland shirt is 'unfortunate', then it is you who has problems in progressing.

I support all players committed to the Northern Ireland cause - where they put their X in elections is of absolutely no interest to me when I go to watch them perform.

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Originally Posted by gastric

I have to confess to a big mistake in the above post where I typed in FAI whem I meant IFA.

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anybody who follows this thread knows you meant the IFA, however can I kndly suggest to read Danny excellent blog before posting ill informed nonescense. to paraphase Bill Clinton 'Its your nationailty stupid'

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

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We'll apart from the bit of sectarianism and vandalisation, I thought they were great.

I got a text earlier to tell me 20 seats were wrecked or damaged.

Fair play to the Derry Chairman - he doesn't miss the door.

http://www.derryjournal.com/sport/fo...lism-1-3608116

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Ye's get the cheque this time? To quote yourself, that 'constitutes progress' no?

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Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton

Ye's get the cheque this time? To quote yourself, that 'constitutes progress' no?

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We got a cheque from Derry City for the damaged seats yesterday, I think.

Linfield had initially told Derry City that they would take for the damages out of ticket money owing to Derry for the Brandywell match, but the Derry City Chairman wanted to deal with the damages issue separately.

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

Marty and his Provo mate McCartney seemed to enjoy the hospitality of the Linfield Management Committie in the Directors Box on Monday night.

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To be fair they wouldn't be the first 'terrorists' in there. :eek:
Plenty must have passed through there over the years.

And the more extreme fringes of Unionism have been welcome at Solitude and other nationalist arena for many years, at least in a sporting context, no?

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

I voted to put Marty and his Provo mates into power, long before 'lazarous' firebrand Ian Paisley would entertain that notion.

I think that welcoming members of an organisation that tried to murder people attending a match at Windsor Park into the Directors Box at Windsor Park constitutes progress.

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You voted for Sinn Fein? :rolleyes: If so, am bemused, but credit where it's due.

Anyway, the Irish people in the last year demonstrably welcomed a head of state whose past representatives, did actually murder innocent civilians in our national stadium less than a century ago.
And received also their sports teams (Credit to them for turning up) over the course of the 'Troubles', unlike some.

So good to see both sides embracing this.

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

The reality of making a shared future happen is going to be very difficult for some Irish Republicans too.

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Agreed.
But they're in a fairly tiny minority.
And would argue the evidence is it's not that side, in general, which doesn't want to 'share'.

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

Your Unionism certainly proves that Unionism encompasses a broad spectrum of views.

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The one thing you got wrong. Nationalism is not Unionism! Being in favour of a united Ireland is not unionist. Unless of course you want to call people like yourself 'British nationalists'...

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Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

The one thing you got wrong. Nationalism is not Unionism! Being in favour of a united Ireland is not unionist. Unless of course you want to call people like yourself 'British nationalists'...

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I didn't get it "wrong" - you have got it wrong...again.

The post was directed at gastric, who had previously stated he did not support a United Ireland politically.

This is the position of Unionism.

Please try and read before you wade in and embarrass yourself.

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Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

Solitude and other nationalist arena'

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As Mr Parker will confirm, Solitude is not a "nationalist arena"....it's a football ground.

They don't play GAA at Solitude.

You seem to be under the, wrong, impression that Cliftonville Football Club are some sort of 'Nationalist' Institution.

Many Cliftonville fans would find that notion offensive.

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Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

You voted for Sinn Fein?

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How on earth did you arrive at asking me such a preposterous question from anything that I've posted?

Random, incoherent, ramblings from you...again.

Er, initially I was being 'tongue in cheek' about unionists. The bitterest pill and all that.

As for Cliftonville, I'll trust the judgement of their fans I've met on various Ireland trips. Similarly they too would be offended if they were anything other than you suggested. Not to mention contradicting (yet again) your own post(#3268) about their flags.

Finally the last point again refers to your post (#3271) when you, er, suggested exactly that...
:rolleyes:

If anyone's posting "Random, incoherent ramblings", it's not me!

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Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

Er, initially I was being 'tongue in cheek' about unionists. The bitterest pill and all that.

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Er, what?

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Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

As for Cliftonville, I'll trust the judgement of their fans I've met on various Ireland trips. Similarly they too would be offended if they were anything other than you suggested. Not to mention contradicting (yet again) your own post(#3268) about their flags

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Solitude is not a "nationalist arena".

We'll see if any Cliftonville supporting posters support your ridiculous assertion that it is.

Nice bit of back-pedalling, as ever...
;)

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Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

Finally the last point again refers to your post (#3271) when you, er, suggested exactly that...
:rolleyes:

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I'll give you a pardon on the grounds of your, increasingly evident, ignorance.

I voted "YES" in the Good Friday Agreement referendum.

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Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

Nice bit of back-pedalling, as ever...
;)

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Now, now - stop boasting.

A side issue NB, if the same GFA referendum was held next week, would you still vote yes, knowing all that has transpired (if you know what i mean)?

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Originally Posted by geysir

A side issue NB, if the same GFA referendum was held next week, would you still vote yes, knowing all that has transpired (if you know what i mean)?

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I thought long and hard about it then geysir...it wasn't an easy decision to make on a number of levels.

It's fair to say I voted "YES" then with a fair amount of trepidation.

If there was a referendum next week, I would vote "YES" with absolute certainty that it's the right thing to do.

Northern Ireland is a much better place than it was in 1998.

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Originally Posted by Newryrep

anybody who follows this thread knows you meant the IFA, however can I kndly suggest to read Danny excellent blog before posting ill informed nonescense. to paraphase Bill Clinton 'Its your nationailty stupid'

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Not sure what your point is, and the spelling mistakes don't help!

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Originally Posted by gastric

Not sure what your point is

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You should heed Newryrep's excellent advice, without getting too hung up about spelling mistakes.

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

I didn't get it "wrong" - you have got it wrong...again.

The post was directed at gastric, who had previously stated he did not support a United Ireland politically.

This is the position of Unionism.

Please try and read before you wade in and embarrass yourself.

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So now I am a Unionist. Love it!

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Originally Posted by gastric

So now I am a Unionist. Love it!

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Good man gastric.