Wasn't McCarthy in and around the 12m mark??Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
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Wasn't McCarthy in and around the 12m mark??Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
McCarthy signed for £13m, the second most expensive signing in Everton's history, up until then at least.
Yes but these days they're reichmarks :)Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
According to Paul Tomkins Transfer Price Index (TPI)
Duff 17m in 2003, that was worth 37m in 2012 and 49m 2013
Robbie 13m in 2000, that was worth 27m in 2012 and 37m in 2013
McCarthy 12m in 2013
Roy Keane's transfer <4m in 1993, probably would be worth about 25m in 2003 and 80m in 2013
Bargain.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
EDIT: Wasn't it 3.75m for him? That number has stuck in my head forever.
It says Roy Keane would be worth 32.3m in todays money. Where did you get 80m?Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
'It' says that, I say different, that's where the 'probably' comes in to play, I being the brain behind the probable factor.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
'It' has no effective way to properly adjust transfer fees from the early/mid 1990's.
I adjust Roy's transfer fee of 3.75m, to a list of transfers in 2003 when Duff was transferred for 17m and I calculate Roy's 3.75. would be worth 25m in 2003
and if it was worth 25m in 2003 then it was worth 80m in 2013. according to the transfer index.
Sorry, but none of that made any sense. Iceland does strange things to people.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Sorry, but I trust the GTPI more than the regular TPI.
The Independent is reporting Brady to Norwich has been completed, nothing official from either club.
You can not make sense of anything , and you think that's down to me :)Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Its probably more a case that you are not as smart as you might think you are.
When I wrote in a separate line in my post "Roy Keane's transfer <4m in 1993, probably would be worth about 25m in 2003 and 80m in 2013",
I made that calculation, I was not quoting values from the transfer index. That transfer index is not the gospel, there are flaws in it.
And is there anybody on this board who would disagree with my adjustment of the value of Roy's record transfer in 1993 of 3.75m, to 25m in 2003, to 80m in 2013? Possibly it's on the conservative side.
Do you disagree with that particular adjustment of values?
I do. The world record fee at the time was £13m. That makes Roy's fee a little more than 1/4 of the largest fee paid, which would be ~25m of today's money. Now that's obviously not right either as it was a British record fee, so you'd have to put the fee somewhere in between £25m and £80m. I'd say you could probably adjust it a bit above the midpoint, so let's say £55-60m.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Seriously, who cares.
Everyone except you?Quote:
Originally Posted by MeathDrog
A player fo Roy Keane's quality based on some of the práisce out there would be "worth" about 60m without hesitation. And I'm sure every bloody club would bite your hand off for him at that price.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Lads if Vidal is going for around the €30 mark, and what did Madrid spend on Illaramendi, Keane would fetch 50m, no problems. 50m STG, so equate that to what you like in Euros. I think 80m Euros is a bit exaggerated, but certainly he'd fetch a considerable fee. God knows what Zidane in his prime nowadays would fetch. In retrospect, the fee United got for Ronaldo is a BARGAINQuote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
Roy Keane would be serving a lot of suspensions in todays game. Probably lower his value quite a bit.
Probably, but that's the Roy Keane who captained Manchester United during the most successful period in their history, not the Roy Keane who who was merely a stand out player in a relegated Nottingham Forest side.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
John Fallon has reported that the deal has been completed, but Fallon has a history of talking out of more than one orifice.
http://www.edp24.co.uk/sport/norwich...ture_1_4172522
I'm skeptical the move will happen TBH.Quote:
The Irish Independent stated Brady has penned a three-year deal, with the option of a further year, to become Alex Neil’s third summer signing after Youssouf Mulumbu and a permanent deal for Graham Dorrans.
City officials have reacted to those fresh reports by insisting there are no plans to unveil any new players ahead of the Hammers’ visit with Brady’s protracted summer transfer still to be finally rubber-stamped.
deal confirmed - Robbie Brady has signed for Norwich City on a three year deal: http://www.canaries.co.uk/news/artic...y-2579067.aspxQuote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
Well I wasn't talking about what he was worth, just what the original fee would translate to.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
Confirmed by Norwich: http://www.canaries.co.uk/news/artic...y-2579067.aspx
I was trying reverse psychology to try and push the move through.
Roy Keane has never been merely anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
I know. I wasn't disputing that. I was merely saying that at 60m you would have a bargain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Now Charlie, be fair. That world record fee was for Gigi Lentini, if I'm correct. And there is serious question marks over Italian transfer fees, between Italian clubs from the late 80's up to the mid-noughties, something that hasn't been investigated properly. In some cases I would question if fees were paid at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Out of interest what was the next highest fee to Lentini?
Vialli £12m.... Samp to Juve the same year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingdom
DThat Denilson transfer has always perplexed me. I mean... Betis ffs!Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
That's a good move for Brady. Norwich are very well ran club and like to play good football. Decent fan base too. But I still think they might go down.:( Even if they do, they'd be in a good position both on and off the pitch to bounce straight back.
As for Roy Keane. If he was playing today he'd worth around £50m-£60m. That's about the going rate for world class defensive midfielder now days.
Do you fine chaps think his cousin Tom is really going to go through with suing the NFL?
more like Robbie sues the FAI
Played the full ninety minutes of Norwich's preseason win over Brentford yesterday... at left back.
Roy in no way could be described as a defensive midfielder at that time. He was an outstanding midfielder, a leader and future captain.Quote:
Originally Posted by GypsyBlackCat
Relative to other transfers while he was a top player for Man U, I stand by my opinion that his fee, at any given time, would have topped them all. Eg, in 2002 the record was 30m for Rio Ferdinand and today that transfer fee would be an absolute whopper, I'd say about 90m
It's not a case of what the transfer price would be if man U were to buy Keane today from a relegated club, facing competition from one other club, it's a question of adjusting the value of his 1993 record transfer to today's values and there is a method in place to do that, to replace opinion and guesswork.
And then there is a huge difference between 2013 transfers prices and 2015 prices, the prices have escalated higher that our perceptions.
Barely have Liverpool sold one valuable player and people say 'good bit of business', but then they look around and see what they can buy and it doesn't match up, once all the slices are taken off the Sterling transfer they just have enough to buy a decent player.
If Roy was available today, facing the prime years of his career, Man U would not just be competing with Blackburn, but also the top clubs in Europe.
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Originally Posted by DeLorean
Highlights here, I originally posted them in the Hoolahan thread but should be here too nice
run by brady at 2.37
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ihhotMxYYM
Possibly, but very few top clubs in Europe buy from relegated sides in EnglandQuote:
Originally Posted by geysir
First league goal for Norwich puts them ahead against West Ham. Olsson is back so he's playing left wing, I think.
https://streamable.com/anxf
Serious lack of action in this thread...
A good pass from Noble:)
Call him up Marty!Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
I wondered what was happening there, seems he has been moved to the wing from left-back, still unusual to see
him in the centre but I guess you might expect the winger to be there in that situation.
Took his goal well and good anticipation of the pass, class goal all round, who need grealish when you have player like brady?
A friend of mine was at Anfield yesterday and said Grealish was probably the best player on the pitch and couldn't believe he was taken off. September is nearly over by the way!!
Interesting about Brady going back to midfield, it never occurred to me that he was only playing left back due to an absentee. I think that's good really in the long run. I reckon we should do the same.
Brady did try to return the favour with a very wayward pass that West Ham probably should have scored from.
It takes time to develop the instants of a defender even though he wasn't playing in defence yesterday. Its a pity we don't have a quality left full back as Robbie would be very useful further up field for us.
I'd be happy out with Wilson going back there really.
If Greg Cunningham can stay fit and keeps getting regular football, I think he could be a good option at LB.