Darron Gibson

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Originally Posted by Razors left peg

I rated him fairly highly until the Champions league final where he didnt even seem like he wanted to try

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I wouldn't judge him on one match where United were completely outplayed in every department. Don't think that system suited him much either and he got little or no support from Giggs or Carrick. I'm sure he was trying (seeing as it was the biggest match he's ever started) but sometimes players can look very flat when things are going wrong. Even Roy Keane had a few poor outings for United when they were completely outplayed by the likes of Redondo, Zidane, Effenburg, Davids at the peak of their powers.

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Originally Posted by Razors left peg

I rated him fairly highly until the Champions league final where he didnt even seem like he wanted to try

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What?


you rated him fairly but after 1 game you dont anymore!

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Originally Posted by back of the net

What?


you rated him fairly but after 1 game you dont anymore!

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Im saying that game gave me doubts about him, didnt like his attitude in the game

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Originally Posted by Razors left peg

Im saying that game gave me doubts about him, didnt like his attitude in the game

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Didn't notice anything off about his attitude to be honest. Have only seen the game once. In general I have always thought he's an all action, very committed player. He really p!sses me off with his brandishing of imaginery yellow cards though, he'd want to sort that out.

Gibson has a better chance of selection I think and with injuries could play a lot more games, but he'll have to impress. He's still behind Carrick, Hargreaves, Anderson, Fletcher, Scholes and Giggs though (probably in that order).

Getting dangerously near the famous 1,000 posts Razor, the thousand club members generate far more respect I feel ;)

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Originally Posted by DeLorean

Didn't notice anything off about his attitude to be honest. Have only seen the game once. In general I have always thought he's an all action, very committed player. He really p!sses me off with his brandishing of imaginery yellow cards though, he'd want to sort that out.

Gibson has a better chance of selection I think and with injuries could play a lot more games, but he'll have to impress. He's still behind Carrick, Hargreaves, Anderson, Fletcher, Scholes and Giggs though (probably in that order).

Getting dangerously near the famous 1,000 posts Razor, the thousand club members generate far more respect I feel ;)

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Maybe Im being a bit harsh on Anderson, but I do remember shouting at the TV alot at him in the final, but he is young so maybe the occasion got to him.
I better come up with something very profound for my 1000th post so :)

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Originally Posted by Razors left peg

Maybe Im being a bit harsh on Anderson, but I do remember shouting at the TV alot at him in the final, but he is young so maybe the occasion got to him.
I better come up with something very profound for my 1000th post so :)

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Anderson is quality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW4o0FL5IXg

Just said id throw up his goal vs Hull.

Just watched Fergie's interview after United's 3-2 win against a Malaysian XI

He was extremely positive regarding Gibson, who set up two of United's goals. He played a quality through ball for Michael Owen's winner as you can see in the link.

http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/2981807/

He played out on the right wing for the first half in a strong united team then was moved in to the centre for the second half. Fergie said he was very pleased with his performance and stressed the value of versatility.

He commented that Gibson takes up great positions but that one thing he needs to learn is how to capitalise on them. Fair assessment i'd say.

I think Fergie really considers him as a genuine 1st team squad member now. I'm pretty optimistic about his prospects this season. If he fails it won't be from lack of opportunities.

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Originally Posted by DeLorean

I wouldn't judge him on one match where United were completely outplayed in every department. Don't think that system suited him much either and he got little or no support from Giggs or Carrick. I'm sure he was trying (seeing as it was the biggest match he's ever started) but sometimes players can look very flat when things are going wrong. Even Roy Keane had a few poor outings for United when they were completely outplayed by the likes of Redondo, Zidane, Effenburg, Davids at the peak of their powers.

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keane was never beaten or outplayed by effenburg or davids in any game.

3 irish lads playing on what could potentially be UTDs first eleven, a pity all 3 didnt play for ROI! :D When was the last time utd had 3 irish lads starting in a league game?

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

3 irish lads playing on what could potentially be UTDs first eleven, a pity all 3 didnt play for ROI! :D When was the last time utd had 3 irish lads starting in a league game?

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Possibly when Miller, Carroll, Keane and O'Shea were there a few seasons ago.

Well they're Northern Irish. I was up in Belfast for first time and its as foreign as any place I've been to. Altho were Gibson is from doesnt feel it so much IMO

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Originally Posted by irishultra

Well they're Northern Irish. I was up in Belfast for first time and its as foreign as any place I've been to. Altho were Gibson is from doesnt feel it so much IMO

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Ireland is Ireland. Belfast is just sh1te. ;)

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Originally Posted by irishultra

Well they're Northern Irish. I was up in Belfast for first time and its as foreign as any place I've been to. Altho were Gibson is from doesnt feel it so much IMO

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I agree with you, different world in my opinion and feel no connection to the place, but anyways thats a completely different topic.

Ya great to see the lad doing well, only saw the highlight but he figured in most of the good united did, great ball for the owen goal. Fingers crossed, obvious but this is a very big season for him.

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Originally Posted by irishultra

Well they're Northern Irish. I was up in Belfast for first time and its as foreign as any place I've been to. Altho were Gibson is from doesnt feel it so much IMO

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Having lived in both Belfast & Derry I can tell you that whilst it may feel foreign to you it certainly doesn't for the locals who consider themselves as Irish as you and I, obviously thats only in certain area's but its a fact all the same.

Apparently this was the greatest Irish 11 to have played for Man United taken from the book United Irishmen.

Gregg, Nichol, Irwin, Moran, McGrath, Dunne, McIlroy, Keane, Best, Stapleton and Whiteside

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Originally Posted by Wangball

Having lived in both Belfast & Derry I can tell you that whilst it may feel foreign to you it certainly doesn't for the locals who consider themselves as Irish as you and I, obviously thats only in certain area's but its a fact all the same

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The locals are unlikely to feel foreign in their own home town :)

All the locals in Belfast are Irish and therefore as Irish as you or he.

I enjoyed my time living in Dublin, as a student. But it was like being in a different country.

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

keane was never beaten or outplayed by effenburg or davids in any game.

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I'm a big a fan of Keane as the next man but Effenburg ran the show against United in their 2001 Quarter Final, especially in the 2nd Leg if memory serves. Davids was the best player on the pitch at OT in the First Leg of the 1999 Semi Final, particularly in the first half. I remember that quite vividly.

It's hardly a huge critism, I was just pointing out that sometimes even the great players come off second best.

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Originally Posted by Gather round

All the locals in Belfast are Irish and therefore as Irish as you or he.

I enjoyed my time living in Dublin, as a student. But it was like being in a different country.

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Very interesting GR. A very good friend of mine who is a DUP activist went to University in Liverpool and came saying the "mainland" was like a foreign country. Maybe we have more and less in common with each other than we ever imagined, if that doesn't sound too Irish?

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

keane was never beaten or outplayed by effenburg or davids in any game.

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That really isn't true. Effenburg gave him a torrid time when they played against each other.

Gibson got some more praise today after United's 2-0 win in the Far East. I'm starting to feel slightly more optimistic about him!

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Originally Posted by Fergie's Son

Gibson got some more praise today after United's 2-0 win in the Far East. I'm starting to feel slightly more optimistic about him!

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That's interesting cos he wasn't even named on the bench!;)

He came on for the last 20 minutes.

"Darron Gibson was one of those to impress, showing why Ferguson has handed him a new contract."

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/st...661904&cc=5739

He never came up on the subs list on MUTV anyway (or else I'm going blind).

Only watched the first half so didn't see how he got on. Would have keep viewing if I'd known he might get a run out.

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Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

That's interesting cos he wasn't even named on the bench!;)

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Came on in the 70th minute for Carrick:) You must be embarrassed!

He's on for the last 25 mins in the valencia game tonight, playing very well, hit two raspers so far, crossbar and another was a great save.

Dude has some shot on him :eek:

Would be nice to have a goalscoring midfielder- every time I watch him play he looks dangerous. Two great shots tonight alright.

Not sure if he'll get a chance at United, but I think he'll be a good Premiership/international player wherever he ends up.

Massive season for him. He has done well in preseason so I think he will be given chances to stake his place during the season so its up to him to take it when he gets it

I hope he and James McCarthy have great years and are in the fold if we go to SA.
It will take the sting away from Andy Reid being left out, Steven Reid being hurt, Finnan being washed up and SI being not here. The team needs some new blood with long term talent and maybe maybe maybe the Gibber is the man for that job.

Involved in most of the highlights from minute 3:16:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRCcP7lHlnM

Brilliant first pass to Valencia.

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Originally Posted by eirebhoy

Involved in most of the highlights from minute 3:16:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRCcP7lHlnM

Brilliant first pass to Valencia.

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Its funny, If Robbie Keane ever had a shot like Owen does around the first minute mark there, it would be made fun of for weeks....I mean I actually think I could have gotten it closer to the net. And I see he keeps doing that.
Also how is that 2nd goal not offsides?

gibsons being playing really well for united in pre season, and even last season whenever he got a chance in the team he didnt really look out of place. a couple of MOTM displays in the cups. a few goals too. i think he could be an important player for ireland in the upcoming qualifiers, he's much better than whelan imo

Had a reasonable game last night. Going forward he was excellent, and would have netted me 100 yoyo's if that crossbar shot had gone in. I wasn't too impressed with him defensively though. But still, looked good for most of the time he was one, far more impressive than whelan

Not exactly about Gibson but it certainly has an effect on him if true.

Brazilian midfielder Anderson has been told he can leave Manchester United after reacting badly to being omitted from the starting line-up for the Community Shield defeat by Chelsea.
Full story: Daily Mirror

I hear a rumour yesterday that Carrick may be offered back to Spurs in a deal to get Modric.

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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

I hear a rumour yesterday that Carrick may be offered back to Spurs in a deal to get Modric.

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Aye, some (unnamed) "source" put that one around the other day - even the Belfast Telegraph picked up on it:
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sp...-14467017.html
However, someone with a suspiciously-Croatian-sounding name was quick to deny it:
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...512567,00.html

Personally, I am not at all surprised that a story which might be expected to unsettle Tottenham's most influential playmaker should hit the papers when it has i.e. the very tail end of the transfer window, just over a fortnight before Spurs play (ahem) Man U in the League...:rolleyes:

P.S. I can't see Ferguson wanting to get rid of Carrick at this stage, considering the Glazers will not be prepared to make up the loss which would be incurred on his purchase and re-sale.

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Originally Posted by EalingGreen

I can't see Ferguson wanting to get rid of Carrick at this stage, considering the Glazers will not be prepared to make up the loss which would be incurred on his purchase and re-sale.

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They lost £11 million buying and selling Saha, plus they sold Ronaldo for €94 million, so I don't think that's a problem for such a transfer taking place.

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Originally Posted by Umberside

They lost £11 million buying and selling Saha, plus they sold Ronaldo for €94 million, so I don't think that's a problem for such a transfer taking place.

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There was no word of "Credit crunch" when they sold Saha. Moreoever, there was a reason why MU took such a "hit" on Saha - basically they feared he was crocked:
"Saha joined Everton for an undisclosed fee, signing a two-year 'pay-as-you-play' deal. Not match-fit at his time of signing, Saha offered to train without being paid whilst injured"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Saha
(Also the reason why only the perennially cash-strapped Everton took a chance on him)

As for the €94m received for Ronaldo (almost certainly in installments, btw), anyone who truly believes Ferguson when he claims that the only reason he has signed so few players is because he is "happy" with his existing squad, esp so soon after having been embarrassed by Barcelona, must also believe in the Tooth Fairy!

Remember, as Brian Clough always pointed out, it is not Managers who sign players, it is Chairmen. And as Chairmen go, Malcolm Glazer is just about the least interested in football, and the most interested in his personal wealth, of any to be found in charge of a major club.

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Originally Posted by EalingGreen

Remember, as Brian Clough always pointed out, it is not Managers who sign players, it is Chairmen. And as Chairmen go, Malcolm Glazer is just about the least interested in football, and the most interested in his personal wealth, of any to be found in charge of a major club.

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In the three years before he took over United won the Premier League and the FA Cup.

In his first three years as chairman they've won three Premier Leagues in a row, been European champions, World champions, won two League Cups and three Community Shields.

United have spent over £100 million on players over three years, the most spent over the same period in their whole history.

Darron Gibson: the new Tomas Hitzelsperger. All shot, not much else