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06/03/2010, 12:08 AM
WexCar

Ok then Yappy, As far as the Irish team is concerned who do we replace Keane with?

Stokes.....No
Long.................No
Best...........No
Morisson......No
Doyle as a lone striker......No

Nobody is saying he is the perfect striker, in reality he is the best forward that Ireland has ever produced and at the moment there is no player out there that can repalce him on the Irish team.

NO PLAYER TAKES ALL THEIR CHANCES, we can only judge him on him and what he has achieved in an Irish shirt.
You can say he doesn't score against the big teams, the important games, but ask urself which players score in the majority of their big & important games?
06/03/2010, 12:13 AM
gustavo

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Originally Posted by yapster

only the easy chances that are vital owls

So a striker scores more of the easy chances than the difficult ones

This is a shocking revelation thanks for bringing it to the forum's attention
06/03/2010, 4:57 AM
SilkCut

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Originally Posted by WexCar

You can say he doesn't score against the big teams, the important games, but ask urself which players score in the majority of their big & important games?

No you Fu3king well can't, I am not Robbies biggest fan but that notion has been shot down so many times on here that no one should ever be allowed mention it again.
He has scored against Yugoslavia, Netherlands, France and Italy in qualifiers, Germany and Spain in a World Cup, Czech Rep. (twice), Denmark (3), Netherlands (again) Croatia and Sweden in friendlies (anyone who says those teams are not bigger than us is dreaming) also he has scored some important qualifier goals (when the chips were down) against teams who are at least as good as us or were at the time. Georgia (3) Wales, Isreal and 3 against Cyprus. He has also scored in countless important club games down the years inc. League cup final and champions league.
The notion that he doesn't score against big teams or in big games is a notion held only by IDIOTS, the tiniest bit of research will prove them wrong.
06/03/2010, 5:17 AM
SkStu

well said Silkcut - my advice though, dont let yapster and his crap get you so wound up. Best left ignored.
06/03/2010, 6:22 AM
irishfan86

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Originally Posted by SilkCut

He has also scored in countless important club games down the years inc. League cup final and champions league.

I'm a big Robbie fan, and he certainly has scored against the big teams for us, but he did not score in the league cup final (Berbatov and Woodgate scored the two goals).

To the best of my knowledge, Keane never scored a meaningful Champions League goal either (group stage only).
06/03/2010, 6:11 PM
yapster

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Originally Posted by WexCar

Ok then Yappy, As far as the Irish team is concerned who do we replace Keane with?

Stokes.....No
Long.................No
Best...........No
Morisson......No
Doyle as a lone striker......No

Nobody is saying he is the perfect striker, in reality he is the best forward that Ireland has ever produced and at the moment there is no player out there that can repalce him on the Irish team.

NO PLAYER TAKES ALL THEIR CHANCES, we can only judge him on him and what he has achieved in an Irish shirt.
You can say he doesn't score against the big teams, the important games, but ask urself which players score in the majority of their big & important games?

I'm not and have never said that he should be dropped and he is the best striker Irelands got at the moment, all I'm saying is he misses too many easy chances for my liking and a vital one in Paris.
06/03/2010, 6:13 PM
yapster

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Originally Posted by gustavo

So a striker scores more of the easy chances than the difficult ones

This is a shocking revelation thanks for bringing it to the forum's attention

Yes if he is a good striker. In football you do the simple things well.
07/03/2010, 1:58 PM
Serb

A couple of goals for Robbie in the Celtic game today. BBC says:

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And now we have a goal, a cracker at that. Morten Rasmussen plays a clever hooked pass to Robbie Keane and the striker slides the ball past the advancing Olejnik into the bottom corner.

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Celtic double their lead with 11 minutes remaining. The razor-sharp Robbie Keane reacts well to pounce on a quick Marc Crosas free-kick and nick the ball past Robert Olejnik into the net.
07/03/2010, 8:27 PM
yapster

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Originally Posted by Serb

A couple of goals for Robbie in the Celtic game today. BBC says:

And so he should in a bad league.
07/03/2010, 11:37 PM
SilkCut

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Originally Posted by irishfan86

I'm a big Robbie fan, and he certainly has scored against the big teams for us, but he did not score in the league cup final (Berbatov and Woodgate scored the two goals).

To the best of my knowledge, Keane never scored a meaningful Champions League goal either (group stage only).

My apologies you are absolutely correct he didn't score in the final, perhaps I let my emotion run away with itself!!! He scored twice for Liverpool in the group stages of the champions league, this is the highest stage of club football and he was under intense scrutiny at the time, they were massive goals.
08/03/2010, 12:03 PM
Drumcondra 69er

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Originally Posted by SilkCut

My apologies you are absolutely correct he didn't score in the final, perhaps I let my emotion run away with itself!!! He scored twice for Liverpool in the group stages of the champions league, this is the highest stage of club football and he was under intense scrutiny at the time, they were massive goals.

He also missed a sitter in that game by tring to be too flash which is probably what really did for him at Liverpool seeing as they only wound up drawing if memory serves. That's Robbie.

But, as pointed out he's our best striker ever by a street and the criticism here is laughable. Strikers miss chances, always have, always will. There's parts of his game that irritate (drops too deep for my liking when he's not involved for example) but I dread to think where our goals would come from without him.
08/03/2010, 4:44 PM
Serb

For all the sh�te that Robbie gets, you can't help but feel that the people criticising him will only appreciate his contribution after he's gone. Take our last squad for example:

Robbie Keane. 98 caps. 41 goals.
Every single other player combined. 562 caps. 37 goals.

It's a ratio of 6:1 in Robbies favour.
08/03/2010, 4:58 PM
jbyrne

its the good old Irish trait of knocking our own successful people. robbie has been a brilliant servant to our country even playing v albania a few days after his dad passed away. his goal scoring record is twice our next highest scorer yet clueless "fans" continue to knock him. players like daryl murphy and stephen elliot have been put forward as better options than him over the years..... hillarious really
08/03/2010, 11:17 PM
yapster

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Originally Posted by jbyrne

its the good old Irish trait of knocking our own successful people. robbie has been a brilliant servant to our country even playing v albania a few days after his dad passed away. his goal scoring record is twice our next highest scorer yet clueless "fans" continue to knock him. players like daryl murphy and stephen elliot have been put forward as better options than him over the years..... hillarious really

Yes of course Robbie has been Irelands best striker which wouldn't be hard when you think about what came before him. No one can doubt his committment to Ireland.
09/03/2010, 1:43 AM
Nedser

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Originally Posted by irishfan86

To the best of my knowledge, Keane never scored a meaningful Champions League goal either (group stage only).

Has he ever played a Champions League game outside of the groups stages? I don't think he has. AFAIK, he only ever played in the CL for Lvierpool, and they sold him before the knock-out stages started.

It's also pretty hard to argue that Liverpool's only goal in 1-1 draw away to Atletico Madrid wasn't meaningful. And his other CL goal for Liverpool put them 2-0 up against PSV in a game they went on to win. Ok, so that's not going to make a list of most crucial goals in history,but it's a bit unfair to suggest it was meaningless.
09/03/2010, 3:07 AM
Colbert Report

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Originally Posted by Nedser

Has he ever played a Champions League game outside of the groups stages? I don't think he has. AFAIK, he only ever played in the CL for Lvierpool, and they sold him before the knock-out stages started.

It's also pretty hard to argue that Liverpool's only goal in 1-1 draw away to Atletico Madrid wasn't meaningful. And his other CL goal for Liverpool put them 2-0 up against PSV in a game they went on to win. Ok, so that's not going to make a list of most crucial goals in history,but it's a bit unfair to suggest it was meaningless.

Didn't Leeds get to the CL semi-finals back in 2001? Wasn't he on that team?
09/03/2010, 6:37 AM
endabob1

No he was cup tied because he had played with Inter in the qualifying rounds
13/03/2010, 12:41 PM
christo

Nice goal against Kilmarnock there from Keane
13/03/2010, 12:46 PM
Razors left peg

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Originally Posted by christo

Nice goal against Kilmarnock there from Keane

his first touch was absolutely world class
13/03/2010, 1:13 PM
EastTerracer

No matter the standard of the opposition (and it is admittedly poor) it is great to see Robbie scoring regularly for Celtic. He took his hat-trick well today (although one was a tap-in). He has made the most of his loan spell at Celtic and should have put himself in a good position to either return to Spurs or get a move to another Premiership club next season.

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