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So bad, I thought it was Man Yoo v Monaghan Yoo :DQuote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
Shocking, brutal, boring!
Rangers had an easy ride in Cyprus too.
Everton were never going to make and impact on the Champions League!
There are too many English teams in it anyway.
they did well this is the 3rd best team in spain and a team that recently beat bara 3 nil so to loose 2-1 is pretty good for there first time in the champs league . there is allways next years hope fully we will get an easier draw next timeQuote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
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I think ITV negotiated the shortest European football contract in history, i.e. showing Everton's live European qualifiers. They shouldn't even be in the competition at all.
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normally i wouldnt attack a poster just the post but you are a fool , the qualifiers are only 2 games anyway because unlike liverpool we qualified using the actual rules not the one s that were changed to allow liverpool in .hence only playing 2 games not 6
I hope now anto that you appreciate the magnitude of Liverpool's achievement last season in winning the competition. You think you have done well by losing only 2-1 to the third best team in Spain, Liverpool beat the best of the best last season. Just proves what I have been saying all along - Liverpool operate on a different level to Everton, a class apart. You are second fiddle and always will be :D . Also shows up your logic that Everton could win the CL this year, just because you finished above us in the prem and we won the CL, as ridiculous in the extreme ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by anto1208
You're lucky it was only 2 games. Everton would damage the quality of the competition if they made the group stages, with their "kick lumps out of the opposition, and fire the ball up to Big Dunc" tactics. :D Everton are not tactically or physically competent to play UEFA Cup football, never mind CL football. A pub side playing primitive football is fine against Bolton and Wigan, but you need a bit more tactical nous when playing against any half-decent European side.Quote:
Originally Posted by anto1208
Everton should not be in the competition. They're there by default. They are also the first English side to lose a CL qualifier at home. Says it all really.
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but it will be hard for everton because they will have to actually win games no free goals , dodgy off side's ,or changing of the rules for us like liverpool get .[/QUOTE]
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sounds like the argument of a 10 year old. off the top of my head....liverpool lost in monaco...clear handball by saviola...so without getting into your stupid point theres one example where it didnt go all liverpools way.
everton are in the champs league cos the finished 4th. fair play. they overachieved. liverpool - the champions league winners (and winners of hearts worldwide, including i might add man u and everton fans) were asked to play from the first round - didnt complain and got on with the job. theres class above alone.
yeah and ive allways said they did really well and you dont win the comp with out deserving it , that will allways be the difference , everton fans can admit that but liverpool fans still wont give everton any credit even though they finished 4th and beat liverpools previous points total of 60 points to get there .Quote:
Originally Posted by 4tothefloor
they could win it so could utd so could chelsea so could liverpool again , i never said they will win it but its a possibility , who would have thought liverpool would haev won it no one not even liverpool fans
again you are a fool . liverpool played way more long balls than everton but dont let facts get in the way of your points !Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
everton fans dont hate the liverpool team just moron fans like you that dont have a clue what your on about , got there by default !we used the rules we finished in forth ,god your a ****
Anto, cool it off now, I'm warning you. Stick to the points and not the poster.Quote:
Originally Posted by anto1208
Mypost, you too, stop talking antagonistic rubbish. Everton qualified via the convential means and don't forget your side could not manage to finish above them. Also keep in mind they were unseeded and Villareal is as tough a draw an English side has ever gotten in CL qualifiers.
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Originally Posted by Poor Student
sorry he just gets my goat up .
Everton as good as out of Europe, Pool aren't, Moyesyside my swiss !!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by anto1208
Did Everton qualify for the CL qualifiers? In December, they were 2nd, then slipped to third, then to 4th. In the second half of the season, Everton got 20 points. They were walloped for 7 at Arsenal. They didn't qualify, but were instead handed 4th spot by the fact that other teams directly behind them didn't win enough games. Their players are poor, their "tactics" are primitive. They are the only English team that the rest of Europe want to play against this season. They are the cinderella side of the competition, and as it's the top table of club football, the Champions League should not have cinderella teams, and pub sides playing in it "just to be there". Neutrals want to watch the best teams in the competiton, and Everton are not one of those teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poor Student
We finished 4th the season before, and you know what we did? We sacked the boss. That's what we think of the value of finishing 4th!!
yea thats nearly a full season in the top 4 a position liverpool werent good enough to get into all season at all .
a cinderella story !! what do you call liverpool one of the weekest teams in the comp winning it , not since greece have we seen such an upset .
since ye value finishing 4th so lowly then how do ye feel about 5th !!
read your post again slips to 4th at least we got into a position that aloud us to slip down to fourth , ye barely got up into 5th place .how many millions did ye have to spend to compete with us ??
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Originally Posted by Aldini98
still go into the uefa cup . last time i checked that in europe too .
simple facts lads liverpool set the bar at 60 points to get 4th spot , so we went out and got 61 .
give credit where credit is due
in fairness Everton had a season beyond their expectations last year. The trick is to come close to repeating that. I cant see it happening.
On the other hand the Reds have consistantly been in the CL places over the
past 5 years which culminated in winning the thing. Add the Uefa cup to that
& we have a recent pedigree europe(not to mention the past) You talk about giving credit to Everton. How about recognising that Liverpool fully deserved
to be crowned champions of Europe by beating 'Juve, Chelsea & Milan possibly
the best 3 teams in Europe. Thats not luck, thats pedigree, thats Liverpool FC
YNWA!!!!!!
well if you read a few posts up you will see me admit that they did do well to win it and that you dont win the comp with out deserving it .Quote:
Originally Posted by papa-j
its true everton had a season beyond all expectations but so did liverpool , this time last year if you had said everton would be in 4th and liverpool would win the champs league you would have been laughed out of the place .
ill admit they deserved to beat milan , but not chelsea ( didnt score !!) nor juve ( 2 dodgy calls from the ref penalty and dissaloud a perfectly good goal ) , in the same way everton didnt deserve to beat utd but we did .the difference is you dont have everton fans coming out with rubbish that we are better than utd in the same way liverpool fans think they are the best in europe .
anto
stop wasting so much time on the net, defending and attacking teams that care little for you and go out and actually go see your local team, limerick.
thanking you in advance.
True, nobdy could have predicted that. We fully deserved to beat 'Juve, ok Chelsea was a close call but did either Juve or Chelsea deserve to beat Liverpool? Anyway I think the whole world bar Everton & a few manure die hards were delighted we put one over arrogant chelski & Moroniho. We were not the best squad on paper in Europe last year in fact we weren't even close but the fact is despite being written off time & time again we went out & got the results. We had the best team performances in Europe. Any realistic fan knows we are not the best team(on paper) but that made it all the sweeter.Quote:
Originally Posted by anto1208
you are the first liverpool fan ive met or spoken to that seems to actually understand the game , fair play to you if only there were more like you and less like my post.Quote:
Originally Posted by papa-j
i actually think i could have a footy conversation with you with out you loosing the head and saying " champions of europe " like most other have to resort to .
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Originally Posted by declan hide
dont thank me i wont be there after 15 years of supporting them going to all home and most away games , ive given up .
plus ive just shelled out 650 euro for my season ticket , so paying a tenner into see limerick isnt top of my to do list
Declan, no trolling in this forum. People have the right to support or not support who they like.Quote:
Originally Posted by declan hide
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Originally Posted by Poor Student
AS long as its not the SPL as that has been banned apparently , allthough i dont know what the slovacian premier league has ever done :D
I haven't been following this thread, but how is it still going? This is about last season and the new league is about to start? WTF? Close this thread :D
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Originally Posted by sligoman
no its not about last season its about the present state of football on merseyside , which is updated every day
well said, even for a bluenose.....joking. How do you fancy your chances v the scum 2moro? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by anto1208
it all depends on the formation they go with , this one up front nonsence is nt working it hasnt since xmas , i dont know why moyes cant see this .Quote:
Originally Posted by papa-j
its a negative tactic right from kick off , it puts our defence under way too much presure ,whcih is fine against west brom and the likes but not against utd , who will punich you if given enough chances to do so .
it was fine when bent was our only striker and weir and stubbs lacked pace a holding midfielder was needed but now with yobo and klodrop in defence we have two very fast very good and confident defenders so the holding midfielder isnt needed ,
with beattie we have a striker with one of the best shots in the prem , but is wasted trying to take down balls and lay off passes , while bent has a fantastic first touch and short passing game but couldnt finish his dinner . so it seems silly not to play the two of them and between them make up at least one decent striker .
I agree, I think this thread should be closed now as it is a thread about last season. We're still 'discussing' the CL win and Everton finishing 4th, even though the new season kicks-off tomorrow! A very enjoyable thread, but I think it's run its course.
Go on anto, make another bold prediction in a new thread so we can continue the slagging for this season. Fancy yerselves finishing above Liverpool again? How about a title 'Has Moyseyside gone tits up'? ;) :D
I am getting the feeling this thread has gone stale and is just going round and round and descending into bickering. What's the general consensus? Should I close it?
Since when was there a time limit on when we can post on threads? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by 4tothefloor
LFC fans will still be discussing and gloating over our CL win for decades, closing a thread won't stop it. :D
This thread is not about a particular season, but about the fortunes of Liverpool and Everton. It's good natured banter, not a spiteful flame war.
Leave the thread open, as the posts will pick up in quality, when the English season re-commences, when we can discuss new events.
Not going to good so far anto:p. 2-0 to United!Quote:
Originally Posted by anto1208
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Originally Posted by sligoman
Everton lost 4-1 last season on the opening day so i wouldn't look too deep into that ;)
And it's over, 2-0 to United final score-:)
and liverpool finished off boro nicely ............... oh no wait they stumbled and stalled in the prem yet again !!Quote:
Originally Posted by sligoman
but hey look at the league table it the first time liverpool have been above everton in 11 months !! :D :D
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as for closing the thread no way , its going to get moving again now and as has been said none of it is bad natured , the new season is underway so the talk of last year will stop now .
if you cant talk about the home of football what can you talk about ?
chelsea playing fantasy football or to utd fans about businnes etics ?? :D
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but now with yobo and klodrop in defence we have two very fast very good and confident defenders QUOTE]
:D :D :D
yobo should be a playmaker after that pass to rooney. did he forget he left everton?
as for klodrop (surely not the correct spelling?) isnt he ouit for 6 weeks or so?
to define the difference between liverpool and everton.
everton fans claim 1-0 win over pool at goodison was best moment of last season.
liverpool fans know champs league win was our best moment.
same difference? :D
[QUOTE=declan hide]spelling SPELLING !!!! its not school you know what i ment just get on with it . :D KROLDRUP happy nowQuote:
Originally Posted by anto1208
last season talk is over stop living in the past , it a brand new season for ye to try and compete for 4th because being realistic thats as high as ye will get if ye have an incredible season which looking at ye on sat i dont think he will .
Liverpool were superb on saturday, and if we play like that in every away game and show the same determination and dominance in every game, we're laughing. We do need to sign Michael Owen though, plus I'd prefer to see Morientes sold instead of Baros. We are selling a forward who is established and suited to the English game and keeping one who has barely moved a limb since he signed for us. Doesn't make sense to me, but........in Rafa we trust :DQuote:
Originally Posted by anto1208
no way morientes is a fantastic striker , but id also keep baros if i was ye knowing ye're injury list ye will need him .
its great liverpool bussiness sell aplayer for 8 mill buy him back a year later for 12 , he doesnt have a clue what he is doing :rolleyes:
A bit like releasing Pistone, and then signing him again in panic cos you could get nobody else? ;) :pQuote:
Originally Posted by anto1208
I think Rafa's reluctance to consider buying Michael Owen is more proof, if it was needed, that he decided to sell the player last year, instead of the club's spin that Owen wanted to leave. For some reason, Rafa would prefer to take a chance by signing Peter Crouch, rather than re-sign a Liverpool legend with a proven goalscoring record. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by 4tothefloor
Baros has been here for nearly 5 years, Morientes for only 8 months, sometimes unavailable due to injury/ineligibility. Of course he's barely moved a limb. The bloke was unfit when he signed, and is still adapting to English football. Baros had similiar problems when he signed. Give Mori a chance before you rush to judgement, will ye? :rolleyes:Quote:
We are selling a forward who is established and suited to the English game and keeping one who has barely moved a limb since he signed for us.
wrong again ! he was offered a contract that moyes thought he was worth he chose to look for a better deal he didnt get it so he took the deal at everton , what you are saying might hold some water if he had re signed on august 31st not the start of july with 2 months to keep looking !Quote:
Originally Posted by 4tothefloor
serious question are ye starting to wonder about rafa last summer he had cisse owen and baros , now there is talks of him selling cisse and baros to buy owen !! any one else think thats a bit weird .
he reminds me of houlier he played heskey on the right wing , cisse is been pushed out there now . houl bought a load of french players rafa is buying a spanish armada . they are good players but so was houliers frst buys (risse haman etc)
i can see a patern developing