Well we've unquestionably gotten better and signed better players. The rest is slow progress.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
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Well we've unquestionably gotten better and signed better players. The rest is slow progress.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
Glad my hangovers don't last that long.Quote:
Originally Posted by desaintsno.12
Unquestionably?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
2012 League 4th, 9 points off the top
2014 League 4th, currently 14 points off the top
Kenny made some awful signings, but so did Croly. Still plenty of dross in that squad
It was a lot worse in 2012. Might have ended up closer to the top, but the team at the top weren't as dominant as the two are this year. The final few weeks of Croly's reign were as bad as I've seen Rovers in a few years, but Kenny only barely got above that level.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
You somehow managed to have a crack at Bohs in your comments on yesterdays semis!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by wonder88
.Bohs had averages of 2,366 when we were winning the league under PF.Would have him back in a heartbeat, since you ask.
I'm not suggesting Kenny or Croly weren't poor appointments. I'm arguing you're no better off now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Nutsy won't keep more than 5/6 of the current squad if he has his way
Well next season will be a lot different and the bulk of the squad will probably be asked to move on, but the current squad on their day are capable of getting results the 2012 team just never would have got. Croly even had his moments where the team looked well coached.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Is the replay on TV?
No chance.
Also Kenny had a squad that was well past their sell by date.
You do gotta love Rovers revisionist policy of the 2012 era. No doubt if Kenny had of been given free reign and 100 % backing from the board and rovers fans it would of been a different story.
But one teams loss is another's gain and we got a man who built us a team who over the next two years would be title challengers for the first time in a generation and bring a whole different style of football to Oriel park. I don't want to disrespect the McLaughlin, O'Connor era but I don't think they were as technically better but that's a discussion for another evening.
Hope the man stays here for life because to quote "Wayne's world, we're not worthy"
I suspect Kenny signed Winn on advice from the same source that recommended Pat Hoban.
Not having a go at Bohs at all, but I would be surprised if most of the fans there do not regret letting PF go to Dundee Utd especially when some compensation was available. Crowd numbers did fall under him at Dalymount and Dundee Utd did end up eventually with Jackie McNamara. Even Kerr mentioned yesterday that there wasn't much building from the back, and for me it was a poor game to watch but for others the result is all that matters.
Is it true that Ronan Finn is going to Pats.
By the way it was a terrible decision to sack Stephen Kenny. It was my opinion at the time and events since only confirm that. If the B team is abolished at the behest of Fenlon, there will be more question marks about the board at Tallaght.
I'm sure if he'd taken over a club who'd just barely avoided relegation there would have been a bit less of an expectation on him, but by whatever metric he did a bad job, signed badly, played terrible football with no ambition whatsoever, made baffling selections and never earned the respect of his own players. That doesn't mean he's a bad coach - he's clearly a very good one - but it just didn't work for him, and it wasn't because the club didn't back him enough. They gave him a very generous long-term contract, money to spend on players and the chance of working with the bulk of a double league-winning. He just didn't perform.Quote:
Originally Posted by jinxy lilywhite
There's a rumour going around that we've offered Finn, McCabe and Kilduff contracts.Quote:
Originally Posted by wonder88
Also a rumour going around that Rovers have offered Bermo, Forrester, Fahey and Fagan contracts, so we'll see what happens in the off season.
Finn is going to England for trials as soon as his contract ends. If that doesn't work out, I'm guessing he'll have a look at what's happening here. I'd expect Fagan to do the same. Kilduff has seemingly signed something with Pats, though it might not be final, but either way he won't be offered a new deal in Tallaght. The rumours of Bermo being offered a contract seem like they might be true but I can't see it happening. Forrester hates Rovers, but then again so have plenty of wasters and it didn't stop them signing.Quote:
Originally Posted by PartySaint
Forrester would be the one I'd have most doubt about going because as you said he hates Rovers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Fagan is starting college again over here so is staying in Ireland.
Fair play to Fagan if true. From what I heard, there was genuine interest from England and further afield, but if he's made his decision, good luck to him.
Woundn't Rovers or anyone else have to pay compensation for Forrester given his age? Could be quite expensive.
There'd be a tribunal fee unless the clubs could agree something, but like in the Horgan case this year if you think the player is worth it you'll take a one-off hit.
I guess so. If they can afford it then why not? Still seems an unlikely one though.
That wasn't the perceived wisdom before the season started. Paying a fee for Horgan was judged to be lunacy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
More history rewritten.
Do you think I keep some sort of League of Ireland annal, tinged by my Shamrock Rovers bias, WH? I have my own opinion on things. I never once said paying for Horgan was a bad deal for Dundalk so I'd thank you to stop including me in your rewritten history meme, which seems to be based on Shamrock Rovers fans on other message boards, considering only about three of us post here.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
My point was not directed at you or Rovers fans, for that matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
You could have achieved that by not quoting me and referencing a previous instance where you alleged Rovers fans have rewritten history.
Struck me on Sunday that with a lovely wee ground and with a team that plays very attractive football ST Pats have got what most of us would love. Richmond Park should be sold out these days.
But no...still not enough for the strange Irish public. Whadda you do..
Where is this 'lovely wee ground' you speak of? Pray tell!Quote:
Originally Posted by cheifo
I like Richmond Park...but then again I was reared in Finn Park.Quote:
Originally Posted by seand
Not much wrong with Richmond really. Harps fans would love a ground like that. It's not in complete disrepair and is relatively well looked after unlike a lot of grounds in the country. The shedside could do with a bit of a facelift, but as far as away areas go, it's most certainly not the worst in the league.
The playing surface in Richmond is lovely and stands aren't the worst in the league. They take a lot better care of it than Shels or Bohs do their grounds.
Bucko is mad about keeping the pitch in a good way, the Patrons put money up last year to get one of those big heating systems for the pitch to keep it in good shape after games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Any chance there would be any radio links for the game? I know derry do one for home league games
Richmond is fine. The playing surface is usually good, though can be a little slippery at times. The stand has a good viewing position. The away shed isn't great but is only used a few times during the year. I would prefer if the pitch wasn't so narrow though.
Luckily our main man John Delaney is on the case, working with the various stakeholders.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
Drive105 cover the games: http://live.drive105.co.uk/Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulsey
Cheers man, appreciate itQuote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
They spelled Drivefor25 wrong.
McGuiness sent off for Rovers, Barry Murphy saves the resulting penalty from Patterson.
Barry Murphy has been in top form in the cup!!! Only for him we would have been out of sight in the replay in oriel
Made a super early save against Longford but for which the game could have been an awful lot different. Also made a couple of top saves in the home game with Dundalk. The guy has been man of the match in half our matches this season, and he should have been given it on Sunday too.Quote:
Originally Posted by shep
Murphy finally beaten, Michael Duffy. Rovers just not good enough.